Is Slick Willie Clinton Really Father of the Year?

earth_as_one

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Clinton never should have been asked the question during the Paula Jones lawsuit in the first place. Instead of lying, he should have refused to answer the question.

Also, technically Slick Willy never lied:

During the deposition, Clinton was asked "Have you ever had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky, as that term is defined in Deposition Exhibit 1?" The judge ordered that Clinton be given an opportunity to review the agreed definition. Afterwards, based on the definition created by the Independent Counsel's Office, Clinton answered "I have never had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky." Clinton later stated, "I thought the definition included any activity by [me], where was the actor and came in contact with those parts of the bodies" which had been explicitly listed (and "with an intent to gratify or arouse the sexual desire of any person"). In other words, Clinton denied that he had ever contacted Lewinsky's "genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks", and effectively claimed that the agreed-upon definition of "sexual relations" included giving oral sex but excluded receiving oral sex.[25]
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But Clinton adversaries often ignore that technicality.

IMO, what a public figure does in their private life is not my business, and |I'd prefer not to know. What he did with Lewinsky was between him, Lewinsky and his wife. Clinton never lied to start an unprovoked war which killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people unlike your hero and war criminal George W. Bush. In fact if giving George W. Bush a blow job could have avoided an unprovoked war and hundreds of thousands of senseless deaths, I'd have been willing to donate money to buy Bush the services of a high priced hooker. Maybe more US Presidents should get blowjobs as it seems to save lives.
 

karrie

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The most interesting part of this is that everyone's hung up on the marriage.

Anyone here ever divorce? Did it make you a bad parent? Does staying married and never cheating on my husband make me a good mom?

Like I said in the other thread, the dinner's a ploy anyway, and they don't even make any bones about it. It's an occasion to pay big bucks for a charity dinner, in order to hear someone you admire speak. It's not truly about Clinton or his parenting, he's just the draw.
 

petros

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P ... Clinton was not impeached due to his regular blow jobs from his young staff but rather he was impeached because he lied
That's not why. Google and try to find the real reason. if you can't, I'll tell you.

The most interesting part of this is that everyone's hung up on the marriage.

Anyone here ever divorce? Did it make you a bad parent? Does staying married and never cheating on my husband make me a good mom?
The best parents are the ones who are brutally honest with their kids. If there is nothing hidden from children, they won't hide anything from you which makes trust a given and effortless.
 

earth_as_one

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That was my philosophy too. If they are old enough to ask the question, then they are old enough to get an honest answer... I just wouldn't volunteer information unless I thought they were ready for it.

When I took my kids on vacation to Disneyland, we made a side trip to Key West for a couple of days. I never knew it was an overtly Gay area. So my 9 and 7 year old asked a couple of questions about the behavior of adults. We talked about homosexuality, they said OH? and went back to playing on the beach and never paid much attention to the lesbian couple holding hands or the gay men kissing.
 

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- G ... Yes, I used to be a player but the differences between Zipper Billy Clinton and me were that I grew up and went monogamous the year I turned forty while Billy never did grow up and screwed around in the governor's mansion, the white house, etc., that I never lied under oath or on television (and I have had occasion to do both) while Billy was a serial liar about his serial adultery, that I have had a faithful, loving marriage of 27 years now and he has a marriage/merger of mutual political convenience and, that he has been chosen as a father of the year and I have not.

- Why are you so hostile to air force officers?

Not hostile- Was humor - My cousin was a General in the Air Force.
 

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Not hostile- Was humor - My cousin was a General in the Air Force.

- G ... Thanks for the clarification. On this board, I find it difficult to tell whether someone is being humorous or hostile and in my case it seems to be usually the latter. My late father was a flying instructor who never lost a pilot whether on Harvards or T33 jets in WWII and during Korea and dad taught the last Canadian air force general to become Chief of The Defence Staff until a few weeks ago - General Paul Manson - to fly on the old Harvard trainers at the now long closed air base at Claresholm, Alberta in the mid 50s. If your cousin was Paul Manson, please email me.

