Wynne to Ford: Step aside

IdRatherBeSkiing

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This is just a condemnation of the level of civics educations people are receiving in our schools.

Norm Kelly is an elected official. All members of council were elected by the citizens of Toronto.

All premiers of Ontario held that position by right of being chosen as leader of their party by the members of their party, not by being elected. Nobody in Ontario cast a vote for Dalton McGunity except for people in the Ottawa south riding.

I did not vote for Norm Kelly. He is no doubt elected by one ward of residents as a city councellor but not as mayor.

She is legally the premier of Ontario. But she was not elected as such.
 

BornRuff

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I did not vote for Norm Kelly. He is no doubt elected by one ward of residents as a city councellor but not as mayor.

She is legally the premier of Ontario. But she was not elected as such.

Nobody is elected premier of Ontario. You don't get to vote for that regardless.

Nobody has claimed that Norm Kelly is the mayor. The simple fact of our system in Toronto is that most of the power lies with city council. There are many duties that council traditionally allocates to the mayor, but they are certainly not bound to do so, especially if they have no confidence in the person currently in the office of the mayor. It would be irresponsible of them to allocate jobs to someone that they do not think can carry them out.

So Ford is obviously entitled to carry out all of the roles legally enshrined in the office of the mayor, but if you want to actually get anything done, you really need to talk to the person who actually has influence with city council.
 

taxslave

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I did not vote for Norm Kelly. He is no doubt elected by one ward of residents as a city councellor but not as mayor.

She is legally the premier of Ontario. But she was not elected as such.

Well technically she was. She (?) was elected as an MLA by her riding and as leader of the party by registered party members, who come from all over the province. Remember that in Canada we vote for the person, not the party even if this is not what always happens in practice.
 

petros

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Well technically she was. She (?) was elected as an MLA by her riding .
It's perfectly fine to call her him. Gay men call each other she and her. I hear it all the time. Stuff like;"That George is such a bitch, she's seeing Leon and Mark."
 

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Ford to Wynne:
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Well technically she was. She (?) was elected as an MLA by her riding and as leader of the party by registered party members, who come from all over the province. Remember that in Canada we vote for the person, not the party even if this is not what always happens in practice.

I know that is how it works. But in similar situations, John Turner after Trudeau, Kim Campbell after The Great Muldune, the newly elected leader (and in those cases legal PM) usually has the decency to re-affirm the mandate with an election within short order. They tend not to presume they have the right to govern as benevolent dictator without re-affirming that with a vote.
 

pgs

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This is a case of where a higher level of government will not deal with t miscreant
Ford does need to resign as Mayor his reputation is a drag on Ontario period.
The Premier of Ontario does not need an election to have a mandate if she is a
member of the House and became leader she is the Premier its how our system
works. I can understand the frustration of the the City though they need to know
but the problem is with the Mayor. If he were to meet his responsibility and call
it a day the phone would ring in the Mayors office. People get all hopped up on
this one issue. There are cases in other Provinces where the same thing happens.
Nothing new organizations that behave badly governments distance themselves.
In this case its a city itself. What other city has a Mayor who has the gaul to admit
they have driven drunk, used drugs and abused booze and not resign? That is in
Canada we know about Marion Berry in Washington DC but that's another story.
Wow since when does your vote count in Toronto ?

This is just a condemnation of the level of civics educations people are receiving in our schools.

Norm Kelly is an elected official. All members of council were elected by the citizens of Toronto.

All premiers of Ontario held that position by right of being chosen as leader of their party by the members of their party, not by being elected. Nobody in Ontario cast a vote for Dalton McGunity except for people in the Ottawa south riding.
A direct slap at your premier and education minister I see .
 

JLM

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I have no idea whether Ford should be replaced or not, but the way Norm Kelly was parachuted in there while still calling Ford the mayor was crass ignorance..................either bounce the man or wait for the election for it to happen. It's not just an affront to a political figure but to another human being. Very classless act!
 

shadowshiv

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The sooner we can have an election to get rid of Wynne the happier I'll be. The only reason she's even there is because McLiar, being the coward that he is and knowing that the ship was sinking, ran away like a scared baby.
 

BornRuff

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The only reason she's even there is because McLiar, being the coward that he is and knowing that the ship was sinking, ran away like a scared baby.

At least when he realized that he ****ed up and his continued presence would prevent work from getting done, he left.

What else would you want him to do?