Harper's Tim Hortons Photo-Op Mocked After He Asks To Not 'Handle The Cash'

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Free Trade and investors who want as much fast profit as can be wrung from a product had nothing to do with it? Union rate is crazy enough. Executive salary and perks bleed the picture white. You can't blame it all on worker greed

No the bureaucrats own a lot of the blame too.
 

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If those idiots would take off the bureaucrat hat and think outside their box instead of making things look more complicated than they actually are just to justify their own existances, we might actually get out of this mess.

Those bureaucrats have no incentive to think outside the box. Who's going to punish them if they don't? The voters? Not likely.
 

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He threw all the debts against the provinces by cutting back transfer payments for healthcare and education. All those issues the leftards like to blame on Harris were primarily caused by Martin. Harris just passed on the cuts to the cities.

But leftards view him as a hero for that shellgame. Yet they point out other shell games with Harper.
Yup. Martin left the FEDERAL gov't in great shape. But in doing so he cut the provinces, seniors and students off at the knees. Some freakin hero.
 

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That tells me that you have no knowledge of Canadian exports like coal. They are sold in american dollars, yet salaries are paid in Canada dollars. A 75cent dollar works just fine at keeping profit margins nice and high.



they created the TSFA program.

They rewrote the criminal code on citizens arrest and self defense. No longer do you have to pass through half a dozen legal gates to claim that right.

Bill C-21, to keep a cap on bureaucratic costs, every new regulation must be matched with the removal of an equally costly bad regulation.

Senate reform, they offered to appoint any senators that the provinces elected

childcare, they recognized that a one size fits all solution just doesn't work for canadians.

they lowered the GST, no bull**** lies like the Creten dynasty

their scandal is not 49 million dollars like the liberal, or 2.5million like the NDP, nope it is a boring 90k that has already been payed back.

they reversed the Trust exemptions, so that there wasn't one kind of corp that paid taxes, and another that didn't pay taxes, they even alienated some of their own supporters to do this.

They created income splitting for seniors, so a below average household income coming from 1 really good pension didn't get taxed more than a household that has average income.

They lowered my tax bill by about $7200 per year, this is huge, it means that we have an education fund for our children.

instead of massive raping of the EI program, made legal by the Liberals, they froze EI rates in 2010, 2011 and 2012

a nephew of mine was part of a red seal apprenticeship program, there was a new funding program that helped him out bigtime.

farmers were given the ability to opt out of the Canadian wheatboard

You must not remember the tax cuts, eh Bluebyrd? Incredible, considering that they were cut over 150 times

how about the Human Trafficking National Action Plan, was that one of the 'rotten' things that you didn't like?

and the "Safe Streets & Communities Act". yep, that must have really pissed you off?
Pretty small list you posted. Now take a look at the really important and big ones he reneigned on. There isn't even a possibility to post them all they are so numerous.

Sorry but in my view he will go down as the worst Prime Minister ever!!.

Stephen Harpers Broken Promises
 

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Pretty small list you posted. Now take a look at the really important and big ones he reneigned on. There isn't even a possibility to post them all they are so numerous.

Sorry but in my view he will go down as the worst Prime Minister ever!!.

Stephen Harpers Broken Promises

I think that goes to Paul Martin. He could not even secure himself a majority.

But on technicalities you may also consider Kim Campbell or John Turner who were PMs for a day.
 

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I think that goes to Paul Martin. He could not even secure himself a majority.

But on technicalities you may also consider Kim Campbell or John Turner who were PMs for a day.
Yup Harper beat Cretien by a mile. Paul Martin was merely the finance minister during Cretien's term and may not have been able to secure himself a majority but he darn well left this country in better shape as finance minister than the Harper government has.

Hard to judge Campbell or Turner as their terms were so short. Not so for Harper, he had nine years to prove himself. Oh well voters will tell in the end......austerity or deep depression take your choice. Very hard to live up to obligations with nothing in the coffers to work with.

If we, as householders, managed our finances as the government does, just think of where we would be!! Governments should think as householders are told to do.......Do not spend more than you earn. Governments think the public pocket is bottomless. It isn't.

And CBC News is fair and balanced!
Better than wherever you are getting your information!!
 
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Paul Martin was merely the finance minister during Cretien's term and may not have been able to secure himself a majority but he darn well left this country in better shape as finance minister than the Harper government has.
No he didn't. He left the FEDERAL government in good shape, not the country and certainly screwed the provinces, seniors, and students over in doing so. You really should choose your heroes with a little bit more acumen.

"Screw the Red Book... Don't tell me what's in the Red Book. I wrote the goddamned thing. And I know that it's a lot of crap." - Paul Martin
 

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Yup Harper beat Cretien by a mile. Paul Martin was merely the finance minister during Cretien's term and may not have been able to secure himself a majority but he darn well left this country in better shape as finance minister than the Harper government has.

Hard to judge Campbell or Turner as their terms were so short. Not so for Harper, he had nine years to prove himself. Oh well voters will tell in the end......austerity or deep depression take your choice. Very hard to live up to obligations with nothing in the coffers to work with.

If we, as householders, managed our finances as the government does, just think of where we would be!! Governments should think as householders are told to do.......Do not spend more than you earn. Governments think the public pocket is bottomless. It isn't.

I think the only people really unhappy about Harper are the leftards. I have not agreed with everything he has done, but I think Harper should be given a lot of credit for keeping Canada in positive territory during the world economic downturn. Given that, I don't think a bit of deficit financing over a short period is that bad. And looking at the current alternatives, if you are looking at deficit fighting, there isn't any other choice.
 

