Kid commits suicide after Gay Conversion Therapy

Angstrom

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no

that is YOUR perception and you wish to impose your agenda upon all of mankind and yet you keep spieling off about others being on their high horse

this is a confused kid in the care of supposed adults who were supposed to protect, love and nurture this kid...they failed on all accounts

this is not about you and your philosophy, or Darwin's survival of the fittest or mankind's ego need to reproduce himself, it's about this kid period

I agree, best to let the kid be as is.

He takes himself out of the evolutionary chain regardless.


Trying to have more
 

Angstrom

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I just don't like his suicide. He did so hoping for a government reaction .

if they had let the kid be, she would have at least had a chance at life, yes.

Yes, but his parents are right to say he was confused.

In my mind any living thing that makes a choice to not reproduce is confused.
And yes this is my opinion based on my observation of the world.

if they had let the kid be, she would have at least had a chance at life, yes.

She had a chance at life . She took her own life hoping for a reaction. That is her own fault.
 

gerryh

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Trying to have more




define "trying". If the sole purpose of mankind being on this earth is to "spread ones DNA" then I assume you are "trying" with more than one partner to ensure that your DNA is getting the most coverage.
 

Angstrom

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define "trying". If the sole purpose of mankind being on this earth is to "spread ones DNA" then I assume you are "trying" with more than one partner to ensure that your DNA is getting the most coverage.

I asked my wife, and she strictly prohibits it unfortunately.
I respect her wishes.
 

gerryh

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I asked my wife, and she strictly prohibits it unfortunately.
I respect her wishes.




Then you are not following your own beliefs. You are not following what you keep putting out there that everyone else is supposed to follow. With you having only 3 kids, with one woman, from my view point, you have been a complete failure at your reason d'etre.
 

Angstrom

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Then you are not following your own beliefs. You are not following what you keep putting out there that everyone else is supposed to follow. With you having only 3 kids, with one woman, from my view point, you have been a complete failure at your reason d'etre.

This only proves there must be some much more dominant male's then me out there.
 

Angstrom

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More dominate than you? That's not the image you portray on this board.

Maybe I portrait myself as a much more dominant male then what I am in reality because this is what I strive to be?

Striving to be and what you are can be two different things
 

gerryh

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Maybe I portrait myself as a much more dominant male then what I am in reality because this is what I strive to be?

Striving to be and what you are can be two different things




It's "portray". A "portrait" is a picture.
 

damngrumpy

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kelowna bc
You mean to say his parents had the right to say he was confused and put him
through hell because he didn't believe what they believed? Now I truly know
the essence of silliness. No they do not have the right to tell the child what to
think or that the child must believe what they believe. It is the responsibility
of the parent to tell the child what they believe but its the responsibility to take
the knowledge passed on and form their own belief system. In this case the kid
rejected conservative Christianity it could have been any religion, This should
not have been an enforcement excuse to punish him in a manner that is more
suitable to the Middle Ages.
I remember growing up when I didn't buy into a lot of my parents belief system.
My mother a devout Roman Catholic, my Father less so. We discussed all kinds
of things from some serious points of view. I was asked why I thought the way
I did but they didn't admonish me for thinking differently.
Some people believe the genetic line if broken is a sin and everyone has to
reproduce and that is well others beliefs I'll leave it at that. We are in a new age
many women don't want children they don't even want a husband fine with me.
And yes I have seven kids, twenty three grand kids four great grand kids.
I would not tell any ot them they are not entitled to their own beliefs and their
personal lifestyle. These parents in this case use religion as an excuse to bully
and terrorize their child to the point where the child killed them self and some
and some don't see anything wrong with that? Never mind God having trouble
forgiving the kid he is going to have one hell of a time forgiving parents and
professionals and preacher for using his name in such a destructive way
 

gerryh

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You mean to say his parents had the right to say he was confused and put him
through hell because he didn't believe what they believed? Now I truly know
the essence of silliness. No they do not have the right to tell the child what to
think or that the child must believe what they believe. It is the responsibility
of the parent to tell the child what they believe but its the responsibility to take
the knowledge passed on and form their own belief system. In this case the kid
rejected conservative Christianity it could have been any religion, This should
not have been an enforcement excuse to punish him in a manner that is more
suitable to the Middle Ages.
I remember growing up when I didn't buy into a lot of my parents belief system.
My mother a devout Roman Catholic, my Father less so. We discussed all kinds
of things from some serious points of view. I was asked why I thought the way
I did but they didn't admonish me for thinking differently.
Some people believe the genetic line if broken is a sin and everyone has to
reproduce and that is well others beliefs I'll leave it at that. We are in a new age
many women don't want children they don't even want a husband fine with me.
And yes I have seven kids, twenty three grand kids four great grand kids.
I would not tell any ot them they are not entitled to their own beliefs and their
personal lifestyle. These parents in this case use religion as an excuse to bully
and terrorize their child to the point where the child killed them self and some
and some don't see anything wrong with that? Never mind God having trouble
forgiving the kid he is going to have one hell of a time forgiving parents and
professionals and preacher for using his name in such a destructive way




That's the difference between Catholicism and the other "Christian" sects.
 

Angstrom

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You mean to say his parents had the right to say he was confused and put him
through hell because he didn't believe what they believed? Now I truly know
the essence of silliness. No they do not have the right to tell the child what to
think or that the child must believe what they believe. It is the responsibility
of the parent to tell the child what they believe but its the responsibility to take
the knowledge passed on and form their own belief system. In this case the kid
rejected conservative Christianity it could have been any religion, This should
not have been an enforcement excuse to punish him in a manner that is more
suitable to the Middle Ages.
I remember growing up when I didn't buy into a lot of my parents belief system.
My mother a devout Roman Catholic, my Father less so. We discussed all kinds
of things from some serious points of view. I was asked why I thought the way
I did but they didn't admonish me for thinking differently.
Some people believe the genetic line if broken is a sin and everyone has to
reproduce and that is well others beliefs I'll leave it at that. We are in a new age
many women don't want children they don't even want a husband fine with me.
And yes I have seven kids, twenty three grand kids four great grand kids.
I would not tell any ot them they are not entitled to their own beliefs and their
personal lifestyle. These parents in this case use religion as an excuse to bully
and terrorize their child to the point where the child killed them self and some
and some don't see anything wrong with that? Never mind God having trouble
forgiving the kid he is going to have one hell of a time forgiving parents and
professionals and preacher for using his name in such a destructive way

I said I agreed with the parents who believed her child was confused.

I didn't say I agree with the parents, to send her to a Christian correctional program.

I don't believe Homosexuality is wrong because God says so.

I believe It's wrong because it' makes it impossible for life to reproduce itself and survive.
 
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