It was mid afternoon, definitely no emergency- just decided to fix a leak that had been happening for months.
Temporary Foreign Workers put 270 Canadians out of work
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It was mid afternoon, definitely no emergency- just decided to fix a leak that had been happening for months.
So what is it that you do that is worth $480 an hour? Do you actually figure at that rate the customer is getting value for his money?
Oh, OK, for $240 I can get a screw permanently tightened. -
So why are Alberta rates so much higher than B.C. Last fall I had my furnace serviced (5 year service), the guy was here for 1/2 an hour or so and the bill was $120. A guy comes once a year to service my water purifier and water softer, he's here for about an hour and charges me $160 including parts. I had an electrician in for an hour and a half installing lights and switches in my basement (cash job) $80 including switches and wire etc.
When it comes to trades these guys have vehicles, office, bookkeepers
and travel, not to mention the cost of tools regardless of the trade they are
in. It all costs money. I have a grandson, who is an electrician, one is a
mechanic, and one ornamental iron worker They are not cheap to hire but
they are worth the job they do after hours or not. And yes if I call them I
pay
and travel, not to mention the cost of tools regardless of the trade they are
in. It all costs money. I have a grandson, who is an electrician, one is a
mechanic, and one ornamental iron worker They are not cheap to hire but
they are worth the job they do after hours or not. And yes if I call them I
pay
No problem here, just wondering why Alberta is 3 to 4 times as much as B.C. and $85 for two minutes is definitely a little beyond the pale. How much wear and tear is there on a tool in two minutes. I may have been born at night but it wasn't last night. -
That's all well and good but what exactly am I getting for $240.00?? That's likely your labour - parts are likely extra and also come with a mark-up so really, its more than the $240. I don't know that you are worth that amount of money - justify it please. I realize your time is worth money but that much? I think that's called "gouging". Emergency calls I understand are extra. I'm just referring to "regular" time.
Explain please - I really wanna know.
JMO
Yep, you bet Dixie Cup. I just wonder where they think we "little guys" can get this kind of money. I don't have $240 an hour coming in so realistically how am I going to pay it out without robbing another resource?
No problem here, just wondering why Alberta is 3 to 4 times as much as B.C. and $85 for two minutes is definitely a little beyond the pale. How much wear and tear is there on a tool in two minutes. I may have been born at night but it wasn't last night. -
That $85 covers their travel to/from your house and fuel etc. It is quite common to see a min 1 hour charge from a tradesman. A lot I know charge $99 for the first 1/2 hour and $99/hr after that. lots will charge $99/hr starting from their shop. If a service tradesman only charged you $50/hr for the time in your house they would all go broke in a hurry. Personally I always was up-front about it and made sure the customer knew there would be a minimum charge before I left the shop.
$240 for half an hour IS gouging Dixie. More common is $99 for the fist 1/2 hour and $99/hr after that. Guys like G aren't any better than others, they just have nicer trucks they want you to pay for. And yes, the mark-up on parts is pretty large for a service-man. I used to buy furnace control boards for between $115-160 and sell them for $300-400. Thermocouples cost $45 for a box of 6 and sold for $40/ea.
Bet you never told a customer up front you were going to charge them $85 for two minutes to turn a screw. LOL
It's news like that that makes me appreciate my electrician who charges me about $50 an hour and provided parts at roughly his cost.
Actually I did. I would tell them it was $89 for me to show up whether it took me 2 minutes or 29 minutes to fix the issue. Parts were extra and there was GST on everything. When people would complain to me I would explain I was a business not a charity and invite them to call any other guys in the phonebook who would charge them $100-125 to show up.
THE CASE FOR A CONSTRUCTION MOBILITY TAX CREDIT
Canada’s Building Trades Unions have been urging the federal government to introduce a Construction Mobility Tax Credit for decades. Now industry is joining us in calling for change.
- The Canadian Construction Association represents more than 17,000 construction companies across Canada.
- Construction Labour Relations–Alberta (CLR-A) represent construction companies throughout Alberta.
The Construction Mobility Tax Credit would give skilled construction workers a personal tax exemption for expenses they incur to temporarily relocate for work. The exemption would allow workers to deduct any work-related travel expenses not reimbursed by their employers.
Why is mobility important?
Construction is Canada’s largest private-sector industry. Its direct impact on the economy is immense:
- Construction accounts for 12 percent of Canada’s GDP.
