Kid commits suicide after Gay Conversion Therapy

Angstrom

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Just like the parents in the OP..... being Gay or Transgendered was "odd" to them also.

Yes.

But what the kid did in reaction was wrong.
It sounds like he did it on purpose to have a reaction.

And not because his life was totally unbearable.
 

Angstrom

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you have no idea what is or is not bearable in the mind and life of another unless you walk in their shoes.

All we know is the weak have low barring capacity.
And the strong have high barring capacity.

$650 here. Not all that expensive considering the true costs of having them.

I was assuming hiring someone to bear you're child would be a very difficult find, and a much more costly process.
 

WLDB

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I was assuming hiring someone to bear you're child would be a very difficult find, and a much more costly process.

Perhaps it could be. In my case Im just giving my sperm to a lesbian. Might be easier for them than gay males, but I also know one gay male who did manage to reproduce with a straight female who happened to also want a child and didnt have a partner. There are other routes out there.
 

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Perhaps it could be. In my case Im just giving my sperm to a lesbian. Might be easier for them than gay males, but I also know one gay male who did manage to reproduce with a straight female who happened to also want a child and didnt have a partner. There are other routes out there.

Yes I agree. Not as easy but possible.

you have no idea what is or is not bearable in the mind and life of another unless you walk in their shoes.

He took the selfish easy way out.
 

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All we know is the weak have low barring capacity.
And the strong have high barring capacity.



I was assuming hiring someone to bear you're child would be a very difficult find, and a much more costly process.
yes another pseudo psychologist who thinks he "knows". What would we do without y'all.
 

gerryh

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He took the easy selfish way out.

I do not believe society should reward that with a law.




Normally, I might just agree with you. In this case, I really need to hear what your reasoning as to how this was the "easy selfish" way out.
 

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Normally, I might just agree with you. In this case, I really need to hear what your reasoning as to how this was the "easy selfish" way out.

I think he wanted to punish his parents.

I think he wanted to have a law in his name.

I think his suicided was more about that then "it" being unbearable.
 

gerryh

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I think he wanted to punish his parents.

I think he wanted to have a law in his name.

I think his suicided was more about that then "it" being unbearable.




This does not answer the question. How was this the easy selfish way out.






At 17 SHE would have known that her suicide alone would not necessarily change anything. SHE may have hoped, that in some small way, what SHE was doing would help others. Being "vocal" in a way that some may not be able to shut HER up.
 

Angstrom

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This does not answer the question. How was this the easy selfish way out.






At 17 SHE would have known that her suicide alone would not necessarily change anything. SHE may have hoped, that in some small way, what SHE was doing would help others. Being "vocal" in a way that some may not be able to shut HER up.


It is to me.
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I may be totally wrong about what happen, there is no way to know, she is now dead.
 

gerryh

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It is to me.
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I may be totally wrong about what happen, there is no way to know she is dead.




Ok, then if you admit to not knowing "what happened", then how the hell can you form a conclusion? Are you psychic or just psychotic.
 

WLDB

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He took the easy selfish way out.

No more selfish than wanting to reproduce as much as possible just to keep your own genes alive for a long shot at "immortality."

Judging by the suicide note it didnt seem all that selfish. The kid did want something to come from her death. She flat out said that in the note, but it would do her no good. She'd dead. She wanted it to hopefully help other people. I think she went about it the wrong way but thats pretty normal. Suicide is almost never a rational act. Its a bit odd to expect someone acting irrationally to be rational. Particularly a hormonal teenager who had been dealing with major issues for years.

I think he wanted to punish his parents.

There is that line "The best revenge is living well." It would have been better for everyone if the kid had done that instead. Like I said, that would have been the rational thing to do. At 17 she didnt have much longer to have to deal with her parents but when you are that age things look a hell of a lot different to some.

Are you psychic or just psychotic.

He has claimed to be a psychopath in the past.