Justin True Dough: Greediest Grifter in Parliament

prairieboy

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Yep, I'd be awfully surprised if he makes Prime Minister! Better to stick with what we've got!

I agree. If the liberals ever want to reinstate themselves in this country. They will need substance, and experience. Not bashing Justin, but he does not have those attributes. The liberals are going to need a Pit bull to beat Stephen Harper. He is probably hoping they elect Justin, so he can rip him a new #^%*. Marc Garneau looked okay, a couple of women argued good also.
 

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I also agree any politician who is an MP, MLA, Municipal, County or otherwise, should not be paid extra for speeches or anything else. A lot of travel and accommodation expenses seem very ‘iffy’ as well. (Even if they’re invited to speak somewhere outside their riding.) If my West Edmonton MP, MLA, is invited to speak anywhere in the province of Alberta, they should never be allowed to claim for travel expenses or accommodation. They already receive extra money for travel. Accommodation? What’s wrong with staying with the MP, MLA, etc. from the host city that invited them?? City Councillors..?.. Yes, them too.
(Whoa, sorry, stupid me… staying with someone doesn’t cost anything and it’s not staying in a 5 star hotel. And no $16.00 glasses of orange juice)
When government(s) are in session, I also believe that any politician that misses a meeting, a vote or otherwise, for no ‘GREAT’ reason, (i.e. hospitalization, death in family) should be penalized. There are too many missed meetings in all levels of government for no good reason.
As Serryah said, all politiciansare working for us 365/52/7/24”, they better be available at the drop of a hat. And be able to get to meeting as soon as possible. If government is in session, they are not to be doing anything ‘on their own time’.

It is appropriate for a politician to stay in a hotel when traveling. In many ridings the local MP/MLA may live several towns away or may not even be in the riding at the time. Once you get out of the cities there are no 5 star hotels anyway.
There are also legitimate reasons why a politician may not be in parliament other than being on their deathbed. There may be something important happening in their riding or in the case of ministers they may be out of the country on business.
 

gerryh

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I agree. If the liberals ever want to reinstate themselves in this country. They will need substance, and experience. Not bashing Justin, but he does not have those attributes. The liberals are going to need a Pit bull to beat Stephen Harper. He is probably hoping they elect Justin, so he can rip him a new #^%*. Marc Garneau looked okay, a couple of women argued good also.


I'm hoping your attitude prevails within the cons, Brazeau thought the same thing.
 

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God NO, not a Justin Trudeau apologist, didn't we as Canadians get enough of this greedy self-centreed family when his egotistical, narcissistic father was around. It was all about him you know!

We as Canadians are in really big trouble if we are ever dumb enough to elect another Trudeau as PM. The only thing his as-hole father was concerned about was Quebec and the French.
I was around when P. E. Trudeau unleashed his havoc on Canada, with promising Quebec he would turn Canada into a French speaking nation. If he were alive today, and I could speak to him, I would ask him the question, "How's that working for you, considering the statistics are virtually unchanged since he made that declaration. He and his Quebec henchmen also declared Canada to be a multinational country, in an effort to dillute the English influence on Canada, which was also a colossal failure, because immigrants including the hundreds of thousands from Asia, are flocking to language schools to learn what language? Why English of course! Most Canadians aside from those racist bigots in Quebec and New Brunswick saw the writing on the wall, and we stuck with what has worked for centuries for Canada in dealing with the world, we speak English, the international language of business. Quebec in their rage brought in Bill 101 in order to discriminate against their English minority, but now that leave poor New Brunswick, bankrupt and forced to spend money on propping up a dying langauge. Healthcare and Education can go down the drain as far as the Acadians are concerned as long as they get their way, with threats of going to court. Present and Past Premiers are scared to death of losing the Acadian vote so instead they would rather bankrupt the whole province. Face it Acadians you are fighting a losing battle, and in the end it will be Acadians who end up as the big losers, regardless of what Michel Basterache, and Michel Doucet tells you, and when there is no money left at all, logic takes over. Many potential unilingual English taxpayers have already exited NB, and they are not gong to come back, including both of my sons who left for Calgary. They will not be returing to help NB try to bail itself out of the financial mess they are finally seeing themselves, in large part because of "Official Bilingualism.". You're on your own, sick or swim!
 

