Under fire, Harper defines 'old stock Canadians'

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Debate fallout: Harper explains what he meant by 'old stock Canadians' | CTV News
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Karolyn Coorsh , CTVNews.ca
Published Friday, September 18, 2015 12:23PM EDT
Last Updated Friday, September 18, 2015 2:38PM EDT

A day after an at-times heated debate on the economy, Tom Mulcair and Justin Trudeau were criticizing Stephen Harper for his use of the phrase “old stock Canadians” during an exchange on refugee policy.

During a major party leaders’ debate on the economy Thursday night, Harper came under fire on social media when he responded to a suggestion that Conservative policy strips refugees of some health care benefits.

Harper defended his party saying, “We do not offer them a better health plan than the ordinary Canadian can receive. That’s something new and existing and old stock Canadians agree with.”

At a campaign appearance in Calgary Friday morning, a reporter asked Harper what he meant by the phrase.

After reiterating his party’s stance on health care for refugees, Harper said, “It’s supported by Canadians who are themselves immigrants, and also supported by the rest of us – by Canadians who have been the descendants of immigrants for one or more generations.”

The claws quickly came out on social media when Harper initially made the remark, with many expressing displeasure – and confusion -- with the Conservative leader’s apparent categorization of Canadian citizens.

On Friday, Justin Trudeau’s campaign team said the Liberal leader didn’t respond to the “old stock” remark during the debate because he didn’t hear it.

But at a rally in Montreal Friday afternoon, Trudeau said the comment showed that Harper was “eager to use the politics of division” during the election campaign.

"The fact is, Mr. Harper is yet again highlighting that he doesn’t believe that a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian,” Trudeau said.

Mulcair also weighed in on the matter at a campaign stop in Regina Friday afternoon, saying Harper used “very divisive” language.

“I think we’re all Canadians and I don’t like dividing people into categories like that,” Mulcair said.

Debate fallout: Harper explains what he meant by 'old stock Canadians' | CTV News
 

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Can't we combine all of Flossy's whining and hating Harpy posts into one thread? Maybe call it the "Flossy Loves to Hate Harpy" thread.
 

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It's cause he couldn't say Prickly Curmudgeons.

Debate fallout: Harper explains what he meant by 'old stock Canadians' | CTV News
CTV News | Top Stories - Breaking News - Top News Headlines

Karolyn Coorsh , CTVNews.ca
Published Friday, September 18, 2015 12:23PM EDT
Last Updated Friday, September 18, 2015 2:38PM EDT

A day after an at-times heated debate on the economy, Tom Mulcair and Justin Trudeau were criticizing Stephen Harper for his use of the phrase “old stock Canadians” during an exchange on refugee policy.

During a major party leaders’ debate on the economy Thursday night, Harper came under fire on social media when he responded to a suggestion that Conservative policy strips refugees of some health care benefits.

Harper defended his party saying, “We do not offer them a better health plan than the ordinary Canadian can receive. That’s something new and existing and old stock Canadians agree with.”

At a campaign appearance in Calgary Friday morning, a reporter asked Harper what he meant by the phrase.

After reiterating his party’s stance on health care for refugees, Harper said, “It’s supported by Canadians who are themselves immigrants, and also supported by the rest of us – by Canadians who have been the descendants of immigrants for one or more generations.”

The claws quickly came out on social media when Harper initially made the remark, with many expressing displeasure – and confusion -- with the Conservative leader’s apparent categorization of Canadian citizens.

On Friday, Justin Trudeau’s campaign team said the Liberal leader didn’t respond to the “old stock” remark during the debate because he didn’t hear it.

But at a rally in Montreal Friday afternoon, Trudeau said the comment showed that Harper was “eager to use the politics of division” during the election campaign.

"The fact is, Mr. Harper is yet again highlighting that he doesn’t believe that a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian,” Trudeau said.

Mulcair also weighed in on the matter at a campaign stop in Regina Friday afternoon, saying Harper used “very divisive” language.

“I think we’re all Canadians and I don’t like dividing people into categories like that,” Mulcair said.

Debate fallout: Harper explains what he meant by 'old stock Canadians' | CTV News

Take note of the present effort to restock Europe. Mr Harper could be thinking of dilution of Canadas old stock.
 

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Take note of the present effort to restock Europe. Mr Harper could be thinking of dilution of Canadas old stock.

Some people enjoy being called old.

It helps them justify their ****ty post-WW2 existence.
 

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Some people enjoy being called old.

It helps them justify their ****ty post-WW2 existence.

Post WW2 existance was better by far than say `1974 onward which is when we entered the dark age we don't enjoy now every day.
I have mixed feelings about being old but I can't remember not having mixed feelings maybe that's better than fixed feelings maybe not.
Muticulturalism is a dilution but dilution is neutral with respect to the essential human, we all suck air, we all obey the Solar gods. Have a pleasent evening.


Extra old stock, special reserve Canadians get privileges in Harpo's world.

Don't bet on it. Concentrate on the word stock and not the word old.
 

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The left is clutching at straws.

The right is clutching at their pearls.

Change is good, particularly when it comes to politics. Mostly of the basic fact that democracy means representation of the people, all the people, not just a select segment of the population for a generation. Balance and hope are somewhat restored, despite the cynicism.
 

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What's wrong with term Old Stock Canadian, I hear New Canadian more, you know diaper heads. ;)

From an objective view, descriptions of the population demographics should mean nothing, but, this is politics. Offences are offered from each side, if you accept them or not is a personal preference. I really did not think it was meant to offend, but rather to empower the conservative camp.

Ironically, the oldest stock Canadians are first nations people, i wonder if that's what he meant,lol.
 

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Post WW2 existance was better by far than say `1974 onward which is when we entered the dark age we don't enjoy now every day.
I have mixed feelings about being old but I can't remember not having mixed feelings maybe that's better than fixed feelings maybe not.
Muticulturalism is a dilution but dilution is neutral with respect to the essential human, we all suck air, we all obey the Solar gods. Have a pleasent evening.




Don't bet on it. Concentrate on the word stock and not the word old.

Seems about right. By 1974 the country was getting overrun by leftys.
 

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salters gonna salt.

nuthin' to refute eh flosshead? :lol:

Why would I refute your angry attempt to validate your opinion by looking to others' failures?

I endorse those tears wholeheartedly.


Unfortunately, Harper has gone the way of the politically correct Liberal.

Such a shame.

Still, it’s not clear whether his use of the term “old stock” included “Scarborough-born Sikh” and “Vancouver-raised Haida” in the same category as “white guy Alberta rancher.”

Regardless, Harper will probably never be use the term again, as evidenced by the fact he carefully avoided saying it at a Friday morning news conference.


Taking stock of ‘old stock Canadians’: Stephen Harper called a ‘racist’ after remark during debate


Love the National Post editing team.

Must've been the same crew from the Sun after they bought them out.