Canadian unemployment rate rises to 7% in May

Tonington

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Hey Ton, do you still have that link for the CPC subsidies?

I'm not sure what you're looking for, but likely not. I don't save many links on my computer. But when I googled 'CPC subsidies' I found a thread started by our very own Derpy thanking "C-CPC Comrades! Oilpatch subsidies said to total $2.8 billion".
 

darkbeaver

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And yet we need more tradesmen but ran out of camp space and I got two calls so far this week asking me to come to work. Lots of jobs just not for people with no skills living in depressed cities.
Now if we were to start building pipelines and refineries we would have to import qualified workers.b

Trades people! How can they possibly help in todays dynamic service industries. No what you need is more business majors and office experts, environmental experts, wedding planners and expert transgender surgeons. Apparently you know nothing of the amazingly sucessful Information Highway, and the millions of high paying call center jobs, these are the people who actually run our amazingly successful economic nation. Of course if your toilet plugs you will simply have to buy a new one, the instructions are easy to follow.
 

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Break up=seasonal, ARIMA statistics means the seasonal cycle is removed.

RCS may not have known that. Suffice it to say, it's not a factor in these changes.

Breakup does not just affect oil field jobs Toni, it affects all sorts of work. The trucking industry in other provinces also falls off in May, manufacturing and imports slow down.
 

Tonington

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Breakup does not just affect oil field jobs Toni, it affects all sorts of work. The trucking industry in other provinces also falls off in May, manufacturing and imports slow down.

I get that Mark...what I'm saying is that Stats Canada, and most other statistical bureaus around the world, use seasonally adjusted numbers for a reason. A predictable cycle like spring break-up is an example of an effect on employment that they adjust for. They also adjust for things like holidays, think of the increase in spending around Christmas. They also adjust for things like calendar effects, people tend to spend more on Saturdays when they aren't at work, so they account for if there is as an example 4 or 5 Saturdays in a month. Likewise they adjust for cycles in agriculture and fishing seasons...my point was simply that there are many predictable cycles in employment, and Stats Canada uses a form of moving average to reduce the large spikes in employment numbers.

If they didn't, the trends attributable to say actual long-term growth or retraction in the labour market are more difficult to see. The seasonal effects can be very large, and could swamp longer-term trends in the data. It's signal and noise.
 

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I get that Mark...what I'm saying is that Stats Canada, and most other statistical bureaus around the world, use seasonally adjusted numbers for a reason. A predictable cycle like spring break-up is an example of an effect on employment that they adjust for. They also adjust for things like holidays, think of the increase in spending around Christmas. They also adjust for things like calendar effects, people tend to spend more on Saturdays when they aren't at work, so they account for if there is as an example 4 or 5 Saturdays in a month. Likewise they adjust for cycles in agriculture and fishing seasons...my point was simply that there are many predictable cycles in employment, and Stats Canada uses a form of moving average to reduce the large spikes in employment numbers.

If they didn't, the trends attributable to say actual long-term growth or retraction in the labour market are more difficult to see. The seasonal effects can be very large, and could swamp longer-term trends in the data. It's signal and noise.

Makes you think that an annual or a semi annual statistic would offer a better model for what actual job numbers are rather than hair splitting, even with deductions of seasonal work it is sort of skewed when you break it down month to month. Would you agree not an exact science.
 

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Well now we know why our debt to gdp ratio is higher than Germany's.

IMF Pegs Canada's Fossil Fuel Subsidies at $34 Billion per year

These figures are found in the appendix of a major report released last year estimating global energy subsidies at almost $2 trillion. The report estimated that eliminating the subsidies would reduce global carbon emissions by 13 per cent. The stunning statistics specific to this country remain almost completely unreported in Canadian media.

In comparison to other countries, Canada provides more subsidies to petroleum as a proportion of government revenue than any developed nation on Earth besides the United States and Luxembourg.
 