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Many restaurants are now just adding a 15% tip onto your restaurant bill.. I think that's the way to go..

To many people are just chronically cheap.. and waitresses/waiters live off their tips.

Oh yeah... and

 

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Many restaurants are now just adding a 15% tip onto your restaurant bill.. I think that's the way to go..

To many people are just chronically cheap.. and waitresses/waiters live off their tips.

Oh yeah... and


I have a bit of a problem with that one although I do generally give 12-15%, but I believe a tip is paid for good service and should be up to the person receiving the service whether it was good or not and I think it's highly presumptuous that someone else make that decision. I've run across a few restaurants where that happens but unfortunately for them I get to make the last decision, that being that I won't be going back. So F**K them! -:)
 

gerryh

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Many restaurants are now just adding a 15% tip onto your restaurant bill.. I think that's the way to go..

To many people are just chronically cheap.. and waitresses/waiters live off their tips.


I normally tip 20%-30%..... last time I was at red lobsters, they stuck the 15% tip on and that was all they got. We let the manager know that he just cost his staff by adding the tip on and that it was doubtful we would be back there again. A tip is for service, period, and I decide if I have had good service, not the server.
 

JLM

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Many restaurants are now just adding a 15% tip onto your restaurant bill.. I think that's the way to go..

To many people are just chronically cheap.. and waitresses/waiters live off their tips.

Oh yeah... and


I have a bit of a problem with that one although I do generally give 12-15%, but I believe a tip is paid for good service and should be up to the person receiving the service whether it was good or not and I think it's highly presumptuous that someone else make that decision. I've run across a few restaurants where that happens but unfortunately for them I get to make the last decision, that being that I won't be going back. So F**K them! -:)
 

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If memory serves, when one becomes an MP or MLA one must put their assets in a blind trust so their position theoretically can have no influence. This being the case Just In , or any other politician for that matteris breaking that rule because by charging for a speech he is having a direct influence on his business.


I am amazed that you manage to 'conflate' both rules.
WE appear to be dealing with a 'Magic Justin' pulled out of the hat as needed.
He's:
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1. Too shrewd a businessperson- saw a market niche- went for it.
2. Way too naïve- no business sense.

3. Way too smart- he evaded a 'Tory Trap' at grace Harbour. (The local Tories are suddenly off the seniors' home board.)
4. Way too dumb - not sure WHY this come sup- but, oh, well....

WAY too ahead in the public opinion polls. Where's the 'Reform Party recall mechanism now?
 

karrie

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Many restaurants are now just adding a 15% tip onto your restaurant bill.. I think that's the way to go..

Why would that be the way to go? Pay a decent wage, charge a decent price... SO much simpler! Like the Japanese restaurant in New York that made the news by getting rid of tipping.
 

JLM

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Why would that be the way to go? Pay a decent wage, charge a decent price... SO much simpler! Like the Japanese restaurant in New York that made the news by getting rid of tipping.

It's a good thought Karrie, but I'm not sure it would "fly". What do you consider to be a decent wage for waiting tables? I really don't think there's much room to raise prices much more. Once in a blue moon you see a Mum and Pop operation, where prices are really reasonable, so If prices went up they would just siphon off more of the business and people would be happy to give generous tips. Some of these restaurants now are charging $10 for a hamburger, which generally includes fries and/or some cold slaw.
 

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How about just having a prime minister and government who gets the job done. Have we ordered the new fighters to replace the aging F-18s yet? Is Harper saving that decision for the next government? The cost of the F-35s turns out to be about three times what the conservatives budgeted for. I doubt Harper's record will get the next gang of Conservatives elected.
 

JLM

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How about just having a prime minister and government who gets the job done. Have we ordered the new fighters to replace the aging F-18s yet? Is Harper saving that decision for the next government? The cost of the F-35s turns out to be about three times what the conservatives budgeted for. I doubt Harper's record will get the next gang of Conservatives elected.