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No he didn't. He left the FEDERAL government in good shape, not the country and certainly screwed the provinces, seniors, and students over in doing so. You really should choose your heroes with a little bit more acumen.

"Screw the Red Book... Don't tell me what's in the Red Book. I wrote the goddamned thing. And I know that it's a lot of crap." - Paul Martin
So how come Harper didn't balance everything out?? He had the resources to hand most of the money back. . Actually he took office with a surplus!! Instead we got a lot of expensive war toys and went to war. For which of course, now we must be on terrorist watch, instead of helping those in poor countries to gain control of their own fates.
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I think the only people really unhappy about Harper are the leftards. I have not agreed with everything he has done, but I think Harper should be given a lot of credit for keeping Canada in positive territory during the world economic downturn. Given that, I don't think a bit of deficit financing over a short period is that bad. And looking at the current alternatives, if you are looking at deficit fighting, there isn't any other choice.
Come on, Harper didn't do that!! He inherited the wherewithal from the previous Liberal government. He made things worse in the end. Now the world is pulling out of recession and Canada is just sinking into one.


Spending more than one takes in is the sure road to poverty and depression.
 

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So how come Harper didn't balance everything out?? He had the resources to hand most of the money back. . Actually he took office with a surplus!! Instead we got a lot of expensive war toys and went to war. For which of course, now we must be on terrorist watch, instead of helping those in poor countries to gain control of their own fates.
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Come on, Harper didn't do that!! He inherited the wherewithal from the previous Liberal government. He made things worse in the end. Now the world is pulling out of recession and Canada is just sinking into one.


Spending more than one takes in is the sure road to poverty and depression.

In your mind maybe but not in reality. The first couple of times when the economy was tanking Harper was saddled with a minority government. He had to make expensive concessions to retain power.Also Harper wan't really handed a surplus. Money was taken from EI to balance the books.Plus a lot of downloading of programs onto the provinces. SO at the end of the day, there being only one taxpayer there was no balancing of books or surpluses.
 

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He threw all the debts against the provinces by cutting back transfer payments for healthcare and education. All those issues the leftards like to blame on Harris were primarily caused by Martin. Harris just passed on the cuts to the cities.

But leftards view him as a hero for that shellgame. Yet they point out other shell games with Harper.

...and Conservative Party supporters laud Klein while ****ting on Martin and Chrétien when they both balanced their budgets by downloading onto lower levels of government. That's the difference between a real conservative like myself and the pretend conservatives that infest this site. I actually support smaller government and balanced budgets regardless what party creates them.
 

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I think the only people really unhappy about Harper are the leftards. I have not agreed with everything he has done, but I think Harper should be given a lot of credit for keeping Canada in positive territory during the world economic downturn. Given that, I don't think a bit of deficit financing over a short period is that bad. And looking at the current alternatives, if you are looking at deficit fighting, there isn't any other choice.
I agree.

So how come Harper didn't balance everything out?? He had the resources to hand most of the money back. . Actually he took office with a surplus!! Instead we got a lot of expensive war toys and went to war. For which of course, now we must be on terrorist watch, instead of helping those in poor countries to gain control of their own fates.
Probably because he was going by what his advisors suggested.
Instead of helping those in poor countries? Like Afghanistan, you mean? You know how much aid Canada has given the Afghans? You don't consider helping educate women and kids to be helping? Weird.



Come on, Harper didn't do that!! He inherited the wherewithal from the previous Liberal government. He made things worse in the end. Now the world is pulling out of recession and Canada is just sinking into one.
The last I heard, our recession died.

Spending more than one takes in is the sure road to poverty and depression.
According to ChRETIeN, "Dat's wud we do" ("we" meaning gov't).
I can't think of any country that doesn't dip into the red occasionally. Can you?

There are also factors like healthcare, when people keep insisting on gov't sponsored healthcare (that "single-tier BS is something like $7000 per person per year) and the baby boomers will soon be using up hospital space. It's been known for decades that the baby boomers were going to be a large burden yet the gov't that governed Canada the most over the past decades did what about it? DICK ALL Instead they hatched that ifdiotic gun registry crap ($2 billion or thereabouts), scammed a massive amount of money out of EI to boost the budget, etc etc etc.

So, I wouldn't snivel too much about Harpy's governance.
 
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I think the only people really unhappy about Harper are the leftards. I have not agreed with everything he has done, but I think Harper should be given a lot of credit for keeping Canada in positive territory during the world economic downturn. Given that, I don't think a bit of deficit financing over a short period is that bad. And looking at the current alternatives, if you are looking at deficit fighting, there isn't any other choice.

Conservative supporters are a very silly group. You should read a history book sometime.

No matter how you add it up, Harper’s fiscal record is a catastrophe
 

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...and Conservative Party supporters laud Klein while ****ting on Martin and Chrétien when they both balanced their budgets by downloading onto lower levels of government. That's the difference between a real conservative like myself and the pretend conservatives that infest this site. I actually support smaller government and balanced budgets regardless what party creates them.

Even when it really isn't a balanced budget but a fine art of smoke and mirrors? That was the reality of the Martin budgets. Had he actually balanced the budget, then there would have been something positive to have come from the Cretien/Martin governments other than the continuous stream of corruption scandals.

Conservative supporters are a very silly group. You should read a history book sometime.

No matter how you add it up, Harper’s fiscal record is a catastrophe

Like I said ...
 

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In your mind maybe but not in reality. The first couple of times when the economy was tanking Harper was saddled with a minority government. He had to make expensive concessions to retain power.Also Harper wan't really handed a surplus. Money was taken from EI to balance the books.Plus a lot of downloading of programs onto the provinces. SO at the end of the day, there being only one taxpayer there was no balancing of books or surpluses.
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