When will Doomsday?
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... and some moronic Imam is still rattling away his Koranic verses on an open forum that would never be allowed by moronic Imams.
A parable: Whoever boasts and praises himself, in fact he dispraises himself.
I am not trying to let anyone of you convert, but only to establish the argument against you.
If I am wrong, then the wrong is for myself; and if I am rightly guided, this is due to the guidance of my Lord.
So if anyone listens and responds to my words, which is the truth guiding to God alone without associate, then it is for his own advantage; and if anyone does not receive it, it will be to his bad outcome.
Here is the part where your religion and all others causes the war, strife, terror and so on here on Earth.
"If you don't believe as we do, you're going to regret it!"
Do you realize that you aren't practicing what you preach? "I am not trying to let anyone of you convert" and yet if we don't we're "going to burn in hellfire".
If people believe in anything of God and such, they'll take that fear and follow whoever just to be assured they'll not suffer, regardless if they are wrong or not.
And in some religions - including yours - if you DON'T convert, then they will kill you.
So it's death vs. having to follow a religion one may not believe in.
You and your religion are lying.
Selfsame.....let me ask you a simple question.....If you have a very expensive computer system malfunctioning, do you trust a stranger on the street to fix it or do you have a professional do it.
If you have a bad plumbing leak, or an electrical problem you would do the same, not trust an unproven stranger
Yet you, a complete stranger, come on this forum and expect us to trust you with our soul?
No thank you sir
I'll put my trust in a local established firm........not on strangers on the internet for or against religion, any religion!!!
If you have a bad plumbing leak, or an electrical problem you would do the same, not trust an unproven stranger
Yet you, a complete stranger, come on this forum and expect us to trust you with our soul?
No thank you sir
I'll put my trust in a local established firm........not on strangers on the internet for or against religion, any religion!!!
A couple get into a car crash and they die. As they were kind and generous people, their spirits wander off and encounter a being who introduces itself as the usher of the universe and it was to take them to their utopia. On the way along the path they encounter lots of spirits of different philosophies and many, many wonderful things, but then there is a wall. The usher asks that they be quiet while they pass the wall. One asks the usher why, and the usher replies, "that is a two-room palace for the Christians and the Muslims, who each think there is no-one else here".
I only worship and invite others to worship God alone without associate and to make the devotion exclusive to Him alone without associate, son or equal.
If anyone responds, it will be to his own advantage; if not, it will be to his bad outcome.
So when man does not know about the Quran, he may be excused; but if he is acquainted, then he will not be excused before God.
Therefore, the thing which I am doing is very serious: that is to make others acquainted about the Quran, so they will have no excuse.
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So condemning others to your punishment is a loving thing to do? Have you ever heard the expression "blissfully unaware"? It's one of those gifts from a more merciful deity. Have you ever considered in denying people their rights to peace on Earth, you are condemning yourself to the purgatories of a hundred Gods not of your choosing?
Why did God send the messengers or apostles?
1- to explain to people about Himself and that He alone should be worshiped, and not to worship others besides Him (this is the First Commandment)
2- If they believe and obey the messengers they will live in peace and prosperity and happiness in this life of the World and in the Next Life.
3- To warn them that if they associate others with Him, they will be in misery, affliction and distress in the life of the World and in the Next Life they will be punished also.
Sending the apostles or messengers is for that, the disbelievers (who are in fact wrong-doers: and for this reason God does not guide them): so these disbelievers will not say: God if you had sent us any messenger, we would have believed.
Another reason is that people themselves demand a messenger should come to them to reform their conditions and improve their religion.
{Quran 28: 47. Had they not [argued with Us], when a calamity befalls them on account of [the wrong-doing, disbelief and hypocrisy] that their hands produce, [We should not have sent them any messenger.]
[But they would have argued with Us] and said: "Our Lord, why had You not sent us any messenger? [before the affliction and punishment], We should then have followed Your revelations and have become believers [in the message of your messenger!] a "}
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a And therefore We sent them Mohammed, in order that they might not have any argument after sending the messenger.
Similar to this aya in meaning, is another one in the Quran 20: 134, which means:
(Had We destroyed them with a punishment before it, they would have said: "Our Lord, if only You had sent to us a messenger, we should certainly have followed Your revelations before we were humbled and put to shame.)
The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
If God sent messengers, why does he not ensure his messengers don't cherry pick that which is best for them and their causes? There can only be one truth - but there are a lot of false prophets.
The duty of the messenger is only to convey his message, and he cannot guide whomever he likes, so the messenger will convey the message to everyone, and God knows who deserves the guidance and so He will guide him and will reward him; and He knows best the one who does not deserve the guidance and so He will misguide him, and will punish him.
The false prophets invite to the association with God, not to God exclusively and purely.
While the true prophet pertains to God alone and devotes himself to God alone and invites people to glorify God but not to glorify others with Him.
And by this way, we can distinguish the true from the false: because the true issues from God and invites to God alone without associate, as in the first of all the commandments.
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There is is, folks. Let these backwards barbarians dominate our lands and we will be returned back to the dark ages by people just like this. Fight for the lives of your children, lest they become slaves of this primitive belief system.
So basically you ARE trying to force your religion on people, by exposing them to your Quran, so they now - according to you - are acquainted with it, thus are "good" before God, unless they don't believe in which case they're sent to hell?
In other words, you are, to your religion, purposefully sending us all to hell.
Good Job, SS.
not smart enough to have an ulterior motive. Just someone else trying to get attention for themselves. Nothing more.
No, they are bad before God.
In other words, you will have no excuse that you were not aware or were oblivious about the Quran and its teachings.
In other words, if you do not believe, your punishment in the Next Life will be justified.
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The explanation: there is much debate and wrangling among people in the West and East, who is better the Eastern or the Western?
Some say: the Muslims are better, others say: no the West are better from humanity aspect and their kindness to animals, ..etc.
While to God, all of them are His servants; He created them all.
Moreover, the West has defeated the Muslim countries, and our countries have been occupied; so is the West better and therefore God made them victorious over Muslims?
As such the discussion and debate goes on..
Some said: Muslims are neglecting their duty of the 'exclusive devotion to God alone' and they fell in the enthusiasm about imams and sheikhs and they wrong each other, and therefore God - be glorified - set the West on them.
Others added: it is like the blind and the seer: Muslims have the Quran but they do not apply it. While the West may be excused because they are not aware about the Quran, and therefore they may be excused.
So now the true interpretation of the Quran will be displayed before all people whether Western or Eastern, and all of them are God's servants: and God will guide whomever He please and misguide whomever He will.
For this reason, most of Muslims now do not believe in this interpretation and prefer to stick to their traditions.
And whether they are Muslims or non-Muslims, they will be examined altogether by this way.
So if they believe it is OK and if not God Himself will deal with them.
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