Neil Young blasts Harper government for allowing development of Alberta oilsands

55Mercury

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Northern man better keep your head
don't forget what your treaties said

northern change gonna come at last
now your wagons are circling fast

hedy fry will back me up
sing it, Hedy!

NORTHERN MAAAAAAAAANNNN

lol

I heard ol' Neil put 'em down, yeah
 

taxslave

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We might as well sell all we can before it does become worthless. Just letting it sit in the ground not producing jobs and revenue is much like hanging on to a 2X4 until it rots because you might need it some day.
 

JLM

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Well, lets all cross our fingers that happens sooner than later. Maybe we'll be able to leave a corner of the sandbox as a crap free zone.


I'm not sure oil is quite the villain many make it out to be, as technology in recent years is making advances in cleaning up emissions.
 

Simple Man

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We might as well sell all we can before it does become worthless. Just letting it sit in the ground not producing jobs and revenue is much like hanging on to a 2X4 until it rots because you might need it some day.
Ahhhh...the ol' get it while ya can angle. Some might argue that leaving it where it is would be the path to take when considering an enlightened state of existence. But I guess you're right there...it's all about us after all.
 

taxslave

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Ahhhh...the ol' get it while ya can angle. Some might argue that leaving it where it is would be the path to take when considering an enlightened state of existence. But I guess you're right there...it's all about us after all.

Nothing else on earth uses oil so who would we leave it for? Same for coal.
 

Simple Man

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I'm not sure oil is quite the villain many make it out to be, as technology in recent years is making advances in cleaning up emissions.
Nah,,,oil's not the culptrit. It's the greedy MF'rs tripping over themselves trying to squeeze every last drop out of the globe like there's no tomorrow. Did I miss something? There is a tomorrow right? I may have missed the memo.....
 

Simple Man

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Nothing else on earth uses oil so who would we leave it for? Same for coal.

Hmmmm....somebody else? Seriously...

Tell that to the Kentucky farmers and ranchers in the sixties that watched deep pockets level the landscape around them. They thought it was a blast. They didn't need all that pesky clean water, and hills to block the view anyway.

Ever read Wendell Perry? He's got some great insights regarding coal mining...

I'm all for resource exploitation...as long as that's all that gets exploited.
 

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Nah,,,oil's not the culptrit. It's the greedy MF'rs tripping over themselves trying to squeeze every last drop out of the globe like there's no tomorrow. Did I miss something? There is a tomorrow right? I may have missed the memo.....


Jimmy Carter started that mantra back in the 1970s... Turns out that there is more oil supplies available today than when Carter was whimpering about it drying up.

By the by, the greedy mfers are entirely guided by the demand of the public at large to supply it.

Any thoughts on that unfortunate little reality?
 

Simple Man

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Jimmy Carter started that mantra back in the 1970s... Turns out that there is more oil supplies available today than when Carter was whimpering about it drying up.

By the by, the greedy mfers are entirely guided by the demand of the public at large to supply it.

Any thoughts on that unfortunate little reality?
Yeah, for sure. The demand is simply way the Fvkk over the top. A whole country jam packed with a species that just can't get enough shiny stuff....and the cheaper the better. SIGHHH...I just don't know WHAT I'd do without my hot tub (actually heard that at a party recently....damn near spit out my Captain Morgan)...

The playdough we have to work with is finite yet we live as though it isn't. Why is that? Why do I have to go find a hack because the manufacturer built in a counter that says my printer is T/U after so many pages when there is nothing wrong with it. Why can't a nutcraker work and last me my lifetime? Why are there hoards of kids climbing over mountains of electronic waste in Africa trying to find bits of gold on the contacts instead of going to school.

You're asleep...
 

petros

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Dr. Moore is not a member of Greenpeace.
You're right he is not but he was a co-founder. Does that mean he quit being an environmentalist?
Dr. Moore is just as extreme now as he was when he was with Greenpeace, except on the other side.
When did he stop being an environmentalist?
He's one of those black and white guys, I guess--no grey area
That would be his scientific approach to environmentalism.

Assessing the big picture as it's being taken. He sees the mining operation which is being promoted as an irreversible ecological disaster involving millions of hectares in slow motion and the reclamation process in slow motion

Guess what Poopsie, reclamation starts long before the land is mined. Strip mining is a lot more delicate than you think.

The first people get into the forests are the surveyors who plot and contour the land. Then come the ecologists, biologists, microbiologists, herpetologists, entomologists, botanists, mycologists, hydrologists, ecologists and nosy Indians Kollectively known as Environmental Scientists.

Are they greedy oil hungry Conservatives or are they Green Beans who decided to hit the front lines as soldiers in the war on Global Warming? I worked side by side with these kind of people and the Execs who sit around the campfire singing Kumbaya right along with them for 24 years. Unlike you, they sh*t in their empty weed baggies when done with them. They are hard core environmentalists who love their high paid jobs.

Once they pack up and move on to their next cut, the starving Indians come in and log the forest usually in winter and make a good buck doing so.

Come spring after thaw is when the dozers and loaders come in and pack up the soil and stumps to save for later and let compost for when reclamation begins and the still living soil is replaced back upon the recontoured to original former mine site land that it came from. Then trees are planted and the soil reseed and inoculated with seeds and spores collected prior to the irreversible ecological disaster hit.
But he no longer represetns Greenpeace and hasn't for many, many years. It's disingenuous to state that he is representing the interests of Greenpeace.
As a co-founder he'll always be greenpeace. The losers that showboat didn't think the scientific approach was the right way to approach environmentalism and forced him out.
 
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Cliffy

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So funny! Those who crap on Neil are the ones who are giving him credit. 319 posts trying to discredit a man they claim has no credit. Just by posting you bring more attention to him than you say he is worth. Thanks for the entertainment.