We already have had one long, expensive dose of a Trudeau, do we really need another? Charisma and crowd pleasing does not necessarily a good prime minister make!
 

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Many restaurants are now just adding a 15% tip onto your restaurant bill.. I think that's the way to go..

To many people are just chronically cheap.. and waitresses/waiters live off their tips.

I find there are places, that after adding 15-18% still get miffed when you don't add something more to the still present TIP line on the bill. If only negative numbers worked ...
 

hunboldt

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We already have had one long, expensive dose of a Trudeau, do we really need another? Charisma and crowd pleasing does not necessarily a good prime minister make!


Again= you are pulling ' Majik Justin' out of the bunny hat.

Face it- the speakership business was pretty shrewd and lucrative.. The man has entrepreneurial drive and vision.

Ohhhh - I forgot. Liberal making money in the private market sector is a 'non no' uh uh bad bad with you
 

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Pierre Elliot Trudeau's Accomplishments

PET was well respected in the world and he helped put Canada on the map while he was in power. He had a vision for Canada...unlike our current PM.

Trudeau's Accomplishments??

The War Measures Act is listed as an accomplishment???

As is the Official Languages Act and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms??

I don't think "accomplishment" means what they think it means.

:)
 

hunboldt

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- Now we learn that the apple didn't grow far from the tree (and the sap) insofar as being a greedy, grasping, money conscious weasel is concerned.

- I for one do not begrudge Justin Trudeau the trust fund now worth $1,242,000 that his old man provided for him so that he was taken care of and could bum around and dabble in various things in his 20s and 30s.

- Nor do I begrudge young Justin the $10,000 a year in royalties he receives from PET's books or the vintage mercedes-benz convertible bequeathed to him by Pierre or the luxury summer chalet and the lavish Montreal mansion high atop Mount Royal that he shares with his other two siblings.

- But I do begrudge him the leadership of a major political party and possibly the entire country based on absolutely no qualifications, experience or accomplishments other than being the son of the former prime minister. Canadians certainly deserve better than this lightweight space cadet at the helm of our ship of state.

- And I also begrudge him the $277,000 he has made as a public speaker SINCE he was elected as an MP in 2008.

- You see, folks, Justin the drama and english teacher has been making big money since 2006 through a speakers bureau, trading on his famous name as he has traded on it for everything else he has received thusfar in life.

- Justin pulled down $290,000 in speakers fees in his first year in the business, 2006, and he scored $462,000 in his best year, 2007.

- In 2008, Trudeau was elected as a Liberal MP and as such was expected to somehow get by on a paltry $170,000 a year plus several other allowances and perks bringing the equivalent total compensation up to roughly $235,000 a year.

- But no, this was not enough for our greedy, grasping, tight fisted weasel always in search of True Dough!

- Because it is legal, Justin Trudeau has actaully continued to charge for many of his public speeches and has made over $277,000 in speakers fees since he was elected as a member of parliament.

- There is not a single leading member of parliament nor, as far as I can determine, any member of parliament in the House of Commons who charges Canadians for his public speeches other than, of course, the charges inherent in the rather sizable pay, perks and pensions proferred in the position.

- Every MP who has been interviewed about this issue has opined correctly that an important part of an MP`s job is to frequently meet and communicate with the public, without charge, on the issues and challenges and opportunities and policy choices of the day.

- But then few if any MPs are as greedy bastards as PET was and Justin so obviously is.

- Is anybody here prepared to argue that Justin Trudeau is right to charge thousands of extra dollars or even a single penny (make that nickel now) over and above his MP`s compensation as recompense for speaking to the public.



Ho Ho Ho

Another Internet wordsmith dripping envy.

EVERY ONE of these engagement contractors, including the now removed CONS From the Grace Harbour home board, knew EXACTLY what his fees were. Its CALLLED BUSINESS INTHE FREE MARKET.


Get it??? BUSINESS CONTRACT..ENTREPRENEUR- GET IT???
NAH YOU DON'T GET IT.