When will Doomsday?

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Most people follow the doctrines of falsehood, and most people deem themselves correct while they in fact are misguided.

Quran 6:
{116. If you obey most of the [people] on earth [in their opinions], they will lead you astray far from God's way d [because] they only follow surmise e and only they insist on lying.}
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d Because they are associaters, and each sect have their doctrine of falsehood different from the other sect, while each one of them invites you to his religion and his creed.
e About their creeds, without referring and holding fast with any heavenly book.

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
 

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Most people follow the doctrines of falsehood, and most people deem themselves correct while they are misguided.

Quran 6:
{116. If you obey most of the [people] on earth [in their opinions], they will lead you astray far from God's way d [because] they only follow surmise e and only they insist on lying.}

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
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d Because they are associaters, and to each sect have their doctrine of falsehood different from the other sect, while each one of them invites you to his religion and his creed.
e About their creeds, without referring and holding fast with any heavenly book.

I surmise nothing, my God moves mountains and cleves the earth asunder at a whim. My God bathes the universe with pure light that reaches ever corner bar none. God is plasma pure intelligence solid spirit. You idolized the man, Mohammed. Idols of the mind are idols just the same.
 

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It's obvious then, there is no globally accepted definition of God. I of course have a direct connection to God, the one and only and nothing else but, and it has no equal and no associate, it has unending sons daughters and parents however.

You are happy with your misguidance. In fact, you delude yourself.
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I want here to stress that none has the authority to decide that this man or that will go to Hell or to Paradise.

The one who decides this is God, Who stated that the associater who associates or joins anyone or anything with Him will go to Hell forever, and no intercession will avail him, and none can intercede for his behalf or save him from God's punishment.

In this respect the atheist is worse than the associater or idolater in deserving Hell; because He denies God's existence, while the idolater does not deny God's existence, and he ascribes partners or assciates with God.

This meaning is very clear and outstanding in the Quran.
Like this aya 39: 19, which means:
{19. Is then a man, against whom is due ‘the word of punishment’ [in fire, equal to one to whom the reward of Paradise is deservedly due]? a

[Then God – be glorified – addressed His noble messenger, and said:]
And can you [Mohammed] rescue him who is in the Fire? b}
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a It means: Will you consider the associater who deserves the chastisement on account of his disbelief, like the believer to whom the reward is due on account of his belief and righteous work? But never they may be equal in that.
‘the word of punishment’ is His saying – be glorified – to Iblies or Satan, as in the Quran 38: 85, which means:
("I will certainly fill Hell with you [Iblies] and with those of [the Children of Adam] who follow you, all together.")

b The meaning: Do not insist exceedingly on seeking after them to convert to the Islam, and do not bother yourself with that, because you cannot guide the one who deserves the Fire because of his crimes, but it is God Who guides whomever deserves and is worthy of the guidance.

All interpretations that I mention are by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
 
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This is the extreme misguidance: out of pride, haughtiness and self-conceit.
So you are like some of the Quraish men who demanded to be given heavenly books personally.
Or those who said: Shall we follow a mortal like ourselves; so they vexed proud in fact.

And this is the extreme stubbornness that you do not read any book, except what you yourself insist and desire.
It is up to you to choose whatever you like, but you are responsible about your choice.

It's not out of pride or haughtiness or self-conceit. It's out of the knowledge that man is corrupt, man loves power and man will use whatever he can to get control of and maintain that power, especially the faith/beliefs of a people. That is why I denounce the so called holy books. Where there is some, admittedly, good in them, they've been used for too long as things of power and greed and go against all what God(s) is supposed to be about.

I don't follow any mortals. My belief - my faith - is that if God(s) wishes to speak with me, or send me a message or whatever, it will be done. I don't need a priest, a rabbi, an Imam or any other 'spiritual leader' to be between God(s) and I.

I don't believe that God(s) needs a book, either, to communicate with anyone. The message is always there, one just needs to listen.

Yes it is my choice, but people like you want to take away that choice and force YOUR belief, faith and interpretations of on the rest of us. That is where you are stepping in between God(s) and people.
 

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Of course it applies to all.

Then don't be surprised when you find out al hilly and mohamed were satans trusted seed.

And God – be glorified – said in the Quran 35: 3, which means:
(Is there any creator, apart from God, who provides for you out of the sky and the earth?)


This implies more than one, or multiple, creators. blasphemy.

h i.e. you will know who is the misguided and who is the guided: we or you.
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Most people follow the doctrines of falsehood, and most people deem themselves correct while they in fact are misguided.

