China criticizes US Human Rights Record in Report

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Always shilling for Dictatorships- Your hatred of the US knows no bounds.

I oppose US foreign policies which screw over people, through unprovoked wars, illegal abductions, torture and support of ruthless dictators and ethnic cleansing. I suspect many Americans would oppose their foreign policies if they actually knew or cared. But most Americans react like you... attacking the messenger.

You don't seem to care that Canada was complicit in the torture. You seem more upset that I agreed with ES regarding the fact that Canadian soldiers captured militants in Afghanistan and then turned some of them over to local authorities knowing they would be tortured.

I don't like where Harper is leading Canada. We used to be a force for peace and justice. Harper would like Canada to be a war machine that supports injustice and oppression. That's why I'd like to see Harper defeated in the next election. I miss the old pre-Harper conservatives, who were just about class war fare and transferring wealth from the lower and middle class to the top 1%.

Pretty soon China will almost be able to criticize Canada's human rights record without looking hypocritical.
 

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That's it ; the whole world is waiting for the answer . ( smile)

You insinuated you knew what you were talking about. I wanted to give you a chance but you'd rather keep your foot in your mouth. Enjoy!

I oppose US foreign policies which screw over people, through unprovoked wars, illegal abductions, torture and support of ruthless dictators and ethnic cleansing. I suspect many Americans would oppose their foreign policies if they actually knew or cared. But most Americans react like you... attacking the messenger. .....

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Hey China, were you born in China? How much do you really know about that country based on personal experiences?
Nope ,Born in Gdansk Poland , citizen of Canada since 1967 .Lived in China since 2002 till 2010 with a "little break" of 6 month in Australia. In China I wasn't a tourist , I was a part of the " working force".I have represented the president of one of the largest compound fertilizer companies and marketed the fertilizer between the Inner Mongolia and Hainan .At the same time I had a chance to produce ( and sell ) my own fertilizer .I have seen allot of China,have encounter its good side ,its bureaucracy and met the beautiful people who shared with me their experiences .
I write what I know from the people of China or from what I have experienced in this
historical country .
 
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Nope ,Born in Gdansk Poland , citizen of Canada since 1967 .Lived in China since 2002 till 2010 with a "little
break" of 6 month in Australia. In China I wasn't a tourist , I was a part of the " working force".I have represented the president of one of the largest compound fertilizer companies and marketed the fertilizer between the Inner Mongolia and Hainan .At the same time I had a chance to produce ( and sell ) my own fertilizer .I have seen allot of China,have encounter its good side ,its bureaucracy and met the beautiful people who shared with me their experiences .

The Chinese govt is filled with rot and corruption. And they fear the masses, justifiably so. There is a reason many have passports for other countries.

The time is coming for a revolution within China and it will not be pretty for the ruling class. Building massive infrastructure projects that will not be used just to keep the money flowing, people employed.
 

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I oppose US foreign policies which screw over people, through unprovoked wars, illegal abductions, torture and support of ruthless dictators and ethnic cleansing. I suspect many Americans would oppose their foreign policies if they actually knew or cared. But most Americans react like you... attacking the messenger.

You don't seem to care that Canada was complicit in the torture. You seem more upset that I agreed with ES regarding the fact that Canadian soldiers captured militants in Afghanistan and then turned some of them over to local authorities knowing they would be tortured.

I don't like where Harper is leading Canada. We used to be a force for peace and justice. Harper would like Canada to be a war machine that supports injustice and oppression. That's why I'd like to see Harper defeated in the next election. I miss the old pre-Harper conservatives, who were just about class war fare and transferring wealth from the lower and middle class to the top 1%.

Pretty soon China will almost be able to criticize Canada's human rights record without looking hypocritical.

As usual you post a thread to troll. Does the US have human rights issues- Yes- Does Canada - Yes-

How do they compare to China - vast difference- but you with your hatred, that blinds any reason will use anything to attack the US.

Why did the Chinese start criticizing US Human Rights. Not hard to figure that one out. Do you need help with that? I can help.
 

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The Chinese govt is filled with rot and corruption. And they fear the masses, justifiably so. There is a reason many have passports for other countries.

The time is coming for a revolution within China and it will not be pretty for the ruling class. Building massive infrastructure projects that will not be used just to keep the money flowing, people employed.
The Chinese govt is filled with rot and corruption.

So is the Canadian Government ,so was the Icelandic government before it was replaced by the people , so is this and that governments.
Bible states ...."you see a speck in your brother's eye but you don't see a log in your own eye ,
I say ...." you're fu..en blind "!
 

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The Chinese govt is filled with rot and corruption.

