White Man March: Khaki-clad men march for white pride

DaSleeper

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I'm sure it's not. You've never struck me as the kind of person that was interested in learning something. Not to worry though, my post wasn't really directed at you. Carry on
You're absolutely right....what I learn from your posts is what to avoid doing just to be a normal human being....
You can now have the last word............
 

Cannuck

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You're absolutely right....what I learn from your posts is what to avoid doing just to be a normal human being....
You can now have the last word............

At least you can admit you aren't a normal human being. You've come along way grasshopper.
 

BornRuff

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But But but.....


None of these are considered racist???


•The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
•Black Entertainment Channel
•Black History Month
•Congressional Black Caucus
•Miss Black America
•American Association of Blacks in Energy
•The Association of Black Psychologists
•National Association of Black Accountants, Inc.
•National Association of Black Hotel Owners, Operators & Developers
•National Association of Black Journalists
•National Black Business Council, Inc.
•National Black Chamber of Commerce
•National Black MBA Association
•National Black Nurses Association
•National Council of Negro Women, Inc.
•National Society of Black Engineers
•National Coalition of 100 Black Women
•United Negro College Fund
•100 Black Men of America
•Organization of Black Designers

You are focusing on superficial things and not on what each organization actually does. An organization is racist if they engage in racist actions, not based on their name or what race their members are.

These white power groups are not racist because they are white. They are racist because they are racist. We have still yet to find a white power group that doesn't engage in a lot of racist stuff.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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If you're a black accountant, why else would you belong to The National Association of Black Accountants if you don't feel your blackness makes you different? That is why The National Association of White Accountants is considered racist.
Don't know about accountants, but I know the National Bar Association (the black lawyers' group) was formed because the American Bar Association didn't allow black members. Might could be a few organisations on the list that started the same way.
 

BornRuff

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Nope. Racism is a doctrine not an action. You have it backwards

Well, no. People can obviously do things that are racist.

People can definitely have racist thoughts, but how would anyone know, or why would anyone care, unless those thoughts manifested themselves in some sort of outward way?
 

Twila

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Whites are constantly discriminated against in the modern, PC Western world. You have more rights as a white man in Putin's Russia than you do in Western Europe or North America.

You should tell that to the disproportionate number of blacks, natives, and hispanics in the north american prison system. They'd say that's daft.
 

BornRuff

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I didn't say they couldn't. What I said was that the thought comes before the action. Racism, by definition is a belief.

umm...

Nope. Racism is a doctrine not an action. You have it backwards

You can discuss the philosophy of racism with someone else if they are interested, but all that we can really judge in the real world is what people do. A thought in someone's head never hurt anyone, and we have no way of knowing what people are thinking, so why worry about it?

What actually affects other people is the things that they say and the actions that they take.
 

Cannuck

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Don't know about accountants, but I know the National Bar Association (the black lawyers' group) was formed because the American Bar Association didn't allow black members. Might could be a few organisations on the list that started the same way.

The reason why doesn't really matter. Having "black group" because you aren't allowed in the white group is still racist. To truly not be racist, a group of black whatchamacallits that aren't allowed into the National Association of Whatchmacalits would start up the National Whatchmacaits Association and allow anybody. While the "white" and the "black" May exist for different reasons, they both may be excluding others based on race and so by definition are racist
 

Cannuck

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umm...



You can discuss the philosophy of racism with someone else if they are interested, but all that we can really judge in the real world is what people do. A thought in someone's head never hurt anyone, and we have no way of knowing what people are thinking, so why worry about it?

What actually affects other people is the things that they say and the actions that they take.

The thought causes the action. Racism will not end by tackling actions, only addressing the doctrine behind it.
 

L Gilbert

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The reason why doesn't really matter. Having "black group" because you aren't allowed in the white group is still racist. To truly not be racist, a group of black whatchamacallits that aren't allowed into the National Association of Whatchmacalits would start up the National Whatchmacaits Association and allow anybody. While the "white" and the "black" May exist for different reasons, they both may be excluding others based on race and so by definition are racist
Really? But a while back I coulda swore you said that being "racist" was a belief. So anyone who retaliates against "racism" by any action of exclusion actually believes in racism? Frackin BS.
An action doesn't necessarily make the doer a believer. If it did, then making separate men's and women's washrooms would make anyone building them or using them sexist.
There's a difference between discrimination, prejudice, and racism, but obviously you can't see it.
 

BornRuff

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The thought causes the action. Racism will not end by tackling actions, only addressing the doctrine behind it.

This would sound really deep if you were sitting around your college dorm talking about how you want to change the world.

In reality though, you are just saying this to rationalize labeling all types of people as racist regardless of what they have actually said or done.

You can't judge someone on their thoughts since we have no way of reading anyone's mind.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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The reason why doesn't really matter. Having "black group" because you aren't allowed in the white group is still racist. To truly not be racist, a group of black whatchamacallits that aren't allowed into the National Association of Whatchmacalits would start up the National Whatchmacaits Association and allow anybody. While the "white" and the "black" May exist for different reasons, they both may be excluding others based on race and so by definition are racist
Umm. . . the NBA allows people to join without regard to race, sex, religion, sexual orientation, etc. Always has. As does the NAACP, by the way.
 

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It seems to me that you're contending the whole cannot be broken down into its component parts.

Not at all. What I'm saying is that the groups you mentioned don't celebrate racial qualities at all. You were the one that brought up semantics. White pride means something very different from what you're discussing here. The example is very clear, when Germans get together to celebrate their German culture, they are celebrating German culture. When people get together to celebrate white pride, they do things like those in the OP, and protest what they see as the destruction of their race. The two are very different.

If you want to be revisionist and try to take back white pride from a group of racists, well I'm all for that, but I would say good luck. Most people recognize white pride as a group of racists, and the language used by groups identifying themselves with the white pride movement is both explicitly and implicitly racist.

To me, white pride is very weird. I feel no pride at all for something over which I have no control.
 

Cannuck

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Umm. . . the NBA allows people to join without regard to race, sex, religion, sexual orientation, etc. Always has. As does the NAACP, by the way.

That's probably why I didn't refer to them.

This would sound really deep if you were sitting around your college dorm talking about how you want to change the world.

In reality though, you are just saying this to rationalize labeling all types of people as racist regardless of what they have actually said or done.

You can't judge someone on their thoughts since we have no way of reading anyone's mind.

Don't be so silly. Of course I can when they tell me what they believe. I think the only reason you think it's deep is because it's over your head.
 

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That's probably why I didn't refer to them.



Don't be so silly. Of course I can when they tell me what they believe. I think the only reason you think it's deep is because it's over your head.

Not what he stated now was it. Try to keep up.