Calgary flooding could force up to 100,000 from homes (video)

JLM

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Every year there is a disaster of one form or another .
Everybody knows (except you obviously ) that $400 million gets you almost nothing today in any disaster!!

Sometimes there is better uses of money than to save it for a disaster, like maybe using it to clear debris from culverts and catch basins! Hindsight is always 20/20! -:)
 

gerryh

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Calgary might want to take a look at what Los Angeles did with their river. Looks like hell - but doesn't flood a lot


ya, and if calgary was the end of the line like LA, that would be fine. Calgary isn't the end, and anything we do, we have to take into consideration both up and down stream.
 

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Sometimes there is better uses of money than to save it for a disaster, like maybe using it to clear debris from culverts and catch basins! Hindsight is always 20/20! -:)
That's always done here as a matter of course,,, you dumbo!!!
 

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ya, and if calgary was the end of the line like LA, that would be fine. Calgary isn't the end, and anything we do, we have to take into consideration both up and down stream.
Like I don't know Calgary is midstream?... You have only two choices if you don't want wet feet - hurry it through and let it flood downstream or catch it upstream and release it slowly. Either way isn't going to earn friends.
 

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This was a one in 100 year rainfall.
The next level lower is 1 in 50 yr flood.

I think we can live with it as it is, we only have to have more alert organizations that don't sleep at the switch !!
 

gerryh

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Like I don't know Calgary is midstream?... You have only two choices if you don't want wet feet - hurry it through and let it flood downstream or catch it upstream and release it slowly. Either way isn't going to earn friends.


I dont know a lot of calgarians that would be willing to screw their neighbour for a little more comfort.
 

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This was a one in 100 year rainfall.
The next level lower is 1 in 50 yr flood.

I think we can live with it as it is, we only have to have more alert organizations that don't sleep at the switch !!

Durry- may I suggest 'basic statistics'??

A wet cycle is a repeat cycle- it could flood again 'next year'

Ohhh - Tories.....
 

hunboldt

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No it won't. It does not fall into a Standard Deviation !! You understand Stats..eh !!

The only 'standard deviation' involved here is when you got your aunt preggers:p

Alberta has wet And dry climate cycles.
the people to 'fire ' are the silly puddings that failed tp build the powderface gap flood dam , or the Morley flats flood control dam. Or the pine coulee diversion channel.
 

hunboldt

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Does weather?


What Durry fails to see is that you can't apply a Poisson distribution to a single point- only to a repetitive event. That is why most 'non oil' geophysical and Agriculture companies have quietly moved out of downtown into the industrial parks on 'high ground' in Calgary.

Canada post, for example, sold their Downtown Calgary building to the Homburg group, butr retained the VMPP because the VMPP drains well, and water plus mail does 'not mix'. If you want to keep downtown Calgary, you need flood control structures upstream- just like 'Texas'. the Brazos and Colorado are dotted with half empty reservoirs , even during a wet season. And Austen does not flood out.

Ohh- heck. It was probably 'Gods will' teaching us a lesson for our sins.
Right , durry??
 
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Alberta flooding history

CALGARY (June 1897) Bow River rises about five metres turning downtown into a lake, washing out bridges, short-circuiting electricity and cutting Canadian Pacific's line to Vancouver.

CALGARY (June 1915) The Bow washes away Centre Street Bridge, nearly drowning two city officials. Sheep Creek floods Okotoks and cuts gas mains, leaving Calgarians without cooking fuel.

CALGARY (June 1923) The Elbow River breaks the 1915 record by 20 centimetres when it rises to 2.9 metres. The Bow River, though it rises 1.5 metres above normal, is still about .6 metres under the 1915 record height.

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A few more photos (that I took)







street level, police car in distance

 

hunboldt

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Alberta flooding history

CALGARY (June 1897) Bow River rises about five metres turning downtown into a lake, washing out bridges, short-circuiting electricity and cutting Canadian Pacific's line to Vancouver.

CALGARY (June 1915) The Bow washes away Centre Street Bridge, nearly drowning two city officials. Sheep Creek floods Okotoks and cuts gas mains, leaving Calgarians without cooking fuel.

CALGARY (June 1923) The Elbow River breaks the 1915 record by 20 centimetres when it rises to 2.9 metres. The Bow River, though it rises 1.5 metres above normal, is still about .6 metres under the 1915 record height.

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Alberta flooding history

Excellent point.
you have three closely spaced events. The diffe3rnece now is we have a densely valued Downtown that costs heavily for every day it is shut down.
I had the good fortune in 2001 to spend tow days with a flood control engineer. YOU EITHER DAM AT THE FORGETMENOT GAP- OR YOU LOSE LOWER CALGARY periodically.



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JLM

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ya, and if calgary was the end of the line like LA, that would be fine. Calgary isn't the end, and anything we do, we have to take into consideration both up and down stream.

You need a good map, Sonny. L.A. is a stop on the way to such places as Tijuana, Mexico City, Bogota, Sao Paulo and Buenas Aires!

That's always done here as a matter of course,,, you dumbo!!!

And I've seen some places where it wasn't...........you Dumbo!!! I think you are an A.H. just like Gerry!