So is the Canadian Government ,so was the Icelandic government before it was replaced by the people , so is this and that governments.
Bible states ...."you see a speck in your brother's eye but you don't see a log in your own eye ,
I say ...." you're fu..en blind "!

Are you stating that the Canadian Govt is as corrupt as the Chinese Govt? Yes or No.
 

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are you stating that the canadian govt is as corrupt as the chinese govt? Yes or no.
maybe

The time is coming for a revolution within China and it will not be pretty for the ruling class. Building massive infrastructure projects that will not

A Pew survey published this week suggests Chinese people are upbeat about the future direction of their nation. In 2002, only 48% of Chinese people surveyed were "satisfied" with it; today, 86% are. In 2002, 52% rated the Chinese economy as "good"; today, 82% do. Although many respondents recognise that China's "traditional way of life is getting lost" as it leaps from creaking Stalinism to gleaming modernity, 71% said they like the "pace of modern life". Only 3% think China's global economic influence is negative.

Ninety-six per cent of respondents think the Olympics will be successful and 79% describe the games as "important to me personally". Chinese people know their country has problems – rising prices, the rich/poor gap, corrupt officials, air pollution and unemployment – but they seem generally, and inspiringly, optimistic about the future. Good for them.

These Pew findings contrast dramatically with western attitudes to China. Where Chinese people seem happy with the economic progress of recent years, western observers see only its downsides. China is described as a "rapidly advancing dystopia where rivers run black", where the widespread use of "the dirtiest fuel of all" – coal – is putting the planet on "the fast track to irreversible disaster". Many fret that Chinese demand for more stuff – meat, fridges, cars and other apparently outrageous luxuries – is contributing to the food price crisis and the warming of the planet.

Some claim that China's thoughtless economic rise is causing job losses in America and Europe, or even that China's cheap toys and even cheaper dog food are choking our children and poisoning our pets. When it was discovered that some Chinese toys had relatively high levels of lead paint, fears were expressed in the US about American children's IQ possibly being lowered as a result of chewing on these "toxic" toys.

Many in the west regard the games as an opportunity to berate China. Simon Jenkins says he hopes the Olympics will expose "the true nature of the Beijing regime". Some want them relabelled the "Genocide Olympics" in reference to China's relationship with Khartoum. Others call on Gordon Brown and George Bush to use the Olympics to pressurise China to reform. There's no question that China remains an authoritarian regime, but what earthly right do Brown or Bush have to lecture anyone about authoritarianism? People in the moral gutter cannot take the high ground.

No doubt some will argue that the Pew survey results simply show that Chinese people are too scared to give honest answers to pollsters, and that western observers can take a more sophisticated, critical and objective view of China's dirtiness and wickedness. This is self-deceiving pomposity. In truth, the difference between Chinese attitudes and those of western commentators reveals what really lies behind the China debate today: a tussle over modernity itself.

From the old cold war brigade in the US to trendy green groups in Europe, China has been transformed into the whipping boy of the 21st century, an "all-purpose rogue state", as Mark Leonard describes it. Much of this fear-mongering is driven by western distaste for progress. Many see in China the "mistakes" that we in the west have already made: industrialisation, the expansion of cities, skyscraper-building, mass migration, the rise of a consumer society. Our own doubt about these historic gains for humanity means we look at China and see its awe-inspiring development as something dirty, dangerous or duplicitous.

Slowly but surely, the western elite's self-loathing of recent years is transforming into a loathing of China, which is seen to represent everything that is rotten about "western-style" modernity. Anyone with an ounce of humanism should challenge the demonisation of the Chinese and instead share in their optimism about the future. Whatever the killjoys in Islington and DC might say, it is an unalloyed good that Chinese people's material lives are improving; let us hope their political lives rapidly improve, too.
 
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The time is coming for a revolution within China and it will not be pretty for the ruling class. Building massive infrastructure projects that will not be used just to keep the money flowing, people employed.

A Pew survey published this week suggests Chinese people are upbeat about the future direction of their nation. In 2002, only 48% of Chinese people surveyed were "satisfied" with it; today, 86% are. In 2002, 52% rated the Chinese economy as "good"; today, 82% do. Although many respondents recognise that China's "traditional way of life is getting lost" as it leaps from creaking Stalinism to gleaming modernity, 71% said they like the "pace of modern life". Only 3% think China's global economic influence is negative.

Ninety-six per cent of respondents think the Olympics will be successful and 79% describe the games as "important to me personally". Chinese people know their country has problems – rising prices, the rich/poor gap, corrupt officials, air pollution and unemployment – but they seem generally, and inspiringly, optimistic about the future. Good for them.

