Driving ban for life after DUI? Drunk driving - from it is OK to execution, ect....

petros

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Cops have weapons like 24 hour suspensions and stuff.
0.04 BAC in SK. It's been like that for quite sometime now.

Back in the day when they had those plunk in two bits and get your BAC test machines, I decided to see how many beer it took to go over 0.08. It took me 7 beer to hit 0.08. I get looped after the first 5.

I'm 100% behind the 0.04 BAC = 24hr Roadside suspension.
 

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It's disappointing to see kids out doing fund raising to pay for a MADD CEO who takes home $6Million a year.

$6M would go a long way to increase awareness.

Found this from 06 and 08

From 2006
So of 12 Million raised about 10 Million went where?
MADD's `exorbitant costs' anger charity's volunteers - thestar.com
People who donate to Mothers Against Drunk Driving are told by the charity that most of the $12 million it raises annually is spent on good works — stopping drunk driving and helping families traumatized by fatal crashes.
But a Star investigation reveals most of the high-profile charity's money is spent on fundraising and administration, leaving only about 19 cents of each donor dollar for charitable works.
MADD chief executive officer Andrew Murie defends the expenses, saying the paid telemarketers and door-knockers are actually performing good works because they educate the public as they ask for cash. That's a defence Canada's top charity regulator rejects
From 2008
MADD's Metro board quits in funding spat
The future of MADD's Greater Vancouver chapter has been thrown into doubt after its board of directors resigned.
MADD director John Banovich said the six-member board quit June 1 over fundraising difficulties.
"We certainly have been challenged with fundraising, as a chapter," Banovich told The Province. "There was really no alternative."
National CEO Andrew Murie said from Toronto that the board resigned after it was told its annual grant was to be cut from $10,000 to $6,000, because of falling donations. In the year to June 2007, MADD Canada raised $6.6 million through fundraising, but paid $4.1 million, or 63 per cent, to professional fundraisers. Salaries and benefits were $1.8 million, including one salary of at least $119,999, and two between $80,000 and $119,999.
 

petros

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WASTE!!!

I did some poking around and it's MADD US that is over the top although CDN MADD isn't so **** hot either as you've pointed out.

In 2009 US MADD took in $41,006,038 and paid salaries of $20,537,936
 

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WASTE!!!

I did some poking around and it's MADD US that is over the top although CDN MADD isn't so **** hot either as you've pointed out.

In 2009 US MADD took in $41,006,038 and paid salaries of $20,537,936

I saw that as well. Non Profits in the US it is easier to see how they spend the dollars.
 

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Who here has had a family member or someone close to you killed by a drunk driver?


Two in the same accident.

NOW we are getting somewhere, Petros, that's why MADD has some credibility. For the rest of us it's all theoretical!

Emotional responses to risk assessment is not credible.
 

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That's your argument?



As I keep piointing out, there are more people involved than just the drivers. A point you keep avoiding. There are also passengers, pedestrians, injuries of drivers, passengers,, and pedestrians. You want to just keep talking about deaths of drivers, go ahead but you are ignoring a pile of facts.

Yep, that little fact has been sticking out like a wedding pr*ck and I've been tempted to mention it several times but what's the use?
 

Cannuck

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That's your argument?

You can consider it my argument if you want to ignore the first 200 plus posts of this thread.

How much money is spent on treating the deaths and injuries of these drivers, passengers, and pedestrians?

Don't know. That's one of my questions.

Is it more than the modicum of money spent on catching the drivers below 0.10 and giving them 24 hour suspensions while trying to catch people who are very drunk? Medical care isn't cheap.

How many modicums are there in a million?

And numbers of people killed in AB because of housefires is?

About the same number as killed in all of Canada by 0.0 - 0.1 drivers if your statistics can be extrapolated.

Neither is objection for the sake of objection

Agreed. Perhaps if people that disagreed with me provided a reasonable reason why, they might gain a little cred.
 

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Cannuck;1679744 Emotional responses to risk assessment is not credible.[/QUOTE said:
That is f**King bullsh*t- THAT is what victims have to live with for the rest of their lives- only a third rate moron would make light of that!
 

Cannuck

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That is f**King bullsh*t- THAT is what victims have to live with for the rest of their lives- only a third rate moron would make light of that!

Then I assume you are in favour of mandating sprinkler systems in every single building. Think of the lives we could save.
 

Cannuck

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Definitely in any new construction................a no brainer really!
Likely a break in fire insurance cost would likely pay for it over time.

What about all the existing. Do you not care about the people living in those places?
 

CDNBear

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Does that include houses?

They're already code in all commercial/industrial structures, residential apartments, and restaurants in Ontario.

All homes must have smoke and carbon dioxide sensors.

BTW: How's that study coming along?
 

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