Majority of Canadians opposed...........

[JLM]

There are also legitimate concerns regarding housing, feeding, medical care, interpreters and language training for the refugees.

I was rather taken aback by Crispy Clarke's NIMBY pronouncement on the refugees.


'A much warmer welcome' eh Crispy...........bit of a slap in the face to the larger centers don't you think?

I think there's some merit in Christy Clark's suggestions. If we are to increase our population I think it should be done in areas with more room to expand. The infrastructure in areas like the lower mainland is overloaded to the extreme. The area along Highway 16 is also struggling.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Unless you've got a magic wand (which I wouldn't put past you) the only way of stopping the conflict is to kill the other side or surrender to it.

Kinda makes a body wonder how Teddy Roosevelt got a Nobel Peace Prize for negotiating an end to the Russo-Japanese War.

 

[DaSleeper]

I propose Vancouver Island, nice climate, easier to monitor the comings and goings, and just let the leftoids there put there money where their mouth is....☻

 

[darkbeaver]

They weren't perceived as a threat, it was "soft anti-Semitism". They had the right to live free from ethnic persecution, just not over here. There was another reason though, the numbers. It's the same reason for the objections to the current situation. It's not that everyone is necessarily objecting to taking in extra refugees, it's the number within the time frame that's disturbing.
There are legitimate concerns they won't be properly vetted.

Soft anti-semitism? What about the medium or the hard anti-semitism or the super soft or extra hard or the sugar free as opposed to the regular or extra light maybe try the vitamine enriched or the calorie reduced or how about the iron fortified or a six pack as opposed to a flat of anti-semitism. If as you say it was soft anti-semitism then it plainly was an action in opposition to a percieved threat. A number x a time frame = a rate. Thankyou for saying nothing so elequently.

 

[Jinentonix]

Soft anti-semitism? What about the medium or the hard anti-semitism or the super soft or extra hard or the sugar free as opposed to the regular or extra light maybe try the vitamine enriched or the calorie reduced or how about the iron fortified or a six pack as opposed to a flat of anti-semitism. If as you say it was soft anti-semitism then it plainly was an action in opposition to a percieved threat. A number x a time frame = a rate. Thankyou for saying nothing so elequently.

No, it was not in opposition to a perceived threat. Nice strawman though.

 

[darkbeaver]

My mistake, I'v obviously not correctly interpreted the word anti.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I find the title of the thread quite accurate.

 

[JLM]

Trudeau might be guilty of a lot of stuff but I don't think that's one of them!

I find the title of the thread quite accurate.

Safe too.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Well, it's idiotic anyway you want to look at it. What's the difference if it's Dec. 31 or Jan. 15? The ONLY criteria is it has to be done right, so there's no repercussions later.



So much for that..............Justin wants to be nice to them and get along with them. When weather improves he'll probably invite them over for a barbeque.

I hope he served bbq pork. It can be quite tasty.

 

[darkbeaver]

Trudeau might be guilty of a lot of stuff but I don't think that's one of them!
Safe too.

Why have you eliminated guilt by association?

I hope he served bbq pork. It can be quite tasty.

I don't trust anyone who can't be converted by maple syrup glazed chops. Only a fanatic could resist, perhaps this would be the best determinant in any refugee hearings.

 

[MHz]

So far the will of the 'opposers' is to commit acts of terror against any Muslim because ISIS is supposed to be Muslims and Muslims alone. Great ****ing example of how bright some Canadians really are.

JT made this quota known before he was elected so the best thing is to show that the promises are going to happen. People love Putin because when he says something is going to happen it does, and in a few days rather than weeks or months. France sending ships to Syria was already in the works or it would have taken months to plan the operation. (ie the UK going to free the Falklands months after the actual invasion)

If we can't handle 25K people then if a natural disaster ever came that needed a city to be evacuated then the people in need of help would be refused it by other parts of Canada. So much for our (self) ranking in the world as being 'helpful to a fault'.

I hope he served bbq pork. It can be quite tasty.

Put it beside buffalo and it is a poor 2nd. They should patrol the city landfills, end a lot of nasty bugs and insects.

 

[JLM]

Why have you eliminated guilt by association?

I haven't intentionally- I think the trick is to sort out the necessary bombings from the elective bombings.

 

[petros]

Obviously, this possibly could be the mark that Trudeau leaves in Canadian history. He needs to not be afraid of backing down and closing the door on the refugees, or at least slow down the process. This is not the same situation as in 1939 when both the Canadians and the Americans turned away a boatload of Jews, none of whom were a threat to either country.

Anarchists.

Hey, hey, daloy politsey!

 

[JLM]

Anarchists.

Hey, hey, daloy politsey!

Is that Ukrainian talk or did something get into your corn flakes this morning, Pete?

 

[petros]

Yiddish.

"Down with the Police".

 

[Mowich]

I think there's some merit in Christy Clark's suggestions. If we are to increase our population I think it should be done in areas with more room to expand. The infrastructure in areas like the lower mainland is overloaded to the extreme. The area along Highway 16 is also struggling.

Not that I disagree with you JLM but the fact is that most smaller communities do not have the resources needed to care for the refugees. Taking my own community as an example, we are already struggling with a lack of doctors and hospital facilities. Housing for those not able to provide for themselves is an ongoing problem that will only be exacerbated with an influx of more people. Transportation is another problem - unless you have vehicle you are walking. Local food banks are over extended especially with winter's arrival. It might have been more feasible had this been possible back in the summer but winter just makes everything that more difficult. That said, I am quite sure that the refugees would receive a warm welcome here and everything possible would be done to accommodate them but it will be no easy task to do so.

 

[davesmom]

Why do we need to increase our population? The whole damned world is overpopulated and that's why the planet is polluted. Increasing the population is in direct conflict with the frenzy to clean up the environment.

 

[JLM]

Not that I disagree with you JLM but the fact is that most smaller communities do not have the resources needed to care for the refugees. Taking my own community as an example, we are already struggling with a lack of doctors and hospital facilities.

One of the big problems we already have is getting professionals like doctors and nurses and technicians willing to settle in the smaller communities, so I think the refugees may be the key to alleviating that problem. We should be scrutinizing the huge list of refugees being considered and only select the ones that are able to provided services like doctor, nurses, etc. and who requirements are minimal, so they can also be contributing to the tax base very quickly. We certainly don't need to be importing more people to be burden on already over taxed services.

Why do we need to increase our population? The whole damned world is overpopulated and that's why the planet is polluted. Increasing the population is in direct conflict with the frenzy to clean up the environment.

I think the load on the environment has more to do on how we live than how many people we have. I don't know if there are any Amish trying to escape Syria, but if there are those are ones we should be snapping up. They leave a small "footprint" and are law abiding and live a healthy lifestyle.

 

[coldstream]

Actually the 25000 refugees Canada has committed to is a pittance compared to what Germany can expect. Up to 800 thousand to a million THIS year.. almost all unvetted, undocumented. This in a country that has high unemployment and no prospect of economically assimilating them.. not to mention culturally. To think this won't have the most profound social consequences, none good, is fantasy.

 

[Mowich]

One of the big problems we already have is getting professionals like doctors and nurses and technicians willing to settle in the smaller communities, so I think the refugees may be the key to alleviating that problem. We should be scrutinizing the huge list of refugees being considered and only select the ones that are able to provided services like doctor, nurses, etc. and who requirements are minimal, so they can also be contributing to the tax base very quickly. We certainly don't need to be importing more people to be burden on already over taxed services.

Unfortunately from what I have been reading a good portion of the refugees are young uneducated men or women with children. Neither of those groups are ready or prepared to start contributing.