These Pew findings contrast dramatically with western attitudes to China. Where Chinese people seem happy with the economic progress of recent years, western observers see only its downsides. China is described as a "rapidly advancing dystopia where rivers run black", where the widespread use of "the dirtiest fuel of all" – coal – is putting the planet on "the fast track to irreversible disaster". Many fret that Chinese demand for more stuff – meat, fridges, cars and other apparently outrageous luxuries – is contributing to the food price crisis and the warming of the planet.

Some claim that China's thoughtless economic rise is causing job losses in America and Europe, or even that China's cheap toys and even cheaper dog food are choking our children and poisoning our pets. When it was discovered that some Chinese toys had relatively high levels of lead paint, fears were expressed in the US about American children's IQ possibly being lowered as a result of chewing on these "toxic" toys.

Many in the west regard the games as an opportunity to berate China. Simon Jenkins says he hopes the Olympics will expose "the true nature of the Beijing regime". Some want them relabelled the "Genocide Olympics" in reference to China's relationship with Khartoum. Others call on Gordon Brown and George Bush to use the Olympics to pressurise China to reform. There's no question that China remains an authoritarian regime, but what earthly right do Brown or Bush have to lecture anyone about authoritarianism? People in the moral gutter cannot take the high ground.

No doubt some will argue that the Pew survey results simply show that Chinese people are too scared to give honest answers to pollsters, and that western observers can take a more sophisticated, critical and objective view of China's dirtiness and wickedness. This is self-deceiving pomposity. In truth, the difference between Chinese attitudes and those of western commentators reveals what really lies behind the China debate today: a tussle over modernity itself.

From the old cold war brigade in the US to trendy green groups in Europe, China has been transformed into the whipping boy of the 21st century, an "all-purpose rogue state", as Mark Leonard describes it. Much of this fear-mongering is driven by western distaste for progress. Many see in China the "mistakes" that we in the west have already made: industrialisation, the expansion of cities, skyscraper-building, mass migration, the rise of a consumer society. Our own doubt about these historic gains for humanity means we look at China and see its awe-inspiring development as something dirty, dangerous or duplicitous.

Slowly but surely, the western elite's self-loathing of recent years is transforming into a loathing of China, which is seen to represent everything that is rotten about "western-style" modernity. Anyone with an ounce of humanism should challenge the demonisation of the Chinese and instead share in their optimism about the future. Whatever the killjoys in Islington and DC might say, it is an unalloyed good that Chinese people's material lives are improving; let us hope their political lives rapidly improve, too.

Time is coming. Mark my words - do the research- all it takes is one spark- with the wrong action taken. May take 5 or 10 years but unless change happens it is a definite- The Politburo is split between those that want a tougher line to others that want to change the direction of the country towards to the rule of law. Whoever wins during the next few years will decide that fate of China.


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Time is coming. Mark my words - do the research- all it takes is one spark- with the wrong action taken. May take 5 or 10 years but unless change happens it is a definite- The Politburo is split between those that want a tougher line to others that want to change the direction of the country towards to the rule of law. Whoever wins during the next few years will decide that fate of China.


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Tunisian revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There are changes happening in China everyday , no , every MOMENT ...and the changes are for the better .You don't see it and obviously I can't change your mind . But than I truly don't care about your opinion or your prophecy regarding China .If that troubles you so much ,why don't you go to China and find out for your self what the truth is.
 

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There are changes happening in China everyday , no , every MOMENT ...and the changes are for the better .You don't see it and obviously I can't change your mind . But than I truly don't care about your opinion or your prophecy regarding China .If that troubles you so much ,why don't you go to China and find out for your self what the truth is.

I do see it- I also see that within the Communist party there is a stark division on which road to take. The Pary is fighting this out as we speak.

If change does not happen, if the govt continues in this way then revolution is coming.
 

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What do Chinese people think about their communist government?
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do you enjoy living in a prison and don't enjoy freedom like we do because most countries have a democracy
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I am an American living in China. Life here is essentially the same as America. Actually, I would say the US is more of a police state, no one here I know fears the police the way people in the US do, especially about traffic violations. Please do some research before asking a question like this.
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firestar...
Depends on how you want to view it. If you're not political, then you can live a pretty well off life. There are opportunities to grow and become successful in education, career, and money. Just like any other country, there is poverty and problems. Chinese ppl have fun just like anybody else. A way to compare it is to look at the freedoms Americans don't have. Most Americans just see the lack of certain freedom as a normal way of life, just as the Chinese do.

Look at it this way, China wouldn't be the way it is if the people didn't want it to be that way.
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Craftyla...

People's thoughts towards their government are the same as other countries. Some like it, some don't!

As far as your asking, "do you enjoy living in a prison and don't enjoy freedom like we do . . . ?" Well, I can only say that you haven't been to China . . . or if you have, you were in only a very limited part of the country.

