Kid commits suicide after Gay Conversion Therapy

[Angstrom]

What the heck does morality have to do with someone being TG? Unless Morals are biological, there is no equating the two.

The closest you could come is if said person was TG-Gay - say a male to female but likes females - and then you could question the 'morality' of any relationship as much as you can question the 'morality' of any gay relationship. But whether the person is MtF or FtM has nothing to do with morality.

And by what basis do you say someone who is TG has no 'good morals'?



Except there ARE people who think Rape IS moral, that it is within their 'moral rights' to take what they want from women, regardless of permission. They are right to do with women what they want. Add to that, so they have no proper 'moral thinking' when it comes to rape, but if we ask this same rapist if he believes in say, pedophilia, and they vehemently say no, how are they now suddenly capable of moral thinking when they weren't before?

Rape isn't about morality mostly, it's about control, a person's control over another person.

That's why morality - what is right and wrong - is subjective, IMO. Even when the majority agree something is immoral, there will always be someone who think it is their moral right to do/believe/say otherwise.

If homosexuality is a sexual preference, and can't be cured.
Then
None consentual sex is also a sexual preference, and can't be cured.
And
pedophilia is a sexual preference, and can't be cured.


It's all wrong but they can't help themselves.

 

[tay]

Petition for 'Leelah's Law' Banning Conversion Therapy Heads to White House






A White House petition to ban so-called LGBT conversion therapy received more than 100,000 signatures this week, meaning President Barack Obama's administration must formally respond to the request.


Written in the wake of trans teen Leelah Alcorn's highly publicized suicide late last year, the petition proposes a federal statute dubbed "Leelah's Law" that would require all states to end efforts by therapists to change a person's sexual orientation or gender identity, alternately known as "conversion," "reparative," or "ex-gay" therapy.


The practice of attempting to change someone's sexual orientation or gender identity — often employing mental and physical tactics to create aversion to LGBT identities, including bribing, lying, disciplining, shaming, and attributing LGBT identity to repressed sexual abuse — has been denounced as ineffective and harmful by every major medical and mental health organization in the country. The American Psychological Association and other health organizations have disavowed the practice, and many LGBT rights groups consider such efforts to be torture.


So-called conversion therapists — who are often, but not always, religiously affiliated — may evoke Biblical condemnation of homosexuality or transgender identities to induce shame in patients, and in extreme cases may attempt to induce nauseau, vomiting, or paralysis while showing a subject homoerotic images, employ physical restraints, or induce pain through extreme temperatures, needles, and electric shocks, according to a 2009 report by the APA.


Currently, only California, New Jersey, and Washington, D.C., have state laws that prohibit licensed therapists from engaging in such practices on minors, but advocates of Leelah's Law hope to see such bans expanded on a nationwide scale.


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Petition for 'Leelah's Law' Banning Conversion Therapy Heads to White House | Advocate.com

 

[Sal]

If homosexuality is a sexual preference, and can't be cured.
Then
None consentual sex is also a sexual preference, and can't be cured.
And
pedophilia is a sexual preference, and can't be cured.


It's all wrong but they can't help themselves.

homosexuality isn't about non-concentual sex and there in lies ALL of the difference