- We spent 1952 and 1953 at Claresholm and at Fort MacLeod while dad was an instructor. I was in grades three and four at the time. I remember that there was a rabis outbreak in Fort MacLeod the year we lived there and that there seemed to be a million German Sheppards (maybe from the old days when Fort macLeod was the headquarters for the Northwest Mounted Police) and some of them would follow us on our walks to and from school. They never bit me but they did bite my sister who got rabis from the bite and had some painful needles and other treatments to recover from it all.

- In 1980-81, I returned from Toronto to manage the Calgary branch of a consulting firm (the long gone H.V. Chapman and Associates) and decided one weekend to take my fiance and drive south to Fort MacLeod and especially tom have dinner at the wondefrful wild game restaurant The Flying Inn which was a converted hanger on the old air base at Claresholm and to which the high rollers literally flew in on their prviate planes to land on the old runway and partake of the great patrifdge, pheasant, grouse, quail, bison and other game. The restaurant had slipped some over the years after the original owner died and was in its last year when we dined there but it was still wonderful food. It was in August of 1980, exactly one year after The Chief John Diefenbaker had died in Ottawa, and being in Diefenbaker country I thought a toast to The Chief was in order. So I stood up and gave one. A few minutes later, another diner who, like me, had had a relative who once worked with Dief approached me and gently pointed out that this was August 9th and that Dief had actually died a week later on Augist 16th. And so went another of my embarrassments, neither the first nor the last.
 
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Goober

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- G ... Thanks for the clarification. On this board, I find it difficult to tell whether someone is being humorous or hostile and in my case it seems to be usually the latter. My late father was a flying instructor who never lost a pilot whether on Harvards or T33 jets in WWII and during Korea and dad taught the last Canadian air force general to become Chief of The Defence Staff until a few weeks ago - General Paul Manson - to fly on the old Harvard trainers at the now long closed air base at Claresholm, Alberta in the mid 50s. If your cousin was Paul Manson, please email me.

Correction- Should have been Colonel- Heard he had been promoted - the last time we had contact was in 96.
He was decorated twice by the US- Once by President Reagan.
 

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Considering what an ugly kid Chelsea was I'd say he should get an award for not putting her in a burlap bag and tossing her into the river.


Ugly???? What have you been drinking????




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Clinton wasn't impeached for lying. He was impeached because the Repukeblicans wanted to disrupt his agenda. They may have won that battle but in the long run Clinton won by being the most influential campaigner in 2012.
 

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- What a silly, silly bastard you can be, totally unable to defend the indefensible except to engage in sgtill more ridiculous attacks on and accusations about me. Where and when have I ever extolled some right wing despot and who was said despot? In actual fact, I reject despots of both the right like Pinochet and Hitler and the left like Mugabe and Mao. What about you?
lol I wasn't defending anyone; just commenting on your constant sniveling about anyone positioned left of you (which seems to pretty much include everyone on the planet). :)

- It reminds me of a joke my fellow airforce officers told back in the early 70s about PM Trudeau. PET was flying in an air force transport plane over Saskatchewan when he turned to his wife and said "I think I'll throw a $10 bill out the window and make some farmer happy!". (This was a major moment for PET because he was a cheap SOB with his own money and once sued the town council where he had his cottage for overtaxing him by $8 that year.) Margaret thought for a second and responded, "Pierre, why don't you throw two $5 bills out the window and make two farmers happy?". The Flight Sargeant - steward standing a few feet behind them whispered to himself, "Why don't you throw yourself out the window and make everybody happy?".
lol I like that. Got any Bullroney jokes? Harpy jokes?

- P ... Clinton was not impeached due to his regular blow jobs from his young staff but rather he was impeached because he lied - get it, HE L-I-E-D - both under oath to a grand jury and several times to the American people on national television about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. Many people including a majority of the members of the House of Representatives at the time and a near majority of members of the Senate rightly believed that the chief law officer of the flipping country ought not to lie under oath or on television or to the congress, is unfit to hold the office of president if he does so, and must be removed from office if he is proven to have done so.

- Similarly, it was not the unsuccessful two bit, third rate Watergate burglary that led to Nixon's impeachment trial and resignation but the fact that he got caught LYING to the American people on television as well as lying to members of congress about not knowing about and not going along with the cover up attempt.
If every president that ever lied was impeached, there'd have been a lot more than just 44 of them. Politicians lie; it's SOP for them.
 
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