- The industry has more than 260,000 businesses.
- It employs more than a million Canadians.
- It is responsible for installing, repairing and renovating more than $150 billion worth of infrastructure every year.
The labour shortage challenge
Between 2013 and 2021 the construction industry needs to recruit 252,000 new construction workers to meet expansion and replacement demand. The industry is expected to attract 152,000 entrants through sustained programs aimed at traditional and non-traditional groups including women, Aboriginal people and immigrants. It will still need an additional 100,000 workers to avoid labour shortages.
Even if the construction industry succeeds in recruiting sufficient workers, mobility will continue to be an issue
The labour mobility challenge
Access to a highly skilled construction workforce is particularly important to the resource industry. The industry is pivotal to the Canadian economy and many large resource projects are located in remote, sparsely populated areas of the country.
Over the coming decade demand for skilled construction workers is expected to be strongest in the resource sector, with peak demand shifting from one region to another as large projects start up and wind down.
- Resource projects in Newfoundland and Labrador
- Shipbuilding in Nova Scotia and British Columbia
- Mining projects in Northern Ontario’s Ring of Fire area
- Utility construction in the Greater Toronto Area
- Mining projects in Northern and rural Saskatchewan
- Oil Sands and infrastructure projects across Northern Alberta
- Mining and utility projects in Northern British Columbia
Why institute a Construction Mobility Tax Credit?
The construction industry can partially solve skills shortages by encouraging more workers to temporarily relocate.
Construction workers are used to leaving their homes and families to work at distant sites for periods of time. A 2007 Construction Sector Council study found that 70 percent of surveyed tradespeople travelled to find work at least once in their careers. It also found that the cost of temporary relocation is the one of the biggest impediments to working mobile.
Figures compiled on behalf of Canada’s Building Trades Unions show that the average mobile worker spends approximately $3,500 of his or her own money to temporarily relocate. Employers rarely reimburse workers for these costs.
A Construction Mobility Tax Credit would remove one of the largest barriers to labour mobility and pave the road for workers to move more freely between regions of the country where their skills are in most demand.
Legislative background
The federal government has had two opportunities to consider a construction mobility tax credit. The Member for Hamilton-Mountain, introduced the credit in a Private Member’s Bill C-227 in 2006, and reintroduced it as Bill C-201 in 2013.
The bill would give skilled construction tradespeople a personal tax exemption on travel and accommodation expenses incurred for working at job sites more than 80 kilometres away from their homes. The credit would only apply to costs paid for by workers and not reimbursed by employers.
The Standing Committee on Human Resources, Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities supports the concept. In 2008, the committee recommended that the Income Tax Act be modified to provide for a tax credit for workers who must leave their principal residence to work on a temporary basis, provided that they maintain their primary residence.
Who would benefit?
Workers would benefit from reduced relocation costs and increased employment opportunities.
Employers would benefit from access to larger pools of qualified workers, and reduced costs relating to participation in programs such as the Temporary Foreign Worker program.
The Government of Canada would benefit from increased long-term income tax revenues and reduced dependence on costly social programs. The tax credit could yield a return on investment of nearly 5:1 for the Government of Canada.
What should government do?
We propose that the Government of Canada adopt a construction mobility tax credit, similar to the one proposed in Private Member’s Bill C-201, on a trial basis through 2015. (The Member for Hamilton-Mountain has agreed to withdraw her bill if the government agrees to create similar legislation of its own or if included in Federal Budget 2014.)
We expect that a three- or four-year pilot project to test this initiative will demonstrate conclusively that a Construction Mobility Tax Credit is sound public policy that will yield significant benefits for workers, employers and government alike.
BCTD Canada - Putting Canadians First
Yes, Canadians should have first pick on raping and pillaging the land.
Screw you foreigner!!!
If we are going to turn our own country into a unliveable
Wasteland, I say, at least let it be self inflicted.
And in 20 years it'll be all gone, and done.
Just living the dream.
Westerner's are so dumb they even make Quebecers look and sound like geniuses
Laugh out loud
Screw you foreigner!!!
If we are going to turn our own country into a unliveable
Wasteland, I say, at least let it be self inflicted.
And in 20 years it'll be all gone, and done.
Just living the dream.
Westerner's are so dumb they even make Quebecers look and sound like geniuses
Laugh out loud