We won't save refugees by destroying our own country

taxslave

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I listen to CBC radio a lot, which is where I got this information. Maybe you're right, the CBC is bigoted, and it's time to defund them. Or maybe they know what they're talking about.

You know satellite radio is available in remote areas now? You are no longer stuck with CBC.

I've noticed, that a lot of self defined atheists are so PC that they will bend over backwards to accommodate any religion (except Christians)...
They must be afraid of being called bigots, a term they are prone to use a lot .

Just give them time. They will soon learn that all religions are evil.
 

JLM

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I listen to CBC radio a lot, which is where I got this information. Maybe you're right, the CBC is bigoted, and it's time to defund them. Or maybe they know what they're talking about.

I don't know about them being bigoted (although there is an over abundance of all this transgender etc. stuff) but they are a reliable news source and mostly adhere to Canadian content.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I listen to CBC radio a lot, which is where I got this information.
Well, there's your problem.

Maybe you're right, the CBC is bigoted, and it's time to defund them.
Could you point out where I said the CBC is bigoted, or that it's time to defund them?

Not that I disagree, mind. Never thought much of State Radio.

Or maybe they know what they're talking about.
Linky-dinky?
 

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Is anyone here who is defending the importation of thousands more "refugees" going to take on any personal responsibility? Are you going to invite any into your home and care for them for however long? Pay for their education and health care? Feed them, ferry them around where they need to go? No? Then piss off. Don't expect everyone else to pony up so you can assuage your ridiculous feelings of White guilt
 

Twila

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Is anyone here who is defending the importation of thousands more "refugees" going to take on any personal responsibility? Are you going to invite any into your home and care for them for however long? Pay for their education and health care? Feed them, ferry them around where they need to go? No? Then piss off. Don't expect everyone else to pony up so you can assuage your ridiculous feelings of White guilt

The thing is that with the halt to the temporary foreign workers program (that was not so much about the "temporary" as about companies unwilling to pay more and foreign workers willing to make minimum wage) this might help those employers who are unwilling to pay their employees more.

For most North Americans an expectation of living with only immediate family in a large accommodation as possible is the norm. For the indo-canadian population they live with extended family as well as mortgage helpers units, they're able to afford on low wages what many others are unable.

Many of these refugees are use to living with their extended and would be willing to do the jobs Canadians don't want. If we can educate them on what is acceptable behavour here and let them know that any deviation will result in their being deported (and have that as a reality, not an empty threat) then this influx of refugees might work out.
 

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If we can educate them on what is acceptable behavour here and let them know that any deviation will result in their being deported (and have that as a reality, not an empty threat) then this influx of refugees might work out.

Gotta love them Libs! Tolerance but educate them on how to behave? If they get enough over here maybe they'll be doing the educating.
 

MHz

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If we can educate them on what is acceptable behavour here and let them know that any deviation will result in their being deported (and have that as a reality, not an empty threat) then this influx of refugees might work out.
Acceptable behavior seems to include the right to determine that we can interfere in any Nations we want while reserving a 'hand's off' policy when it comes to them having any say in what goes on in our Nation. (that would include the right to hold people on reservations for more than 100 years and no end in sight of that backward practice)
 

Twila

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Gotta love them Libs! Tolerance but educate them on how to behave? If they get enough over here maybe they'll be doing the educating.

There are 2 kinds of people; defeatists (who have a problem for every solution) and those who aren't.


 

Simple Man

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"Actually we can’t do what we like with this country. We inherited it from our parents and grandparents and we have a duty to hand it on to our children and grandchildren, preferably improved and certainly undamaged."

We inherited nothing. We are here as a result of our ancestors having displaced those in residence at the time. More and more we are part of a global community and hence we have a responsibility in it. What is right and what will be done in the refugee state of affairs are far far apart I would bet and is evidenced by other countries building walls to keep refugees out.. To arbitrarily close our doors to those in need is indicative of the worst part of human nature. That and ****ting where we eat.

If my neighbour comes banging on my door because something horrible happened to them at home, I will open my door.
 

davesmom

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"Actually we can’t do what we like with this country. We inherited it from our parents and grandparents and we have a duty to hand it on to our children and grandchildren, preferably improved and certainly undamaged."

We inherited nothing. We are here as a result of our ancestors having displaced those in residence at the time. More and more we are part of a global community and hence we have a responsibility in it. What is right and what will be done in the refugee state of affairs are far far apart I would bet and is evidenced by other countries building walls to keep refugees out.. To arbitrarily close our doors to those in need is indicative of the worst part of human nature. That and ****ting where we eat.

