Kid commits suicide after Gay Conversion Therapy

Angstrom

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Between consenting adults. If you have a problem understanding the words, maybe ask one of your kids to explain it to you.

Well I have to hand it to you gerryh, you're way more kinky then you first were portraying yourself to be. :)
 

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It's not part of the "lifestyle" and has everything to do with the "therapy" and the way useless fu cking a$$holes like yourself and her parents treated her. End of story. If we didn't have brainless twats like you, doing your best to make LGBT's feel like shyte, the suicide rate would drop through the floor. So take credit for what you do. You help to contribute to the death of many children because of your attitude towards them and no amount of "no I don't" will change the truth of it.

You are wrong Gerry.

Post-operative TGs have a suicide rate 20 times the norm.

He also reported on a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people. Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”
Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;' Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible’ | CNS News

Transgender is a mental disorder.

Enabling people with this illness, especially by physically mutilating them, is not doing them a favour.
 

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Life must be really difficult for any person born with sexual preferences that are not acceptable.

It would be easier to think it's a curable disorder.
 

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Life must be really difficult for any person born with sexual preferences that are not acceptable.

It would be easier to think it's a curable disorder.


Well that includes most of us.....................for me it's my 18 year old neighbour with the big t!ts!
 

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If my kid turned out to be transgender i would be obviously upset but i wouldn't keep them back from what they want.

Id be like micheal Keaton on the movie "The other guys" :lol:
 

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There is no "slippery slope". That's the fall back position when the bigots can't come up with reasonable arguments.

I told you we were on a slippery slope gerryh.
And I wasent the bigot in this situation. :)
 
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You are wrong Gerry.

Post-operative TGs have a suicide rate 20 times the norm.

Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;' Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible’ | CNS News

Transgender is a mental disorder.

Enabling people with this illness, especially by physically mutilating them, is not doing them a favour.

This is because there is a heck of a lot more that goes on with transitioning than even those who are TG get, and a good portion of them, especially those who transition, think that transitioning will not just fix them but make them insta-happy. When it doesn't, depression hits and it's a perfect depressive suicidal storm. Not that you'd know about depression or anything, causey our life is oh so perfect you've NEVER had to suffer such a thing, right?

They don't get they still have to deal with the issues they had before the op: azzholes like you Colpy, other bigots, hate from not just the straight community but the Gay, Lesbian and wackadoodles in the whole Alphabet Soup Group like Lezbo-Nazi's (Lesbian FemaNazi's), PLUS with all the other crap of their life like the lack of acceptance of family to downright disownment, society thinking anyone TG is "lying", the Gender Dysphoria they have, any abuse affects they've suffered (which is likely a lot).

TG is not a mental disorder, it's the crap society and their own families do to these people that MAKES their lives a living hell that leads to mental issues. I feel pity for your family, I hope to whatever God you believe in that no one ever deviates from your so called "norm" though if so, I also hope society will be gentle with them, gentler than you would be anyway.
 

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This is because there is a heck of a lot more that goes on with transitioning than even those who are TG get, and a good portion of them, especially those who transition, think that transitioning will not just fix them but make them insta-happy. When it doesn't, depression hits and it's a perfect depressive suicidal storm. Not that you'd know about depression or anything, causey our life is oh so perfect you've NEVER had to suffer such a thing, right?

They don't get they still have to deal with the issues they had before the op: azzholes like you Colpy, other bigots, hate from not just the straight community but the Gay, Lesbian and wackadoodles in the whole Alphabet Soup Group like Lezbo-Nazi's (Lesbian FemaNazi's), PLUS with all the other crap of their life like the lack of acceptance of family to downright disownment, society thinking anyone TG is "lying", the Gender Dysphoria they have, any abuse affects they've suffered (which is likely a lot).

TG is not a mental disorder, it's the crap society and their own families do to these people that MAKES their lives a living hell that leads to mental issues. I feel pity for your family, I hope to whatever God you believe in that no one ever deviates from your so called "norm" though if so, I also hope society will be gentle with them, gentler than you would be anyway.

The same for the morally handicapped.if they could help themselves they wouldn't act morally wrong like most have the ability to control.
 

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The same for the morally handicapped.if they could help themselves they wouldn't act morally wrong like most have the ability to control.

o_O Really? You can't equate Morals to being TG. Morals can be different from person to person and can be chosen. Some are the same yes, but others are not. Being TG is not in any way, shape or form a moral. It's how a person is.
 

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o_O Really? You can't equate Morals to being TG. Morals can be different from person to person and can be chosen. Some are the same yes, but others are not. Being TG is not in any way, shape or form a moral. It's how a person is.

How are you sure these people are capable of moral thinking?
Maybe it's simply how these people are. Incapable of thinking morally.

Morally handicapped. if they could make decisions Based on
good morals they would. Most of us are capable,
just like most of us can walk.

Just because most can do it, doesn't mean everyone can.
 

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Morals change. Not that long ago in our culture girls were married off at 13 and homosexuality was criminal offence.

Do you think someone who is committing rape would do it if he was capable of moral thinking?
No of course not. He would realize right away that it's wrong and stop immediately.
 

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Do you think someone who is committing rape would do it if he was capable of moral thinking?
No of course not. He would realize right away that it's wrong and stop immediately.

By moral thinking, do you mean being able to apprecaite the difference between right and wrong?
 

Serryah

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How are you sure these people are capable of moral thinking?
Maybe it's simply how these people are. Incapable of thinking morally.

Morally handicapped. if they could make decisions Based on
good morals they would. Most of us are capable,
just like most of us can walk.

Just because most can do it, doesn't mean everyone can.

What the heck does morality have to do with someone being TG? Unless Morals are biological, there is no equating the two.

The closest you could come is if said person was TG-Gay - say a male to female but likes females - and then you could question the 'morality' of any relationship as much as you can question the 'morality' of any gay relationship. But whether the person is MtF or FtM has nothing to do with morality.

And by what basis do you say someone who is TG has no 'good morals'?

Do you think someone who is committing rape would do it if he was capable of moral thinking?
No of course not. He would realize right away that it's wrong and stop immediately.

Except there ARE people who think Rape IS moral, that it is within their 'moral rights' to take what they want from women, regardless of permission. They are right to do with women what they want. Add to that, so they have no proper 'moral thinking' when it comes to rape, but if we ask this same rapist if he believes in say, pedophilia, and they vehemently say no, how are they now suddenly capable of moral thinking when they weren't before?

Rape isn't about morality mostly, it's about control, a person's control over another person.

That's why morality - what is right and wrong - is subjective, IMO. Even when the majority agree something is immoral, there will always be someone who think it is their moral right to do/believe/say otherwise.