White Man March: Khaki-clad men march for white pride

Cannuck

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Please provide one example of where I said I supported the Indian Act?

Don't be silly. You are starting to sound like Goober.

Not for me to prove your allegations. That would be you to prove.

Actually it's not. That being said, I have.

Labeling someone online as a so-called racist is weak and slimy, usually a last resort before mentioning the targeted poster's mom. It generally comes from a fragrant beta male or cheeto-stained neckbeard. :lol:

No. Defining racism is not slimy. It is what it is. If people's actions are in line with the definition then it is what it is. People only get their panties twisted over it because they see it as an emotional issue.
 

Sal

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Could you imagine what it would be like if people could choose what colour and what/where/size of their features? Imagine if it could be changed depending on your mood that day.

It would stop "racism".
It would be fun too and would give the old adage "walk a mile in my moccasins" a whole new dimension.

And if people were convicted of racist crimes part of the punishment would be to assume that colour, size, age, etc.

Love the idea.
 

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Don't be silly. You are starting to sound like Goober.



Actually it's not. That being said, I have.



No. Defining racism is not slimy. It is what it is. If people's actions are in line with the definition then it is what it is. People only get their panties twisted over it because they see it as an emotional issue.

Not always. People get their panties twisted, your phrase, really disparaging to women, when false allegations are made.
if you made those allegations at work or in a similar place you would be hung without proof.
You get away with making them here.
But you are filled with insults when discussing the point is beyond you.
 

Cannuck

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Not always. People get their panties twisted, your phrase, really disparaging to women,

Why would that be disparaging to women?

when false allegations are made.
if you made those allegations at work or in a similar place you would be hung without proof.

Perhaps. Fortunately I backed it up but realistically, any adult that understands the definition of racism can easily see it in many of Cliffy's posts. Like I said, his hearts in the right place and that's more than you can say for folks like BL.

You get away with making them here.

I don't "get away with them". Nobody has an intelligent rebuttal. I'm really sorry it bothers you but since Cliffy has indicated his belief in inherent differences between some human races he is, by definition, a racist. It probably escaped you but Cliffy has never denied his view. He's not alone BTW. Most people feel the same as Cliffy.
 

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It probably escaped you but Cliffy has never denied his view. He's not alone BTW. Most people feel the same as Cliffy.
My pappy told me never to argue with idiots because they will beat me with experience. I don't get caught up in other people's dramas either.
 

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Yes, that's fine. But where is the white pride? You're conflating skin colour with culture. Irish culture is not the same as German. That is the question that was posed to you in the first place, you named these as examples of white pride groups. So where is the white pride? Celebrating German cultural roots is not white pride. It is German pride. That is almost so obvious, I don't even know why I have to tell you that.

Semantics is an interesting subject. Words have different meanings to different people. To some "white pride" means white nationalism in the present day sense. To others white pride represents an unbroken connection to a past reaching into the mists of time. It's a matter of connection. Celebrating German cultural roots is a form of white pride in the sense of a cultural connection that provides some people with a connection to their identity.

The First Peoples of North America resemble the First Peoples of Europe in their multitude of identities, but all of those separate identities are unified as one in the eyes of their present descendants seeking to maintain a connection with their ancestors and their ancestors' identities. The Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, Seneca and Tuscarora were each unique, but collectively were part of a Confederation.

Similarly, a unique Pan-European identity was created in America over the course of centuries. It is with this identity that many people feel an abiding connection. This is the sense of white pride of which I speak.

The Han Chinese are another example of a racial group composed of many different groups who have come to consider themselves an ethnicity that celebrates their connection to each other. The same can be said of the Islamic concept of the Ummah.

Connection to one's identity is not the same thing as believing that one's identity is superior to all others. It is an expression of the present connected with the past.
 

Cannuck

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Do you plan to apologize to Cliffy for labeling him a racist?

Why would I apologize? The views he has expressed here clearly fit the definition I provided. Do you have a problem with the definition?

As to why women would, I will not waste my time on the obvious.

You may be the only one it's obvious to. I just asked my girlfriend and two of my daughters and they think you are as silly as I do.
 

Tonington

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Celebrating German cultural roots is a form of white pride in the sense of a cultural connection that provides some people with a connection to their identity.

So you're saying anyone that comes from a group that is predominantly white, that celebrates their cultural heritage, is really a form of white pride? That doesn't make any sense. Germans and Irish, both predominantly white, very different culturally.

In contrast, those celebrating white pride as most recognize it come from a varied collection of cultures. What draws them together is whiteness. What draws people celebrating German heritage together is German heritage. You're conflating the two.