If my neighbour comes banging on my door because something horrible happened to them at home, I will open my door.


Our ancestors fought for this country and won it from the Indians and the French. The only thing wrong is that concessions have been made to the 'poor French losers' and none to the native Indians. I think that should be fixed before we start worrying about refugees and/or immigrants.
Canada is the youngest country in the world. Look what our ancestors have accomplished in that short time. They made this into a place where everybody the world over wants to be. That's what comes from working together toward a common goal of peace and prosperity.
Our ancestors were ethnically diverse; they didn't all like each other but they put their prejudices aside for the good of society. They didn't kill each other.
The refugees have a history of religious tribalism by which they kill opposing tribes and so keep the misery in their countries alive. Do you think they will be any different here? Of course not! Already they have demanded Sharia law, committed honor killings, petitioned to have our National Anthem written in their native language, sought exemption from our laws for religious reasons. (to name a few!)
If my neighbour was in trouble I would help him but my compassion doesn't extend to those who are NOT my neighbours. Let THEIR neighbors look after them.
 

Simple Man

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Our ancestors fought for this country and won it from the Indians and the French. The only thing wrong is that concessions have been made to the 'poor French losers' and none to the native Indians. I think that should be fixed before we start worrying about refugees and/or immigrants.
Canada is the youngest country in the world. Look what our ancestors have accomplished in that short time. They made this into a place where everybody the world over wants to be. That's what comes from working together toward a common goal of peace and prosperity.
Our ancestors were ethnically diverse; they didn't all like each other but they put their prejudices aside for the good of society. They didn't kill each other.
The refugees have a history of religious tribalism by which they kill opposing tribes and so keep the misery in their countries alive. Do you think they will be any different here? Of course not! Already they have demanded Sharia law, committed honor killings, petitioned to have our National Anthem written in their native language, sought exemption from our laws for religious reasons. (to name a few!)
If my neighbour was in trouble I would help him but my compassion doesn't extend to those who are NOT my neighbours. Let THEIR neighbors look after them.
Fought for and won it...lol...that's rich. What our ancestors have accomplished? You mean the genocide in the name of god and the queen? Or perhaps you're referring to our current status of rampant consumerism fueled by a combination of planned obsolescence / market share jockeying? Wait wait....you must mean our current agriculture practices wherein vast monocultures displace a healthy biodiversity inherent to small scale subsistence farming?

Fact is we turn valuable resources into garbage and crow about it like we have accomplished something.

You lump all the "refugees" into the same basket. The basket they are trying to escape. Here's the thing...over time it is more and more apparent that we are all neighbours. We are all together here on this rock hurtling through space quibbling over this rock is mine and that rock is yours; meanwhile we have lost sight that back in the day it was largely about being warm, dry, and fed. We have lost that sight and further given the supply of our daily needs over to a system that only cares about one thing...money.

To ignore the plight of others is to reinforce the most repugnant traits of our species.
 

taxslave

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"Actually we can’t do what we like with this country. We inherited it from our parents and grandparents and we have a duty to hand it on to our children and grandchildren, preferably improved and certainly undamaged."

We inherited nothing. We are here as a result of our ancestors having displaced those in residence at the time. More and more we are part of a global community and hence we have a responsibility in it. What is right and what will be done in the refugee state of affairs are far far apart I would bet and is evidenced by other countries building walls to keep refugees out.. To arbitrarily close our doors to those in need is indicative of the worst part of human nature. That and ****ting where we eat.

If my neighbour comes banging on my door because something horrible happened to them at home, I will open my door.

You just do that but don't expect the rest of us to pay for their keep. And the policing costs.

Fought for and won it...lol...that's rich. What our ancestors have accomplished? You mean the genocide in the name of god and the queen? Or perhaps you're referring to our current status of rampant consumerism fueled by a combination of planned obsolescence / market share jockeying? Wait wait....you must mean our current agriculture practices wherein vast monocultures displace a healthy biodiversity inherent to small scale subsistence farming?

Fact is we turn valuable resources into garbage and crow about it like we have accomplished something.

You lump all the "refugees" into the same basket. The basket they are trying to escape. Here's the thing...over time it is more and more apparent that we are all neighbours. We are all together here on this rock hurtling through space quibbling over this rock is mine and that rock is yours; meanwhile we have lost sight that back in the day it was largely about being warm, dry, and fed. We have lost that sight and further given the supply of our daily needs over to a system that only cares about one thing...money.