Quran 6:
{116. If you obey most of the [people] on earth [in their opinions], they will lead you astray far from God's way d [because] they only follow surmise e and only they insist on lying.}
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d Because they are associaters, and each sect have their doctrine of falsehood different from the other sect, while each one of them invites you to his religion and his creed.
e About their creeds, without referring and holding fast with any heavenly book.

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.


You got that right, finally. Nice to see al hilly admitting he's wrong.
 

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I am not lying; it is as such. See the post #108
What I am trying is to let others know the true interpretation, the best interpretation of the Quran by one inspired by God, and by the man who did not graduate at any school , even not primary school, he only knew reading and writing Arabic, and in spite of this, he explained the ayat of the Quran, including the ayat that none could know their exact meaning.

So you are denying you said that you are making the Quran known to people so they now can go to God and be judged by their willingness to follow the book or not? That you are not setting people up to fall because you know damn well no one here will follow the Quran willingly especially with how you are trying to force them?

Again, you say it is a man's "best interpretation of the Quran by one inspired by God".

That doesn't mean it comes FROM God. After all, I can be inspired by Leonardo, repeat his works, but that won't make what I've done a Leonardo painting. Same goes for Shakespeare, Homer, etc.

It is this man's interpretation, it's not the real words.
 

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When will Doomsday?

[Some of the associaters asked about Doomsday: when it will take place; so God answered their question and said:]

{99: 1. When the earth shall be violently quaked!

2. And earth shall expel its burdensome [insufferable, wicked souls]! a

3. And man shall say b [on that day]: "What is the matter with it!?"

4. On that day will [people] tell [each other] the news:

5. That your Lord has inspired it [to quake. c]

6. On that day, will people come up, scattered abroad [in the space] d to be shown [the reward of] their works.

7. And he who does the weight of an atom of good shall see it [written in the book of his deeds.]

8. And he who does the weight of an atom of evil shall see it [written in the book of his deeds.]}
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a For the wicked is heavy and insufferable to people.

At that time, the guilty and wicked souls will go out of the earth and spread abroad in the space, because the earth will tear up following its final violent quaking, and its parts will disperse in the space to become as meteorites.
Here, God – be glorified – specified the ‘wicked’ by the going out of the earth at that time, because the ‘believers who are sinners’, will have fulfilled their punishment and will go up to heavens, when that long day will begin: that day whose duration will be one thousand of our years.

But the wicked will stay on earth, facing its horrors, suffering its bitterness and encountering its afflictions until one thousand years will pass, when the [final] earthquake will occur, then the event of the destruction and ruining will take place by the tearing up of the entire solar system.

b They will ask each other: “What is this quaking, unfamiliar to us, and what are these cosmic changes and disturbances?”

c And that this quake is among the events of Doomsday with which God threatened us in the Quran.
Then after the quake the earth will split up, cut up and disperse in the space and become meteorites.

d Like the flying locust, as in His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 54: 7, which means:
(They will come forth from graves, like locusts scattered abroad [in the space.])

All interpretations that I give is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly, may God's mercy be on his soul.
 
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You are happy with your misguidance. In fact, you delude yourself.
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I want here to stress that none has the authority to decide that this man or that will go to Hell or to Paradise.

The one who decides this is God, Who stated that the associater who associates or joins anyone or anything with Him will go to Hell forever, and no intercession will avail him, and none can intercede for his behalf or save him from God's punishment.

In this respect the atheist is worse than the associater or idolater in deserving Hell; because He denies God's existence, while the idolater does not deny God's existence, and he ascribes partners or assciates with God.

This meaning is very clear and outstanding in the Quran.
Like this aya 39: 19, which means:
{19. Is then a man, against whom is due ‘the word of punishment’ [in fire, equal to one to whom the reward of Paradise is deservedly due]? a

[Then God – be glorified – addressed His noble messenger, and said:]
And can you [Mohammed] rescue him who is in the Fire? b}
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a It means: Will you consider the associater who deserves the chastisement on account of his disbelief, like the believer to whom the reward is due on account of his belief and righteous work? But never they may be equal in that.
‘the word of punishment’ is His saying – be glorified – to Iblies or Satan, as in the Quran 38: 85, which means:
("I will certainly fill Hell with you [Iblies] and with those of [the Children of Adam] who follow you, all together.")

b The meaning: Do not insist exceedingly on seeking after them to convert to the Islam, and do not bother yourself with that, because you cannot guide the one who deserves the Fire because of his crimes, but it is God Who guides whomever deserves and is worthy of the guidance.