To make your point, it would be better if you could find an example of anyone from the groups you mentioned specifically celebrating their racial heritage as opposed to their cultural identity, rather than you making claims about what they actually are celebrating.

As an example of how the two are conflated, Canada is predominantly white. Does celebrating our Canadian culture equate to white pride? In the affirmative, I would call that a foolish thing to say.
 

Blackleaf

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When are whites discriminated against?

Whites are constantly discriminated against in the modern, PC Western world. You have more rights as a white man in Putin's Russia than you do in Western Europe or North America.




This picture is available as a poster, a mug, a mousemat or a keychain. Show your pride in being WHITE!

 

BaalsTears

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So you're saying anyone that comes from a group that is predominantly white, that celebrates their cultural heritage, is really a form of white pride? That doesn't make any sense. Germans and Irish, both predominantly white, very different culturally.

In contrast, those celebrating white pride as most recognize it come from a varied collection of cultures. What draws them together is whiteness. What draws people celebrating German heritage together is German heritage. You're conflating the two.

To make your point, it would be better if you could find an example of anyone from the groups you mentioned specifically celebrating their racial heritage as opposed to their cultural identity, rather than you making claims about what they actually are celebrating.

Canada and America are not white countries. They are Multicultural countries in which culture is not really shared among groups. Canada will have a white majority for a long time. The white majority in the US is rapidly diminishing. I live in California which is not a white majority polity. California is a tribal polity.

As an example of how the two are conflated, Canada is predominantly white. Does celebrating our Canadian culture equate to white pride? In the affirmative, I would call that a foolish thing to say.

We have different perspectives on what white pride is. Ethnic cultural/political/historical pride is a component element of racial pride, and are both unifying forces for specific groups. It seems to me that you're contending the whole cannot be broken down into its component parts. Culture and race are integrally related. In the US culture/politics/history is not shared by the mainstream of any racial group.

My point in response to one reply to the OP was that white nationalism and white pride are not concentric. I sought to make the point by referring to what I perceive as component elements of white pride. Toward that end I made reference to specific examples of the components.

In the US racial pride is expressed for some groups, but is frowned upon for the celebration of Pan-European culture/politics/history that can be referred to as the traditional culture that prevailed during the eras of Anglo America and Euro America where assimilation prevailed prior to inception of Multiculturalism. There is no explicit or overt traditional cultural or political organization for whites which resemble La Raza or the NAACP. That being the case I felt it necessary to make reference to the components.
 
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DaSleeper

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But But but.....


None of these are considered racist???


•The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
•Black Entertainment Channel
•Black History Month
•Congressional Black Caucus
•Miss Black America
•American Association of Blacks in Energy
•The Association of Black Psychologists
•National Association of Black Accountants, Inc.
•National Association of Black Hotel Owners, Operators & Developers
•National Association of Black Journalists
•National Black Business Council, Inc.
•National Black Chamber of Commerce
•National Black MBA Association
•National Black Nurses Association
•National Council of Negro Women, Inc.
•National Society of Black Engineers
•National Coalition of 100 Black Women
•United Negro College Fund
•100 Black Men of America
•Organization of Black Designers
 

Cannuck

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But But but.....


None of these are considered racist???

They are not "considered" racist though they are and calling them racist gets some people all hot and bothered...right Goober?

If you look at the definition of racism I posted, I think too many people focus on the part about " usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others" which is not a requirement for racism to occur.
 

Cannuck

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Reading your posts is not on my list of important things to do.................

I'm sure it's not. You've never struck me as the kind of person that was interested in learning something. Not to worry though, my post wasn't really directed at you. Carry on
 

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They are not "considered" racist though they are and calling them racist gets some people all hot and bothered.

Those examples that DaS provided are not in and of themselves racist, however, it does evolve into a form of racism the moment that select 'groups' are celebrated in one instance and frowned upon if not directly prevented from another perspective.
 

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They are not "considered" racist though they are and calling them racist gets some people all hot and bothered...right Goober?

If you look at the definition of racism I posted, I think too many people focus on the part about " usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others" which is not a requirement for racism to occur.

No, not me. You make baseless allegations against Forum Members on a regular basis.
You are the number 1 for reporting posts.
Nothing but a Drama Queen.
 

Cannuck

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Those examples that DaS provided are not in and of themselves racist, however, it does evolve into a form of racism the moment that select 'groups' are celebrated in one instance and frowned upon if not directly prevented from another perspective.

If you're a black accountant, why else would you belong to The National Association of Black Accountants if you don't feel your blackness makes you different? That is why The National Association of White Accountants is considered racist.

No, not me. You make baseless allegations

Don't be so silly. They're only baseless to you because you have trouble following the conversation.