I know it upsets Conservative supporters when somebody shines a light on their utter incompetence when it comes to fiscal responsibility but the facts are the facts. Only a complete buffoon would try and sell the Harper Conservatives on their fiscal record. You really should stop embarrassing yourself. Instead, you should try and sell your boys with things they are good at. I'm sure, given enough time, you can probably think of something.
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If you want to look at buffoons and fiscal disasters waiting to happen, have a good look at Justine. He has already promised to expand the deficit (just like Daddy) throughout his term. And he has promised to hike taxes and remove tax breaks to anybody making any more than minimum wage. He calls it 'middle class' but his cutoff is household income of $90K which is pretty low. He won't be taxing just the 1% like he is promising which being a Lieberal isn't really that big of a surprise. I guess his budgets won't be balancing themselves after all.
I haven't looked at Mulcair's in depth yet other than to note he seems to be promising huge government spending without adequate sources of income to back it up unless he also plans to run deficits.
There are quite a few things the Con gov't can do better: a biggie is the promised transparency, the proroguing, omnibus bills, the unFaiar Elections Act, and a variety of lesser stupidities.
But his gov't has also accomplished a few FTAs with the EU, various FIPAs, renovating the Temp Foreign Worker thing so that Canadians get first cracks at jobs, making a bundle of air transport agreements with a whack of countries, etc. etc.
I think he's a ways off from being the best PM we've ever had but certainly not the worst one either.
But his gov't has also accomplished a few FTAs with the EU, various FIPAs, renovating the Temp Foreign Worker thing so that Canadians get first cracks at jobs, making a bundle of air transport agreements with a whack of countries, etc. etc.
I think he's a ways off from being the best PM we've ever had but certainly not the worst one either.
So what you are saying is .... Harper sort of bought his way into a majority by promising things he couldn't possibly deliver. He got his majority and simply made things so much worse. Usually a minority government means the tax payers get a break...that didn't happen with Harper. Doubt he will be able to get away with that again.
The only way out of a recession is getting people back to work and that takes money spent in manufacturing and business. So a reasonable deficit at this time is called for. The problem with Harper's deficit it went into bringing our fighter planes and weaponry up to where we can wage war....which cost big time with no upside in jobs.
More jobs mean more taxes. So 90,000 is the new minimum wage??? My my, I know a lot of seniors that will be thrilled with that!! Does he also propose raising the unemployment insurance, government pensions and welfare up to that level?? What a lovely break.
The Conservative notion that if a government gives the rich a break in taxes, they will invest in business so the money filters down. Guess what that doesn't happen, never did work and won't suddenly start working just because he wants it to. The rich simply move the money offshore.
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"Probably because he was going by what his advisors suggested.
Instead of helping those in poor countries? Like Afghanistan, you mean? You know how much aid Canada has given the Afghans? You don't consider helping educate women and kids to be helping? Weird."
What!!! I do not believe there has ever been such a control freak elected as Canadian Prime Minister ever. So how the heck did all the mess slip by him?? Further Canada as a whole (barring those warlike individuals who see a boogey man at every turn) believed in helping bring the world into the 21st century, not by bullets. Education, for the young and for women. The people who have been downtrodden all their lives, now have an alternative enemy other than then the US to take aim at.
Do notice that Harper will continue to use every opportunity to stop immigrants entering Canada without a complete and very LONG security screening. Is he hoping the terrorists will wipe out all those families before he has to put money where it will do the most good.
Martin not only balanced the budget but gave the Harper a surplus to start with. He pissed it away!! He could have refunded it. He didn't, he spent it on a lot of stuff that most Canadians do not approve of. When a population is poor, downtrodden and infested with thugs being bombed by a supposedly friendly, helpful nation does not count as help. Noticed how much more security we need these days??
The Provinces are doing very nicely, so I would guess that it wasn't that much of a mistake making them more responsible for their own budgets. They will probably get less this year because of the huge deficit Harper built up.
"Probably because he was going by what his advisors suggested.
Instead of helping those in poor countries? Like Afghanistan, you mean? You know how much aid Canada has given the Afghans? You don't consider helping educate women and kids to be helping? Weird."