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darkbeaver

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A fossil fuel subsidy goes to 34 billion per year. The worlds reigning con game, supreme for ten decades now. There is no such thing as fossil fuel, water and incandescent carburets,of metal, chiefly iron, deep in the hot earth , the oxygen bonds with the iron the hydrogen with the carbon and thus to mineral oil. The production of hydro carbons on any celestial body proceeds that way. We've already burned several planets worth of fossilized dynosaurs and clams and still the black gold seeps up from the depths.
So why are have we been paying through the nose for a century. The throttle of supply is a wonderful money maker.
 

darkbeaver

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by contrast, unemployment in USA is 6.3%


obviously, Obama is having a better year than Harper ;)

A remarkable number 6.3, truley spectacular economic power house green shoots cover the land, what recession?
One of the top ten American Presidents, ever. Nobel prize, spectacular health care program, amazing leadership in environmental revolutions, particularly the dire CO2 sityeation, oh I almost forgot the burning soon to starve planet. Astronomical world leadership, what with his er ah condition. No doubt the two potentates are close conspirators in moral and ethical values each doing their part for the better world to come. I'm near tears, there's a lump in my throat as I think about these far visioning specimens of human civility hunched over a map p[lanning the emancipation of some deserving back water. I note they both religiously attended D-Day productions celebrating the castration of Yurup.Unemployment is closer to 26.3% than it is to 6.3%. Government figures are unreliable unless you have the factors and code. I see thqat you may not have gotten the diirective. Submit form 52b to the Dept of Fudge, Washingmachine DC. SARCHASIM ALERT
 

darkbeaver

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Not for a lot of people who just want a part time job! I would agree they would suck for people whose job is their sole source of money.

Money is the past, if you got a 10lb chicken in your freezer what you paid ten dollars for this week next week it will still be ten pounds of chicken but your ten dollars won't buy you ten pounds of chicken this week, it'll cost you ten dollars for five pounds of chicken. You opted to save your cash instead of buying ten chickens while you had the chance, and instead of a hundred pounds of chicken you have ten pounds of chicken and ninty pounds of rubarb, various berries and leaves, about eighty pounds of vitamine bearing water. Your family has to go without chicken dinner for nine straight with only boiled rubarb and acorn gruel. Things will go bad for you.

If you close the accounts now, early, and buy a farm, the nice way, you can get directly to chicken without the morphing paper.

Is that the form we fill out to learn the whereabouts of all the WMD? ;)

women of mad desire? that would be form 69b not 52b
 

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by contrast, unemployment in USA is 6.3%


obviously, Obama is having a better year than Harper ;)


Figures can lie and liars can figure! To draw an accurate comparison there are a number of factors besides the percentages today. Eligibility for E.I. may differ between the two countries and perhaps part of the count is from those drawing E.I. How many drawing E.I. are earning a liveable wage "under the table"? What kind of jobs do the "employeds" have? I would suggest a 1% difference by itself means diddley! -:)
 

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darkbeaver

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Not for a lot of people who just want a part time job! I would agree they would suck for people whose job is their sole source of money.
I don't want no part time job, I just want the money. Stuff yer job. w w ww w work, are you crazy?

If you want to be Nova Scotian you have to live in Alberta.
 

gerryh

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Well now we know why our debt to gdp ratio is higher than Germany's.

IMF Pegs Canada's Fossil Fuel Subsidies at $34 Billion per year

These figures are found in the appendix of a major report released last year estimating global energy subsidies at almost $2 trillion. The report estimated that eliminating the subsidies would reduce global carbon emissions by 13 per cent. The stunning statistics specific to this country remain almost completely unreported in Canadian media.

In comparison to other countries, Canada provides more subsidies to petroleum as a proportion of government revenue than any developed nation on Earth besides the United States and Luxembourg.


You didn't really read this bullshyte "report", did you. There are NO subsidies listed. Not a single one.

The lion's share of the $34 billion are uncollected taxes on the externalized costs of burning transportation fuels like gasoline and diesel -- about $19.4 billion in 2011


You do know what that means in plain language, right?