Fed up with Islam Yet???

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What rape, murder and genocide?

Muhammad abided by extremely strict rules of engagement. Even in the Qur'an he makes it clear that if the enemy stop fighting, the Muslims must too right away, and that no innocents were to be attacked.

He strived for peace but was attacked from all sides.

Rape, murder including mass murder was committed by all sides.
 

L Gilbert

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So when was the last time the Baptists flew a plane into a sky scraper??

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Fourteen traditionalist shamans about to form a shamanic school and association were murdered in Peru over a period of several months prior to October 2011. The murders were allegedly committed by, and/or at the behest of, the local mayor and a group of other evangelical Christians. The mayor's brother was known in the area as a matabrujos or witch killer. The Peruvian government continues to investigate."

Or planed to derail a Via train??
"Hutaree was a Christian militia group based in Adrian, Michigan. In 2010, after an FBI agent infiltrated the group, nine of its members were indicted by a federal grand jury in Detroit on charges of seditious conspiracy to use of improvised explosive devices, teaching the use of explosive materials, and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence. On March 28, 2012, the conspiracy charges were dismissed. Terrorism scholar Aref M. Al-Khattar has listed The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, Defensive Action, The Freemen Community, and some "Christian militia" as groups that "can be placed under the category of far-right-wing terrorism" that "has a religious (Christian) component".

Or plotted to behead the PM??
Abortion clinic bombings. Plots to kill abortionists.

Or planned to set off a car bomb in the Jewish section of Montreal??
"Yigal Amir's assassination of Yitzhak Rabin on November 4, 1995 has been described as terrorism with a religious motivation. Amir was quoted as saying he had "acted alone and on orders from God." and that "If not for a Halakhic ruling of din rodef, made against Rabin by a few rabbis I knew about, it would have been very difficult for me to murder." A former combat soldier who had studied Jewish law, Amir stated that his decision to kill the prime minister was influenced by the opinions of militant rabbis that such an assassination would be justified by the Halakhic ruling of din rodef ("pursuer's decree"). This Jewish religious concept allows for an immediate execution of a person if that person is "pursuing", that is, attempting immediately to take your life or the life of another person, although the characterization of Rabin as din rodef was rejected as a perversion of law by most rabbinic authorities.[13]:255 According to Amir, allowing the Palestinian Authority to expand on the West Bank represented such a danger. Amir was associated with the radical Eyal movement, which had been greatly influenced by Kahanism."

There are none so blind as those that refuse to see.
So that's why you wear those dark glasses.
Sorry, but it isn't me that lets hate blind me.

Christian blind people always claim that the Christians who kill aren't real Christians but who is to say that Mohammed was really a true Muslim following the Muslim god's directives? And who says that ANY Christian follows Yeshua's suggestions without fail?
Get a grip.

Jesus Christ didn't, which is the point.
lol There's no definitive and irrefutable evidence that Yeshua actually existed as mentioned in your Bible.
And Christians do regardless of whatever Yeshua wanted. Christians hate, get jealous, go into rages, kill, get greedy, etc.
 

Machjo

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So when was the last time the Baptists flew a plane into a sky scraper??

Or planed to derail a Via train??

Or plotted to behead the PM??

Or planned to set off a car bomb in the Jewish section of Montreal??

There are none so blind as those that refuse to see.

And what verse of the Qur'an or ahadith approve of such actions?

Look at how many Christian clergy have been involved in sex scandals. Does that mean the Bible approves of such behaviour?

Rape, murder including mass murder was committed by all sides.

But Colpie suggested that Muhammad himself was involved in it and approved of it. yet to reveal his source.
 

Dexter Sinister

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And what verse of the Qur'an or ahadith approve of such actions?
Read the book, there are several English translations around, it's full of exhortations to jihad and killing unbelievers, the enemies of Allah, and gloating references to the horrors awaiting them in the next life. I think there are only two statements in it that can be taken as urging civilized behaviour, one about respecting what it calls the People of the Book (i.e. Jews and Christians), and another about waging war only in defence of Islam. The latter at least can be readily rationalized to justify carrying a war of aggression to the enemies of Islam wherever they're perceived to be. I don't know how they weasel around the former, but true believers have never found it difficult to rationalize whatever they want to do in the name of their belief.