When is the last time you checked crime statistics in the United States? (I don't know if that's where you are from, but I'm going to use it as a point of reference.) Murder, armed robbery, assault and battery, child molestation, rape and drug use are EXTREME problems in American society.

Not so in China. Child molestation is almost unheard of and people don't live in fear that their child is going to be preyed upon by pedophiles.

The murder rate is very low here. Same with armed robbery and assault/battery. Drug use has higher percentages and most of those drugs come in from the Golden Triangle and Central Asia.

Have you ever researched the meaning of "communist?" It comes from the word that means "common" or "for the common good." While I believe it is a flawed system (it discourages hard work and doesn't take into account simple, plain, old-fashioned greed), it isn't a bad concept. Wouldn't it be great if we could consider the common good before we consider individual good?

Chinese society has a history of "common good" that predates communism by centuries. The core family concept is a central part of Chinese culture. Decisions have long been made for the "common good" of the family so the idea of the government making decisions for the "common good" of the country is not that far fetched.

This is not to say that American culture is wrong. Indeed, it is not! The United States was founded on the concept of individualism and is 100% correct in embracing that concept in modern times. However, just because it works and is right for the US doesn't mean that it will work and be right for China.

American culture is best for America. Chinese culture is best for China. Neither one is better, neither one is worse. They both "just are!"
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It might not be awesome to live in China. Chinese government is so brutal as what you can image. If you are not anti-Government in public,Nobody will imprison you.
But "a democracy" as you said, I think it will be a big problem in China. I think we will have a democracy in the near future.
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you must be a very small minded retard 王八蛋.哈哈!you need to get out ur prison cell more.ha ! you have democracy,freedom of speech but NOT freedom of thought.We have everythingzzz 因为我们有一个强大的祖国。^_^ my name is 李莞
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你懂个屁阿!你这么说有屁根据阿!真受不了你们那些sb媒体...等你看得懂我说的是…
再来评价我们的政府吧!
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The Chinese have lived under dictatorship forever, so they don't really know what you are talking about. Americans are just getting used to living under dicatorship.
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That is so ridiculous! I enjoy my life here in china and never consider this country to be a prison!And it's really hard to understand why you have this feeling...
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Funny how people who have never been to China could believe they actually know China better than people who have actually lived or traveled to China.

BTW, read China's constitution. It guarantees freedom of religion... with a major caveat regarding foreign influence.. The Chinese can choose to be Christian and follow God's will. But the Chinese can't choose to believe in the Vatican, nor is the Vatican allowed to exercise any recognized authority in China. The Pope would have to live in China, then his authority could be recognized in China... subservient to the wishes of the Chinese government.

So you can build a church, read the bible and do all the other things that makes one devoutly religious... but what the Pope says means nothing in China.

Many things in China are more restrictive than here in Canada, but at the same time, the country is very safe with a low crime rate. The human rights situation is improving in China and ever year the country become more free and fair. Unlike the US (and Canada) where we are losing more and more rights every year. I would never claim China has a perfect human rights record... far from it... I am saying that things have improved in China and degraded in the US (and Canada) where the Chinese government can almost criticize human rights in the US (and Canada) and not sound hypocritical.... almost.
 

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Funny how people who have never been to China could believe they actually know China better than people who have actually lived or traveled to China.

Says the expert on Israel

BTW, read China's constitution. It guarantees freedom of religion... with a major caveat regarding foreign influence.. The Chinese can choose to be Christian and follow God's will. But the Chinese can't choose to believe in the Vatican, nor is the Vatican allowed to exercise any recognized authority in China. The Pope would have to live in China, then his authority could be recognized in China... subservient to the wishes of the Chinese government.

So you can build a church, read the bible and do all the other things that makes one devoutly religious... but what the Pope says means nothing in China.
What a laugh.

Freedom of religion in the People's Republic of China is provided for by the country's constitution,[1] with an important caveat. Namely, the government protects what it calls "normal religious activity," defined in practice as activities that take place within government-sanctioned religious organizations and registered places of worship. Human rights bodies have criticized this differentiation as falling short of international standards for the protection of religious freedom.[2]
China's five officially sanctioned religious organizations are the Buddhist Association of China, Chinese Taoist Association, Islamic Association of China, Three-Self Patriotic Movement and Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association. These groups are afforded a degree protection, but are subject to restrictions and controls under the State Administration for Religious Affairs. Unregistered religious groups—including house churches, Falun Gong, Tibetan Buddhists, underground Catholics, and Uyghur Muslims—face varying degrees of harassment, including imprisonment, torture, and forced religious conversion.[2]




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I don't think EAO or China have made very many converts:lol: