Zimmerman NOT guilty

Locutus

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The day that I begin to even suspect that you would tolerate a grown man strapping on a gun and following your 17 year old son around his neighbourhood, I'll listen to your views of what a child is or isn't. But I know darn well there is not a single poster on here, who were they the parent to Trayvon Martin, would tolerate having their teenager threatened and followed in the manner he was. 'widdle kid' is moronic. But he most certainly wasn't an adult, living at home in a gated community and posting on Twitter. Hard core.

I'm very surprised you'd be so resistant so as not read (or were even unaware it existed all these many months) Trayvons Twitter history karrie. 'Widdle' is a stretch as far as 'child' is. It's ridiculous eh.

Read the feed then get back to me.
 

karrie

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I'm very surprised you'd be so resistant so as not read (or were even unaware it existed all these many months) Trayvons Twitter history karrie. 'Widdle' is a stretch as far as 'child' is. It's ridiculous eh.

Read the feed then get back to me.

I don't understand why you feel reading a twitter feed will change his age, or my opinion about whether he deserved to die.

See, here's the thing... justice isn't a popularity contest. So, reading the contents of his feed, or Zimmerman's feed, are irrelevant.

An unarmed 17 year old was shot dead by a grown man after he followed him and confronted him. That's what's relevant.
 

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You Are Not Trayvon Martin

His death wasn’t about race, guns, or your pet issue. It was about misjudgment and overreaction—exactly what we’re doing now to the verdict.

Trayvon Martin is dead, George Zimmerman has been acquitted, and millions of people are outraged. Some politicians are demanding a second prosecution of Zimmerman, this time for hate crimes. Others are blaming the tragedy on “Stand Your Ground” laws, which they insist must be repealed. Many who saw the case as proof of racism in the criminal justice system see the verdict as further confirmation. Everywhere you look, people feel vindicated in their bitter assumptions. They want action.

But that’s how Martin ended up dead. It’s how Zimmerman ended up with a bulletproof vest he might have to wear for the rest of his life. It’s how activists and the media embarrassed themselves with bogus reports. The problem at the core of this case wasn’t race or guns. The problem was assumption, misperception, and overreaction. And that cycle hasn’t ended with the verdict. It has escalated.

have a go

Trayvon Martin verdict: Racism, hate crimes prosecution, and other overreactions. - Slate Magazine
 

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An unarmed 17 year old was shot dead by a grown man after he followed him and confronted him. That's what's relevant.
Apparently you're not dealing with the brightest of people here. Dull and creepy to honest if you support a killer and blame the dead.
 

karrie

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You Are Not Trayvon Martin

To highjack that notion...
Yes, I AM Trayvon Martin.

I am a private citizen, who should be allowed to walk in my neighbourhood unmolested by the dispensing of untrained justice from other private citizens. I will never tolerate being followed home by a stranger, and have been taught by a dozen different self defense sources, NEVER EVER to lead a stranger who is harassing me, to my front door. I would attempt to evade, and if that failed, I would fight in the open. I would not give an armed stranger the luxury of access to my home.

My son is Trayvon Martin, and I would NEVER tolerate private, armed citizens, deciding if he is a criminal or not. I would not tolerate him being threatened, followed, or harassed by an adult male, and if he reacted the same way I've been taught to react to such a threat, by standing his ground, not leading a threat into your home, then I would defend his right to do so.

Every single citizen of every western nation, deserves better than a half cocked, gun toting, small-man, deciding who lives and who dies in their neighbourhoods.
 

Locutus

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Bill Maher Booed for Tasteless Zimmerman Jokes on CBS Late Show

Right after Maher was introduced by David Letterman, the host mentioned that he was a minority owner of the New York Mets.

“Better than being a minority in Florida,” responded Maher to boos from the studio audience.

“Why are they booing?” he asked.

A bit later, Maher said, “You know they want to give George Zimmerman a gun now. The Florida state law is that he can get his gun back.I say if he gets a gun, Casey Anthony gets a baby.”

This was quickly met with groans from the studio audience.

“What is with the booing tonight?” Maher asked.

Even Letterman seemed disgusted as he sat in silence to audience laughter.


Oh that Bill...he's one funny guy.


 

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A seventeen-year-old who is not an emancipated minor (Martin was not) is a child, or an "infant," at law. The fact that a seventeen-year-old can serve in the military, and can be charged as an adult in certain circumstances, does not change that.

