South Carolina cop kills man over Traffic Stop in the BACK!!

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so you deal with this all of the time, obviously a systemic problem...how does it get fixed?

Far be it for me to question one forum member's question to another but do you think he's stable enough tonight to give an unbiased opinion?

Sorry, I was refering to the guy in MO and the guy killed by the neighbourhood watch guy. The Cleveland cop should have been charged.

Ski, he's been trying to put them all in the same category all day now.
 

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Has anyone stopped to think what would happen if there was no one around to have filmed it?

Eight rounds fired, 5 hits.

All hits from the rear, one clipped his ear, one in the buttocks, 3 in the back including the one that hit his heart and killed him.

No powder burns.

The cop would be done like dinner.

The only disaster would be that it would not be immediately obvious he shot him without reason, so the crowd would have had time to go insane, a reaction hopefully waylaid by the immediate arrest and charge of the officer.
 

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What was the outcome of that trial? hmmmm?

I think you picked the wrong fight brah.
Hasn't been a trial yet. You could note that I didn't say whether or not the cops in that case were guilty of homicide, I merely recounted the treatment of the victim in some of the fouler holes of the media, and talked about how the cops treated the victim and his sister after the shooting. Inhuman and disgusting is not illegal.

Well, you could note that if you weren't busy trying to mousetrap me.

Sorry, I was refering to the guy in MO and the guy killed by the neighbourhood watch guy. The Cleveland cop should have been charged.
D'accord.
 

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Far be it for me to question one forum member's question to another but do you think he's stable enough tonight to give an unbiased opinion?
stable, yes most definitely

unbiased opinion...name one person on this forum who can do so.... actually give an unbiased balanced opinion?

we are all biased, who can step back and give a balanced opinion... meh, it merely comes down sadly to if we support the forum members bias. no?

I can quite often support his bias since he slides back and forth on the continuum...
 

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that sickens me, and as gore said...how many other innocents lost their lives in this manner

so you deal with this all of the time, obviously a systemic problem...how does it get fixed?
Training.

With any luck they won't fix it. It would substantially reduce the volume of poo flung by the apes if they did.

Eight rounds fired, 5 hits.

All hits from the rear, one clipped his ear, one in the buttocks, 3 in the back including the one that hit his heart and killed him.

No powder burns.

The cop would be done like dinner.

The only disaster would be that it would not be immediately obvious he shot him without reason, so the crowd would have had time to go insane, a reaction hopefully waylaid by the immediate arrest and charge of the officer.
I actually feel kinda sorry for Slager.
 

Sal

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Training.

With any luck they won't fix it. It would substantially reduce the volume of poo flung by the apes if they did.
training... I agree

hiring...they also need to examine their hiring practices as well as their psychological profile that is required to do the job

we don't know what was in this cops head but for sure fear was there...not fear of losing his life of course but fear of colour, race, whatever...why wasn't that screened...why wasn't that caught...this cop is an example of "hiring practices, and training combined" they are supposed to have a goal...I don't think it's being met...why?

why don't you want them to fix it?

people are dying
 

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training... I agree

hiring...they also need to examine their hiring practices as well as they psychological profile that is required to do the job
Agreed, but a properly designed and executed training regimen will weed out the bad ones as a second line of defense.

we don't know what was in this cops head but for sure fear was there...not fear of losing his life of course but fear of colour, race, whatever...why wasn't that screened...why wasn't that caught...this cop is an example of "hiring practices, and training combined" they are supposed to have a goal...I don't think it's being met...why?
Quite the contrary. Police training has been becoming increasingly military in style, even as violent crime has plummeted. They ARE acting as they are trained. Relatively few jurisdictions emphasize de-escalation, negotiation, and non-lethal force. Read Radley Balko.
 

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Innocent until proven guilty. I'm just defending Slager the same way posters defended the cops who shot Martin, Brown, Garner, Rice, Crawford, etc., i.e. by upholding the officer's claim and making unfounded, lying accusations against the victims.

Comparing Martin and Brown to this guy?

I don't recall seeing in the video the victim bashing the cops head against the curb or having just strong-armed a store owner followed up with crushing the cops orbital socket.
 

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Comparing Martin and Brown to this guy?

I don't recall seeing in the video the victim bashing the cops head against the curb or having just strong-armed a store owner followed up with crushing the cops orbital socket.
You're right. Tamir Rice was a threat to everyone. I'm glad he's dead, as no doubt you are too.

Walter Scott, too. He was an animal.
 

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There is nothing more frightening than any honor student reaching for his waistband... Could be a calculator, could be a glock.. Ya just never know
Best to just shoot.

Did you see the one where the cop told the guy to get his license, then shot him when he reached in his car to get his license?

That was a good one.
 

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Agreed, but a properly designed and executed training regimen will weed out the bad ones as a second line of defense.


Quite the contrary. Police training has been becoming increasingly military in style, even as violent crime has plummeted. They ARE acting as they are trained. Relatively few jurisdictions emphasize de-escalation, negotiation, and non-lethal force. Read Radley Balko.

Well, here in Canada that simply is not so.

I have never been a peace officer, but I was trained by cops with a capital "C". I took a course in Toronto on Crisis Management, Law and Use of Force, Handcuffing, Effective Communications, sharp-edged weapons defense, and use of the baton. I was qualified as an instructor to pass these skills on to private security.

I was also, in a completely different setting, trained and qualified as a firearms instructor for private guards (armoured car services)

Our head instructor at the first school mentioned had been an instructor at the OPP Police Academy, and the head instructor at the Toronto Police Academy....he had also been a Toronto street cop for 22 years.

He said something to us that amazed me coming from a police officer: "There is something about police work that attracts exactly the wrong type of person"

He went on to reflect on how difficult it was to weed out the dangerous, the sadistic, the dishonest,. as many would never reveal their tendency in any test........until that test was a situation on the job.

That always stuck with me.