If you can't get hold of the Quran, try Sam Harris' little book, The End of Faith, he describes in detail, with verse references, what the Quran says on these matters. Failing that, read the first five books of the Old Testament and imagine Jews and Christians behaving exactly and literally as prescribed there, that'll give you an idea of the flavour of the Quran.
 

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Venstre to unhappy Muslims: "Find somewhere else to live"

Muslims who show no interest in adopting Danish values ought to think about why they settled in Denmark in the first place, the immigration spokesperson for leading opposition party Venstre argued in an opinion piece published in Politiken newspaper today.

In her piece, Inger Støjberg criticises Danish Muslims who actively try to shield themselves from Danish values and norms and who think that their religious beliefs should not be allowed to be mocked.


more


http://cphpost.dk/news/immigration-amp-denmark/venstre-unhappy-muslims-find-somewhere-else-live

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That girl who was shot in the head by the Taliban delivered a remarkable speech today at the UN.
 

Locutus

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UN Delegate Says There Is “No Such Thing As Islamic Terrorism”…

Kinda funny until you realize he’s being serious.
GENEVA – Nations attacked the West for wrongly associating Islam with terrorism at a June 19-21 international conference in Geneva organized by the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, part of the U.S.-Turkish led “Istanbul Process,” an intended Western-Islamic framework for détente created by a 2011 UN Human Rights Council resolution to “combat intolerance, discrimination and incitement to hatred and/or violence on the basis of religion or belief.”

The 3rd International Expert Meeting on the Follow-Up and Implementation of HRC Resolution 16/18 was held at the United Nations headquarters in Geneva. The previous meeting of the Istanbul Proces was hosted by then U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Washington, D.C., in December 2011.

Keep reading…


http://weaselzippers.us/2013/07/15/un-delegate-says-there-is-no-such-thing-as-islamic-terrorism/

 

Locutus

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Thanks to Cat Stevens:


TDSB Islamic Resource OK's "Gently" Beating Disobedient Wives, Says Gays & Lesbians Are Predators



Contrast this with high school gym classes, where boys will often shower together, usually in complete nudity. The same happens in girls' locker rooms. Parents and Muslim communities must be on guard against these types of situations, which are not only dangerous to a young Muslim's Islamic practice, but can also make them the prey of gays and/or lesbians.

If people were born to commit homosexual acts, Allah who is most Merciful, would not have destroyed Prophet Lut's community. These people had an opportunity to change. They did not, and Allah destroyed them. This is a test Shaytan puts in our way.


Blazing Cat Fur: TDSB Islamic Resource OK's "Gently" Beating Disobedient Wives, Says Gays & Lesbians Are Predators
 

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I've read the Qur'an cover to cover, and in fact believe it to be the word of God. I can say though that when read in context, it is clear that the Qur'an addresses defensive war, not wars of conquest.

Of course many Muslims have corrupted the meaning of the Qur'an, but that is a separate matter.

Are you sure?

Answering Muslims: Qur'an in Context 1: "Fight Those Who Do Not Believe" (Surah 9:29)

Also, didn't they attack some tribe who were completely taken by surprise? Doesn't sound very defensive. And didn't they attack the Romans towards the end of Mohammad's life? They had to travel way far to get to them. How was that defensive?

And Christians haven't? lol Mohammed was only human just like you, Inquisitors, etc.

He may have been human, but he is also revered by Muslims as the perfect role model, whom all should strive to emulate.

Meh. Christians like their Yahweh (according to the Bible, this god killed more than 10 million people). Christians are still killing in the name of their god regardless of whatever Yeshua propounded.

Just a tiny minority of extremists who hijacked the religion. They are not true Christians.
Sound familiar? lol

... yet relatively few of the Islamic faith engage in jihad. No understanding? lol No exaggeration there, huh?
But keep your blinders on, Colpy. It's sometimes comical.

Relatively few engage in direct military jihad. Engaging in supporting that military jihad is obligatory upon all Muslims, according to Islam.