I do like the implication that Trayvon Martin committed a crime, though. Pretty clever the way you slipped it in. Well done.

I did not imply that at all but whatever gets you excited.

I understand you are still smarting from yesterday and it will take some time to recover.
 

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He f*cking killed a kid that he was stalking because he got the sh*t beaten out of him. Blame the dead kid? That's the chicken sh*t way out.

What sort of losers would support a f*cking killer?

It is called SELF DEFENSE.

He was NOT stalking the kid except in your twisted little delusions.

The Kid was doing him serious damge.

BANG was the only solution.

Pull your head out of your ****.

EVERY SINGLE security guard on earth has followed people hundreds of times....it is not illegal, and it is not reason for someone to attack.
 

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When did Zimmerman turn into a security guard?

Sigh

He was a person with security responsibilities, according to the community.

Not that it matters, as security guards have absolutely NO more authority than any other person.......they are civilians, exactly like Zimmerman, or any other person.

A seventeen-year-old who is not an emancipated minor (Martin was not) is a child, or an "infant," at law. The fact that a seventeen-year-old can serve in the military, and can be charged as an adult in certain circumstances, does not change that.

I do like the implication that Trayvon Martin committed a crime, though. Pretty clever the way you slipped it in. Well done.

"Infants" between the ages of 14 and 17 years old, murdered 1,546 people in the USA in 2004, the last year for which I have figures.

That is a rate of 9.1 per 100,000, significantly HIGHER than the rate in the general population.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf
 

karrie

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He was a person with security responsibilities, according to the community.

Not that it matters, as security guards have absolutely NO more authority than any other person.......they are civilians, exactly like Zimmerman, or any other person.

No. They are NOT civilians like any other person. They are trained. The are in a uniform. They face expectations like identifying yourself as a security guard, not just following a person. They ALSO presumably understand that should they fail to do any of that, a person is reasonably going to fear for their safety while being followed. They also understand that the onus is on them to maintain a level head, and that a scared 17 year old who has no idea of the situation, is NOT predictable.

He was not comparable to a security guard. If he was, in any way shape or form, then security guards need to be f'ing outlawed, as they are hazard to public safety.
 

petros

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It is called SELF DEFENSE.

He was NOT stalking the kid except in your twisted little delusions.

The Kid was doing him serious damge.

BANG was the only solution.

Pull your head out of your ****.

EVERY SINGLE security guard on earth has followed people hundreds of times....it is not illegal, and it is not reason for someone to attack.
How did they get in a confrontation without Zipperman following him and provoking him? Is Zipperman a security guard? Why was he out alone playing cop?

8O..........HEY FOLKS !!!

He's still not guilty.
Did the not guilty plea raise the dead?

What is rule number one of neighbourhood watch? Never go alone. Rule 2 Never follow Rule 3 never confront.

You've never done neighbourhood watch before have you?

Are you that big of wimp that you'd shoot somebody you provoked into a fight because you were getting sh*t kicked?
 

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No. They are NOT civilians like any other person. They are trained. The are in a uniform. They face expectations like identifying yourself as a security guard, not just following a person. They ALSO presumably understand that should they fail to do any of that, a person is reasonably going to fear for their safety while being followed. They also understand that the onus is on them to maintain a level head, and that a scared 17 year old who has no idea of the situation, is NOT predictable.

He was not comparable to a security guard. If he was, in any way shape or form, then security guards need to be f'ing outlawed, as they are hazard to public safety.

Karrie, you are way out of your area of expertise here........

Not all guards are uniformed. Floor walkers, for instance, are not, and follow people every day. I only WISH they were all trained, here in NB there is no requirement for training. In Canada, guards ONLY have to identify themselves in the process of arresting someone.

Guards have no more authority than any other person,. they can only do citizen's arrests, just like you can......
 

petros

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Karrie, you are way out of your area of expertise here........

Not all guards are uniformed. Floor walkers, for instance, are not, and follow people every day. I only WISH they were all trained, here in NB there is no requirement for training. In Canada, guards ONLY have to identify themselves in the process of arresting someone.

Guards have no more authority than any other person,. they can only do citizen's arrests, just like you can......
He wasn't a guard. He was community watch which works in groups and never alone. They never follow, never confront and they never try to apprehend.

You've never been in community watch have you?