Are military attacks on civilians sometimes justified?

petros

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Do terrorists make mistakes when they kill? Do they blow up the wrong bus then go on TV and apologize and make reparations?
 

JLM

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How different is it? Is it different from thinking something is a valid target but it turning out to be a hospital? How much do intentions factor into terror bombings? If you don't bomb a place to terrorize civilians, but you constantly ignore civilian casualties and civilians live in terror does it make a difference?

Should ALL action in war be avoided where there is the slightest chance of civilian casualty?
 

WLDB

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Easy to say that when there is little to no chance of another countries military attacking civilians here. It also hasnt happened in quite a long time. If its ok for one group to kill another's civilians then why would it be wrong for it to go the other way?

So I go with no.

Funny how Europe says 'never justified', yet, if not for attacks on civilians, how would WW2 have turned out?

Not nearly as bloody if both sides had not attacked civilians.

Do terrorists make mistakes when they kill? Do they blow up the wrong bus then go on TV and apologize and make reparations?

They wouldnt be terrorists if they did that. Terror is right in their name. We arent supposed to be like them or use their tactics.

I fully agree, but you got to fight back when attacked! :)

Sure, attack the one who attacked you - not the civilians who had nothing to do with it.
 

Cliffy

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I fully agree, but you got to fight back when attacked! :)
Nobody has attacked us and we are over there bombing the crap out of their countries and killing their women and children. Nobody around here seems to put two and two together and come up with why there are so called terrorists over there.
 

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Nobody has attacked us and we are over there bombing the crap out of their countries and killing their women and children. Nobody around here seems to put two and two together and come up with why there are so called terrorists over there.

I don't think the terrorists are "so called", Cliffy and Canadians definitely didn't create them. That Middle East is just plain f**king Nuts. :) :)
 

Cliffy

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I don't think the terrorists are "so called", Cliffy and Canadians definitely didn't create them. That Middle East is just plain f**king Nuts. :) :)
We are helping to create them by bombing Syria, Libya and Afghanistan. We were once a peace keeping nation, now we are one of the war mongers thanks to Harper. Trudeau is caught in a quagmire of Harper's making and even if he wanted to, he cannot back out now. NATO will not let him.
 

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Nobody has attacked us and we are over there bombing the crap out of their countries and killing their women and children. Nobody around here seems to put two and two together and come up with why there are so called terrorists over there.

There have been terrorist attacks. It may have been chicken and egg but we are being attacked.
 

lone wolf

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I don't think the terrorists are "so called", Cliffy and Canadians definitely didn't create them. That Middle East is just plain f**king Nuts. :) :)

Not any more are they "so called". They got the label because it fools the easily fooled to whip them into frenzy. More properly - and before fanatics hijacked cause - they would have been fighting for survival in the mess created by foreign policies more akin to date rape or in the despondency created when they were no longer of use in someone else's war. One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. It's really too bad the world isn't all black and white like the simple version says
 

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We are helping to create them by bombing Syria, Libya and Afghanistan. We were once a peace keeping nation, now we are one of the war mongers thanks to Harper. Trudeau is caught in a quagmire of Harper's making and even if he wanted to, he cannot back out now. NATO will not let him.

Afghanistan was Chretien/Martin if you are keeping score.
 

MHz

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It took 6 months before the first targeting mistake made by Canadian jets, this last incident got out a lot faster. How many incidents by other 'partners' aren't reported at all of 'mislabeled' like ES's many references are?

WWII was the first war when it was military against civilians, before then it was soldier vs soldier.