All interpretations that I mention are by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
might I remind the literalists in the crowd that when asked where his kingdom was, the man said, the kingdom is at hand. Making a way for the thought that maybe this paradise, or hell,,,may be a state of mind. Just a thought.
 

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Thought? You are speaking to someone incapable of coherent, rational thought.
 

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It's not out of pride or haughtiness or self-conceit. It's out of the knowledge that man is corrupt, man loves power and man will use whatever he can to get control of and maintain that power, especially the faith/beliefs of a people. That is why I denounce the so called holy books. Where there is some, admittedly, good in them, they've been used for too long as things of power and greed and go against all what God(s) is supposed to be about.

I don't follow any mortals. My belief - my faith - is that if God(s) wishes to speak with me, or send me a message or whatever, it will be done. I don't need a priest, a rabbi, an Imam or any other 'spiritual leader' to be between God(s) and I.

I don't believe that God(s) needs a book, either, to communicate with anyone. The message is always there, one just needs to listen.

Yes it is my choice, but people like you want to take away that choice and force YOUR belief, faith and interpretations of on the rest of us. That is where you are stepping in between God(s) and people.

This includes much mixing and confusion. You are not proud and not haughty but you do not believe any man may be sent by God; and that you require that God Himself tells you individually.

{6: 124. And when there comes to them [: the chief criminals of Mecca] a [scientific] miracle [: the Quran], c
they say:
"We will not believe [in the Quran nor in the messenger] until we are given [some objective miracles] like that God's messengers were given" [before
d];

[Say, Mohammed, to them:]
God knows best where to place His message. f}
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c Proving the truthfulness of Mohammed.
d Like the staff of Moses and the she-camel of Salih.
f i.e. God knows better about the advantage of His servants, and about the miracle to which they yield and in which they believe; and He knows best about the one who can carry out the task of the message and forbear its difficulties and troubles.

Therefore, if We had given you an objective miracle like the staff of Moses and the she-camel of Salih, you would have denied it and would have said: "This is only an obvious magic!" As had the people of Pharaoh denied before you when they saw the staff, and as had the people of Salih denied when they saw the she-camel and they hamstrung and slaughtered it, so We destroyed them according to their sins.

So likewise you will also deny when you see the miracle done, and so We have to destroy you, while in fact We don't want that, but We want the religion of Islam to prevail and dominate all religions.
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In addition, I have not forced you or anyone else; if you don't like it, don't read the post.
 

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Thought? You are speaking to someone incapable of coherent, rational thought.
Yes. Agreed but in a sense, I feel the person is a victim of his culture. Still yet assuming the position of willful ignorance. Maybe the libraries where this person lives only has literature that is compatible with this particular cult. Ya just can't know .
 

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You are happy with your misguidance. In fact, you delude yourself.
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I want here to stress that none has the authority to decide that this man or that will go to Hell or to Paradise.

The one who decides this is God, Who stated that the associater who associates or joins anyone or anything with Him will go to Hell forever, and no intercession will avail him, and none can intercede for his behalf or save him from God's punishment.

In this respect the atheist is worse than the associater or idolater in deserving Hell; because He denies God's existence, while the idolater does not deny God's existence, and he ascribes partners or assciates with God.

This meaning is very clear and outstanding in the Quran.

I am happy with the misguidance I encounter and the freewill to challenge delusion and I will go to hell if I want to know paradise. While we are in the material body no appreciation of paradise is possible without the appreciation of hell. If you don't look upon hell you cannot see paradise. You would save us from paradise. If you don't observe disease you can't observe the cure. You are already in the only hell there is. The better you learn that the closer you get to paradise. I am not an atheist.
 

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So you are denying you said that you are making the Quran known to people so they now can go to God and be judged by their willingness to follow the book or not? That you are not setting people up to fall because you know damn well no one here will follow the Quran willingly especially with how you are trying to force them?

The consequence will be so, while if they believe they will be saved.
Believe in God alone and in the Quran revealed from God to His messenger Mohammed.


Again, you say it is a man's "best interpretation of the Quran by one inspired by God".

That doesn't mean it comes FROM God. After all, I can be inspired by Leonardo, repeat his works, but that won't make what I've done a Leonardo painting. Same goes for Shakespeare, Homer, etc.

It is this man's interpretation, it's not the real words.

Inspired here means: revealed to him; an angel dictated to him and he wrote.
 

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About Doomsday:

Soora 101
The meaning:
(In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful)​
1. The Blast [of Doomsday]!

2. What a Blast a [it will be]!

3. And have you any idea what will such Blast [of Doomsday] be? b

[Then God – be glorified – described some of the terrible events which will occur on that day, and He said:]
4. The day when people will be like scattered moths c.