To ignore the plight of others is to reinforce the most repugnant traits of our species.

Maybe if they did a little bit to help themselves we would be more inclined to help. You need to read up on what is happening in Germany and England. These so called refugees are not coming to join us, they are coming to overthrow.
 

Simple Man

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You just do that but don't expect the rest of us to pay for their keep. And the policing costs.

I will...and so will you if that's what the government decrees.

Maybe if they did a little bit to help themselves we would be more inclined to help. You need to read up on what is happening in Germany and England. These so called refugees are not coming to join us, they are coming to overthrow.

Pretty alarmist. Imagine you and your family in their shoes. Where you stand depends on where you sit.
 

MHz

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These so called refugees are not coming to join us, they are coming to overthrow.
You saying you wouldn't fight them to save the country, we trained them so they know all our moves. It isn't like we can ever pay off the national debt anyway, the banks are happy with the interest on that debt as they get more every year.
 

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Our ancestors fought for this country and won it from the Indians and the French. The only thing wrong is that concessions have been made to the 'poor French losers' and none to the native Indians. I think that should be fixed before we start worrying about refugees and/or immigrants.
Canada is the youngest country in the world. Look what our ancestors have accomplished in that short time. They made this into a place where everybody the world over wants to be. That's what comes from working together toward a common goal of peace and prosperity.
Our ancestors were ethnically diverse; they didn't all like each other but they put their prejudices aside for the good of society. They didn't kill each other.
The refugees have a history of religious tribalism by which they kill opposing tribes and so keep the misery in their countries alive. Do you think they will be any different here? Of course not! Already they have demanded Sharia law, committed honor killings, petitioned to have our National Anthem written in their native language, sought exemption from our laws for religious reasons. (to name a few!)
If my neighbour was in trouble I would help him but my compassion doesn't extend to those who are NOT my neighbours. Let THEIR neighbors look after them.



Just received a call earlier this week from my girlfriend who lives in Germany. She said things are really bad there. All the gyms and community centres are filled with these so-called refugees and now the kids, like her son, are unable to participate in sports activities because of the influx. She said you don't dare go out in the evening because the newcomers don't travel in 2's or 3's but 30+ - all young men and they're raising hell. The police are worked off their feet! When given clothing, they pile it up and pour gas on it and toss matches. They have no appreciation for what they are given and demand things that, for the most part, aren't available.


As a previous poster stated, if someone is truly a refugee, they would be most appreciative of any effort made to make them comfortable and would be willing to do almost anything to earn a living. Refugees who refuse hospitality, destroy things and demand things aren't refugees.


Germans are REALLY pissed off at Markel and when others are closing their borders, Germany's remains open. My friend is really concerned about what is happening and says the new media can't even bother reporting what is really happening there.


I really wish we hadn't voted Trudeau in as he could be quite dangerous - oh no - let me put it this way - he could put US in a dangerous position - he'll make out fine - its the rest of us that will have to put up with all the BS.


JMHO
 

JLM

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Just received a call earlier this week from my girlfriend who lives in Germany. She said things are really bad there. All the gyms and community centres are filled with these so-called refugees and now the kids, like her son, are unable to participate in sports activities because of the influx. She said you don't dare go out in the evening because the newcomers don't travel in 2's or 3's but 30+ - all young men and they're raising hell. The police are worked off their feet! When given clothing, they pile it up and pour gas on it and toss matches. They have no appreciation for what they are given and demand things that, for the most part, aren't available.


As a previous poster stated, if someone is truly a refugee, they would be most appreciative of any effort made to make them comfortable and would be willing to do almost anything to earn a living. Refugees who refuse hospitality, destroy things and demand things aren't refugees.


Germans are REALLY pissed off at Markel and when others are closing their borders, Germany's remains open. My friend is really concerned about what is happening and says the new media can't even bother reporting what is really happening there.


I really wish we hadn't voted Trudeau in as he could be quite dangerous - oh no - let me put it this way - he could put US in a dangerous position - he'll make out fine - its the rest of us that will have to put up with all the BS.


JMHO

I can believe it. Maybe when it progresses from community centres and gyms to hospitals and prisons, someone will start getting the message! I think Ms. Merkel needs to have her head looked at! Are you listening Justin?