Did I ask you?
How did the models fail?
Don't like the scientists involved?
Which ones?
What papers have you read to confirm this?
Did you do your own research?
Publish any papers?
.........or, did you read an online blog with the Koolaid guy at the bottom confirming your predisposed beliefs like taxi accused the scientists of doing without a shred of evidence to support it?
The only thing that would convince me personally that AGW is garbage would be to expose a vast.....and I mean vast conspiracy.
Call me the magic bullet guy.....prove to me that it is all one big hoax.
A lack of ocean modelling. Since geophysicists can't currently model and predict the systems that drive ocean currents let alone ocean currents themselves, there is absolutely no way of predicting atmospheric responses to said oceanic systems.
I'm sure somebody will call bull**** without verifying this fact.
Have fun kids.
I see a cider and bbq in mine.
I see a rye and water in my immediate future, I even developed a model to determine the probability of said prediction.
... Success... 100% success and complete consensus from the international scientific community
Cheers bud..
I don't know a d@mn thing about science and couldn't begin to have a half way intelligent discussion on the subject so that's why I generally stay away from it. However, I found a recent tv show about South Dakota on local PBS to be quite interesting: it reported findings of alligator fossils and swamps in prehistoric excavations there. This is proof that climate change can happen. The question is, when will the next one take place.
I leave that question up to the experts.
I don't know a d@mn thing about science and couldn't begin to have a half way intelligent discussion on the subject so that's why I generally stay away from it. However, I found a recent tv show about South Dakota on local PBS to be quite interesting: it reported findings of alligator fossils and swamps in prehistoric excavations there. This is proof that climate change can happen. The question is, when will the next one take place.
I leave that question up to the experts.
this isn't even a political thing anymore (although usually the sides were already made-up) but one of defiance. the way the media, mental masturbators and money interests have simply fooled a lot of seemingly intelligent people into thinking that suddenly, just recently, the world has gone to hell and it is because of the 'right', or 'oil' or ignorant nasty moderators is stunning. the gullibility is sad. these people used to be free thinkers, the wonderers. now they become numbed.
...now they have become drones for the cause, regardless of the embarrassment they are feeling. they will never submit or relent because to do so would mean losing face, not the debate, because there is no goddamn debate and they know it. they will go down with their ship. it's sad to watch. it's like benny hinn and jim jones grabbed their hands and have led them along.it's a cult man.
I see a cider and bbq in mine.
We went for dinner last night and capped off with a double of Oban for dessert.
I don't know a d@mn thing about science and couldn't begin to have a half way intelligent discussion on the subject so that's why I generally stay away from it. However, I found a recent tv show about South Dakota on local PBS to be quite interesting: it reported findings of alligator fossils and swamps in prehistoric excavations there. This is proof that climate change can happen. The question is, when will the next one take place.
I leave that question up to the experts.
I liked The Cult. Very tight band I thought, lot's of haunting tunes.
Climate has definitely changed. My home province of SK was once at the base of a tropical sea. .
How would he not know? It's not a secret.
It's not there anymore. What is his evidentiary basis for believing it. He thinks sceintists are full of crap, so just wondering who told him the place used to be a tropical sea. God?
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But people with stock portfolios heavily invested in oil and gas say the science is bunk, so it must be. How could billions of tone of pollutants in the atmosphere and water possibly affect the climate.Oh those pesky thermometers and scientists...if only there was a way to check the thermometer record, like say with some temperature record that doesn't fill in the temperature over my house with the temperature measured at the airport...
Oh right, there is! Check out the nearly parallel lines (equivalent trends). One from those bastards at CRU using thermometers with homogeneity adjustments, the other courtesy of that stalwart skeptic John Christy, using orbitting satellites:
The satellites don't fill in the temperature over Mississauga with the temperature measured in Oakville. They're showing the same thing though. Huh. That's called replication of results. Different systems of measurement, and different systems of analysis.
Science!
But people with stock portfolios heavily invested in oil and gas say the science is bunk, so it must be. How could billions of tone of pollutants in the atmosphere and water possibly affect the climate.
This debate will go on until the naysayers choke on their own biased opinions.