What!!! I do not believe there has ever been such a control freak elected as Canadian Prime Minister ever. So how the heck did all the mess slip by him?? Further Canada as a whole (barring those warlike individuals who see a boogey man at every turn) believed in helping bring the world into the 21st century, not by bullets. Education, for the young and for women. The people who have been downtrodden all their lives, now have an alternative enemy other than then the US to take aim at.
Do notice that Harper will continue to use every opportunity to stop immigrants entering Canada without a complete and very LONG security screening. Is he hoping the terrorists will wipe out all those families before he has to put money where it will do the most good.
Martin not only balanced the budget but gave the Harper a surplus to start with. He pissed it away!! He could have refunded it. He didn't, he spent it on a lot of stuff that most Canadians do not approve of. When a population is poor, downtrodden and infested with thugs being bombed by a supposedly friendly, helpful nation does not count as help. Noticed how much more security we need these days??
The Provinces are doing very nicely, so I would guess that it wasn't that much of a mistake making them more responsible for their own budgets. They will probably get less this year because of the huge deficit Harper built up.
wow The provinces are doing fine? We have kids that can't read nor write languages properly going into uni, we have a disaster of a medical system, etc.
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I see you've been thoroughly brainwashed and snowed by the Gliberal party. Carry on. Keep plugging that same old party line. I see no point in pointing out facts to you.
You are right; the Cons are evil incarnate, they eat babies and throw kittens into running blenders and the Gilberals are all saints.
"The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking." - John Galbraith
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I see you've been thoroughly brainwashed and snowed by the Gliberal party. Carry on. Keep plugging that same old party line. I see no point in pointing out facts to you.
You are right; the Cons are evil incarnate, they eat babies and throw kittens into running blenders and the Gilberals are all saints.
"The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking." - John Galbraith
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...and Harper throughout his. Look, I know how important it is for you to deflect away from Harper's fiscal record. If I was one of his supporters, I'd probably do the same. It's not like it's the least bit defensible. Such is the game of politics.
...so he's planning more of the same then...
Hey, Do you really want the Federal government to take over education, I know the Province of Quebec does not want that! I have had bilateral knee replacements and am on the list for a hip replacement. Last spring I had cataracts removed. I have a friend who felt he was at death's door and even put a "no-resussistation notice on his fridge" because of COPD. He now walks around the block two to three times a day. I come from a time when we paid for all medical treatment and when my twins were born spent more than a year or two paying off their delivery and a month in a children's hospital. So don't tell me about medical treatment hardships......most people living today haven't a clue. If it is not free, and immediate, it is useless. Well you haven't a clue how the rest of the world lives.
Some like myself, diligently put aside money for retirement and learned about investing. I admit I am very well off because I did and I will not feel sorry for those who had no thought of living past their usefulness to the salary paying world. . Those who wanted to live high and not put aside for later in life or even for an emergency or two. So they are perhaps are not as well off!! They are not starving or dying in the street.
It seems only those who were born and worked before the Canada Pension Plan came in, or medicare think they are perhaps very poorly off. We have subsidized housing and quite decent assisted living facilities. We have special assisted programs for those who are not capable of living on their own.
Do you honestly think we should be bombing tribal civilization just because they are not democracies. They need to learn there are other ways of living, without being forced into such a change. I do not think Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, nor Turkey are better off since the West felt they needed to adopt our ways, do you??
It really irks me to hear people demanding more and more stuff they do not really deserve or need, when they live in the best country in the world. ( My personal opinion)
I believe helping a poor, downtrodden society rather than bombing the hell out of them is the honorable thing to do.
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In case you haven't noticed, there is such a thing as medical tourism these days. That basically means that if you need medical repairs of some sort and are wealthy enough, you travel to Cuba, India, Mexico, or some place that has affordable healthcare and get your procedure done, usually within the same week you apply for the procedure. If you can't afford it, you stay in Canuckville and wait, sometimes for over a year and sometimes in a good deal of pain. Why? Because gov'ts had absolutely no foresight to even bother doing routine maintenance on the infrastructure. And guess which party formed the gov't the most over the years.
And you would think that with medical tourism occurring, the waiting lists would be shorter. And the people who do go overseas to get healthcare still pay their insurance premiums here.
Dredging up the past is rather lame, too. In comparison to 200 years ago, your generation is a bunch of whiny, sniveling simps.
When I first started driving, gas was something like 40 cents a liter and a loaf of bread was about 70 cents. Big deal. It's a bit irrelevant as to today. And no, healthcare never was free. I've always paid insurance as has most other Canadians.
So tell me, how many poor countries has Canada bombed?
Just more geriatric ramblings that have nothing to do with the quoted post
Hehehe...I love irony
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On another note....one member of the younger crowd is quite...
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And absolute proof of ignorance from one of the permanently mental juvenile set.Just more geriatric ramblings that have nothing to do with the quoted post
How about Iraq and Syria?? Canada has bombed both. Now of course the governments that did the bombings are shying away from the damage they caused!! Why do you suppose all those refugees are heading out!!
Oh and how soon will it be before we will be bombing Cuba, Mexico?? Oh wait the US already tried that with Cuba and is trying to figure out how to export those millions of illegal Mexicans. Now we know India is rather far off for taking advantage of their health system. Besides every so often smallpox still pops up there. So what good is plastic surgery there, if one comes back with pock scars??
Oh and my generation (200 years ago yet) is beaten by your generation who think they deserve everything without lifting a finger. The country you live in so comfortably was built by OUR previous generations. I am not whinning, you and your generation is. . After all aren't you saying, to hell with all other societies, as long as you get yours??
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Wow , how you can extrapolate . I love the part were all the Syrian refugees are fleeing Canada's bombs .
Not a word about ISIS nope must be Canada's fault .
I wonder though can you please explain why there are 70 % adult males in those refugees ?
Where are the fleeing women and children ?
What I said is that Canada played the war games and was a contributor to the situation. Canada and Canadians generally speaking prefer to use humanitarian methods. The present government has changed that to our collective shame, the response of Canadians prove that. As to the war on terrorism, it is like the war on Communism. The biggest fact to remember.....every action creates an EQUAL reaction. So when we bomb other societies, we should not be too surprised at the equal and resulting reaction.
Now that 70% young males, makes some sense, as all births are 107 males to 100 females world wide. 62% fleeing from Syria, Iraq etc are below the age of 24 which includes all children, including women and orphaned children. Moving up to 20 to 24 age group, many have already escaped through Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq and Egypt. Why would you think, that offered meals, a place to sleep, a chance for an education and peace, along with some security from being subscripted in to an army with the high probability of death at a young age, not sway any youngster??? Most of those fleeing have lost some or most of their friends and families, so they are not ignorant about war and life. Do you realize one family every minute flees Syria?? Even before this terrible crisis, 3.2 million were amongst those who fled to those countries I mentioned above.
Now as far as Isis goes, you might want to research their beginning. Oh boy that will really curl your hair.
Oh, and our armed forces are the greatest at planning and organization, and they should be in there helping with those sorting out the refugees. They are the greatest advertisement for Canadians we could ask for.
Now that 70% young males, makes some sense, as all births are 107 males to 100 females world wide. 62% fleeing from Syria, Iraq etc are below the age of 24 which includes all children, including women and orphaned children. Moving up to 20 to 24 age group, many have already escaped through Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq and Egypt. Why would you think, that offered meals, a place to sleep, a chance for an education and peace, along with some security from being subscripted in to an army with the high probability of death at a young age, not sway any youngster??? Most of those fleeing have lost some or most of their friends and families, so they are not ignorant about war and life. Do you realize one family every minute flees Syria?? Even before this terrible crisis, 3.2 million were amongst those who fled to those countries I mentioned above.
Now as far as Isis goes, you might want to research their beginning. Oh boy that will really curl your hair.
Oh, and our armed forces are the greatest at planning and organization, and they should be in there helping with those sorting out the refugees. They are the greatest advertisement for Canadians we could ask for.
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