I kick such a kick out of the 'realists' that are under the impression that the Earth (and it's systems) are supposed to be static - never ever changing (despite all kinds massive swings before man and the interweb came along)
Our cooling world
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Next we'll be told the temp is actually going down; bunch o' loony lefties.
Global warming is just HALF what we said: World's top climate scientists admit computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Mail Online
Global warming is just HALF what we said: World's top climate scientists admit computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong | Mail Online
Climate changes happened over 'Geologic time' , not five year cycles. that said, climate warming probably BENEFITS Canada on the whole. Opens up the Ontario Clay belt as a new Breadbasket.
Really benefits Greenland farmers... lots of irrigation water!
Well, we've been tracking this over decades.. The variations in the temps have been marginal on a year over year basis.
Nice try on the dooms-day scenario, but the only place that will have any traction is at the Oscar Awards
Yeah, it's a booming sector that is feeding the entire world
I thought that in your Darwinian world, if the poor can't eat that is their fault...
Anyhow on farming in Greenland:
Arctic Harvest: Global Warming a Boon for Greenland's Farmers - SPIEGEL ONLINE
the Clay belt is actually a pretty large potential Agricultural area.
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I thought that in your Darwinian world, if the poor can't eat that is their fault...
Whose fault is it?... Is there a cabal of eevvvviiiiiilllll tycoons demanding that they sell their 9 y/o daughter for food?
Whew!.. That was close.... They will be feeding the world in no time at all
Mid-summer weather in mid-September is definite proof of the ongoing global cooling...as is the continuing melting of the worlds ice cover.
And cold wet weather all summer in Quebec, Ontario and Manitoba with the overflow on every hydro-electric dam wide open all summer had nothing to do with all that water pouring into Hudson Bay and the artic ocean to change the melting of any ice.......Naaah!
Global Warming is the radiative forcing of the atmosphere by the increase of greenhouse gases and other human activities, climate change is the result.
Weather and climate are the result of hugely complex interactions, all we can say with confidence is that changing the radiative balance by keeping more solar radiation in the global system longer is that it will drive it into a different and most likely more energetic state. Which is likely why things have been so chaotic in the last decade or so, and why it's most likely going to get worse before it gets better. There's at least three decades of heating before the atmosphere comes back into radiative balance and that gets extended every year as we put more CO2 into the atmosphere.
What we're seeing now is probably tame compared to what's coming.
You could pour water into Hudson's Bay for 20 years from all the surrounding land before it would make an iota of difference to the Arctic Ocean.
The Arctic Ocean is quite a few ice cubes. -
Not to mention after a couple of months of thawing in Northern Quebec and Ontario, the freeze up starts again.
Think outside the box, During normal water levels, only the water going through a dam to feed the turbines is from the (bottom) of the river (colder).The Arctic Ocean is quite a few ice cubes. -
With the high water this year all the water I see when I walk through the park here in town comes through the overflow on (top) of the dam (warmer) .
OK, you likely know more about it than I do. I was just thinking of about 6 months of the year when there is very little thawing in the northern climes and lots of freezing. I would imagine the ice on the Arctic Ocean is pretty thick and any thawing in the summer would only involve the top few inches. Of course at the bottom the temp is 4C all year round.
It's also abut flow and how the water mixes with the huge amount of water already in the Hudson's Bay and Arctic ocean. There's also the salinity issue, fresh water freezes at a higher temperature, so even if it's warmer going into the ocean, it could actually cool things down a bit by freezing sooner and acting to reflect more sunlight. Open water absorbs about 90% of sunlight and clean ice reflects about the same amount.