Conservatives accuse Justin Trudeau of profiting from not-for-profits

Machjo

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Colpie, Trudeau voluntarily revealed his finances to the public, and hats off to him for that. Even before the black ops he was being criticized for it already. And no, taxpayer money should not be used for partisan politicking.
 

petros

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Presuming that this conspiracy theory is true, it simply goes to show that JT was out witted, out gunned and out manoeuvred by a far better strategist.

Chess player vs kid playing checkers
You're bang on when saying it is a game. It was an extremely well played attack with perfect timing although there has been some heavy casualties to some of the pawns on team Con in the process that has reached all the way down to provincial MLAs.

A heavy hit with far to much slop splashing back on the Cons. They made the mistake of showing their @sses which leaves team Lib knowledgeable and able to counter the shown @sses in future duels.
 

Machjo

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Justin Trudeau was making high profile speaking engagements with charities for money, whether or not that puts him in a position of conflict of interest is up for debate. Trudeau is not alone in making money this way and not just in Canada.

On the other hand you have Harper who once again is using taxpayer resources to engineer partisan attacks on opponents, and trying to do it from concealment as the PMO requested to remain unnamed in the story.

However, consider his poor showing in the House. Certainly his priority ought to be to be present during debate, no?
 

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Just heard on the news that Bob Rae has pulled the pin. He was probably the best chance the Liberals ever had.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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However, consider his poor showing in the House. Certainly his priority ought to be to be present during debate, no?

Yes, because the House gets so much respect these days.

Harper runs the country out of the PMO to the point his own MPs are rebelling and fights most of his battles in the media and behind the scenes often using the resources of the PMO. Justin Trudeau isn't perfect, I also don't think he'd be anywhere near as dictatorial or vicious as what we have now for a PM.
 

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It's not Harper's government it's ours.
No, WE elected Harper to lead us, WE gave him a strong majority to use his leadership and economic skills to lead us through a difficult global financial mess!!

He has done a great job, we are one of the strongest G8 countries, financially !!!
But like in any organization there are always a handful you cannot please, usually they are not very bright or objective!!
 

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petros

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No, WE elected Harper to lead us, WE gave him a strong majority to use his leadership and economic skills to lead us through a difficult global financial mess!!

He has done a great job, we are one of the strongest G8 countries, financially !!!
But like in any organization there are always a handful you cannot please, usually they are not very bright or objective!!
We isn't exactly a truth. Thanks to public disdain the voting turn out was extremely low. It was only a mere 6Million voters (myself included) to give Harper his majority.

I'm far more disappointed by the lack of public participation than I am with who was elected.

As far as the strength of the economy, that was induced by Liberal policies and a sh*tload of RMBs from the Chinese to fund the Action Plan. The next PM whether it's Con or Lib will be riding that wave as well.

There is nothing to gloat over when it comes to the economy.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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No, WE elected Harper to lead us, WE gave him a strong majority to use his leadership and economic skills to lead us through a difficult global financial mess!!

He has done a great job, we are one of the strongest G8 countries, financially !!!
But like in any organization there are always a handful you cannot please, usually they are not very bright or objective!!

Do you even understand the Parliamentary system, we didn't elect Harper for anything nationally. The voters of his riding elected him as their MP and by virtue of the fact that his party sent a majority of MPs to the House he received the position of Prime Minister. The first of the ministers in the House where the power in Canada is supposed to reside, not in some pseudo-executive PMO branch run by un-elected officials even his own MPs like Brent Rathgeber have had enough of.

And he's quite likely creating more problems for the future than he's "fixing" now. As a matter of fact most of his governing seems to be fixing the facts, who knows what really going on in OUR government anymore.
 

Machjo

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Yes, because the House gets so much respect these days.

Harper runs the country out of the PMO to the point his own MPs are rebelling and fights most of his battles in the media and behind the scenes often using the resources of the PMO. Justin Trudeau isn't perfect, I also don't think he'd be anywhere near as dictatorial or vicious as what we have now for a PM.

CK, I'm not defending Harper here. I'm just pointing something out about trudeau. Why is it that any agreement with an MP or criticism of an MP on any point is immediately assumed to be a partisan statement?

I'll compliment or criticize any MP independently of his party affiliation. I don't care what party he parties at.
 

petros

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Why is it that any agreement with an MP or criticism of an MP on any point is immediately assumed to be a partisan statement?

I'll compliment or criticize any MP independently of his party affiliation. I don't care what party he parties at.
It's a natural response by Spastics of all stripes.

It's worthy of a head shake and a sigh of disappointment.
 

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@ Zipperfish and CK

Put simply, 'it is what it is'.

Like it or not, JT is in this position due to his own actions and all the other Parties are simply offering a drowning man an anvil to help him along.

Trial by fire boys, that's how politics works

I don't think JT is in that bad a position myself. Looked bad for him initially, didn't turn out to be that bad. The Conservatives will likely be looking for another angle of attack given the Wallin audit will be released soon. And the Tory motto "The best defence is a good offence!" :lol:

That doesn't work for narcissists in positions of power

I've heard Harper called many things, but "narcissist" is a new one. personally, I don't think it fits.
 

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Do you even understand the Parliamentary system, we didn't elect Harper for anything nationally. The voters of his riding elected him as their MP and by virtue of the fact that his party sent a majority of MPs to the House he received the position of Prime Minister. The first of the ministers in the House where the power in Canada is supposed to reside, not in some pseudo-executive PMO branch run by un-elected officials even his own MPs like Brent Rathgeber have had enough of.

And he's quite likely creating more problems for the future than he's "fixing" now. As a matter of fact most of his governing seems to be fixing the facts, who knows what really going on in OUR government anymore.
Well your just going to have to learn to get over it, Harper is PM with a majority!! FULL STOP !!

The Parliamentary System has not changed since the Libs held power!!

Harper is still fixing the screw ups of 13 years of do nothing Libs,,,,except maybe gay marriage!! Libs like this kind of thing!!
 

Colpy

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Justin Trudeau was making high profile speaking engagements with charities for money, whether or not that puts him in a position of conflict of interest is up for debate. Trudeau is not alone in making money this way and not just in Canada.

On the other hand you have Harper who once again is using taxpayer resources to engineer partisan attacks on opponents, and trying to do it from concealment as the PMO requested to remain unnamed in the story.

There is no debate about any official conflict.....Trudeau cleared his speaking tours with the Ethics Commissioner before they happened.

The debate is about their propriety....not their legality.
 

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CK, I'm not defending Harper here. I'm just pointing something out about trudeau. Why is it that any agreement with an MP or criticism of an MP on any point is immediately assumed to be a partisan statement?

I'll compliment or criticize any MP independently of his party affiliation. I don't care what party he parties at.

Considering this is thread about an attack campaign against Justin Trudeau being orchestrated by the PM through the PMO, I think it is partisan to add weight to it.

Harper isn't working in our interests in attacking Trudeau this way, he's single-mindedly eliminating an opponent and using our resources to do it.