5. And the mountains will be like fluffy wool. d

6. Then, as for him whose judgment e will be elaborated,

7. He will have a life pleasant [to him.]

8. But as for him whose inquiry will be in summary f,

9. His abode will be the Pit [of Hell, into which he will fall.]

10. And have you any idea what it is?

11. [It is] the hot fire [of volcanoes.]
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a The Blast is one of the names of Doomsday.
It is the sound that will come out of the sun when it will crack up, so that the gases which will emerge from its core will knock on the cold crust that will form for the sun at the end of its life, so they will crack it.
When the gases will get out from that crack, they will cause a great sound or blast.
This is explained by His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 74: 8, which means:
(And when the 'Horn' is blown.)*
[*Lit. it is: when the ‘kettledrum’ is percussed.]
b This is for announcing its importance.
c The ‘moths’ are the insects which fly round about the lamp at night.
The meaning: On that day, souls will scatter in the space like the locust spread about in the sky.
Similar to this is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 54: 7, which means:
(They will come forth from graves like locusts scattered abroad [in the space.])
d The meaning: They will be like the sand, then the wind will disperse them.
This in fact has been previously explained.
e The Arabic word in the aya مَوَازِين are the laws according to which people are judged.
f i.e. he was not taken to account in the Barzakh world [or the Afterlife], but he was asked a question of rebuke and reproach.
 
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When will Doomsday what?

come on. It's not meant to make sense. That's the beauty of it. Non of it makes any sense and they spend their lives pretending it does so they can all belong to the same club.

They believe if they can get others to believe as they do, they MUST be right. Logic is not a trait the religious zealots have. They do have the ability to repeat the same nonsensical lies over and over and sometimes they catch themselves a fellow simpleton. but that's it.
 

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Soora 69​
(In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful)

1. [The Doomsday] 'that which will undoubtedly come true.' a

[Then God – be glorified – said:]
2. What is 'that which will come true'!? b

[Then God – be glorified – said:]
3. But do you know [when it will take place] 'that [Doomsday] which will come true'!? c

4. [The tribes of] Thamood and Aad denied the 'Stunning' [Doomsday.]

[Then God – be glorified – started to explain how He destroyed such deniers of the messengers (or apostles), and He said:]
5. As to Thamood d: they were terminated by the 'extremely severe and successive' [earthquake.]

6. And as to Aad e, they were destroyed by a roaring, violent hurricane.f

7. Which He unleashed against them for seven nights and eight days [consecutive] g; and which cut [the trees and palms] like [the cutting by the sword]; so that you would see the people laid [prostrate: dead on the ground], as if they were hollow stems of palm-trees. h

8. And can you see any of them left surviving!? [No, they all perished.]

9. Pharaoh, and before him the [nations who denied their apostles], and the overturned [cities of Lot's people; all of them] invented the false [doctrine.]

10. And they [: each of them] rebelled against the messenger of their Lord; so He overtook them with a surpassing overtaking [with punishment.]

11. When the waters surged [in the time of Noah], We bore you [: your ancestors and grandfathers] in the [ship] that sailed [upon the water.]

12. To make that [event] an admonition for you i, and that the attentive ear may receive it j.
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a Doomsday will inevitably take place according to a true promise of God.
The indication of this is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 10: 55, which means:
(Surely God's promise is true, but the most of them have no knowledge.)
In addition, God – be glorified – said also in the Quran 31: 33, which means:
(Surely the promise of God [about the judgment, the punishment and the reward] is true; so let not the Worldly life deceive you [with its ornamentation, and so divert you from remembering God])
b Such interrogative exclamation implies that it is extremely important and very serious.
c The indication of this is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 42: 17, which means:
(And what will make you [Mohammed] know that the 'Hour' [of their death] may be imminent.)
Moreover, this is in the Quran 33: 63, which means:
(You [Mohammed] do not know, [neither do they] perhaps the hour [of death of some of them] may be imminent.")
d People of Prophet Salih.
e The people of Prophet Hood.
f i.e. a cold wind having a roaring sound of its blowing and moving in the atmosphere. The wind was with extreme speed, exceeding bounds, which destroyed everything it passed by on account of its force and severe movement; which is called the hurricane.
g Till it destroyed and terminated them as a whole, so it was afterwards called ‘The coldness of the old woman’.
h Which has been explained in the interpretation of the Quran 54: 20.
i Which you should always remember and thank God for that He made you of the seed of the believers who embarked in the ship together with Noah, and so you have come to existence.
j i.e. the ears which hear and listen to the admonition, may hear and understand it.
 
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