POLL: Who Is Going To Lose In The US Election Today?

Who is going to lose today?

  • Obama

    Votes: 7 25.9%
  • Romney

    Votes: 20 74.1%

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .

PoliticalNick

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- Since I already predicted a Romney win by 2-4% of the popular vote and with 310-330 electoral seats in my thread about the Grecian Formula election, it will surprise noboy here that I voted in the poll for Obama to lose.
8O:lol:
- It continues to amaze me as to how uninformed or simply stupid or stunningly shallow Canadains have to be to support BO by about 80% to 20% because it is clearly more in Canada's interests to have Romney in the White House rather than management trainee Obama. Presumably, the same canucks who will vote for part time high school teacher Justin Trudeau in the next federal election here becuase of his heavenly hair and dreamy eyes are the same morons supporting Obama in today's election.
You mean stupid as in can't spell (which is rampant in your endless posts) or stupid in believing that I, in Alberta, cast a ballot for Trudeau. We don't have a national vote Teddy and those idiots like you who try to present our system as a national vote for PM need a slap into reality.
He has the cachet of being America’s first black president. He’s an internationalist. He would never thumb his nose at the French, or eat a freedom fry, or use bad grammar, or go to war without UN approval. Indeed Obama is as different from his predecessor, President George W. Bush, as it is possible to be. Consistently, polls show Obama winning about 80 per cent of the popular vote among Canadians, if we could vote in this U.S. election, which judging by the recent radio chatter most of us wish we could.
And used this to win a huge landslide victory last time. That should tell you how the citizens felt about the republican policies of unprovoked, illegal war and deregulated financial sector.
To start, if Obama wins, U.S. military spending drops substantially as the 2nd term Democratic president – assuming he keeps his promises, that is – beats swords into ploughshares. Good idea? Absolutely. But any decline in U.S. defence spending from its current level of four per cent of GDP (Canada spends just over one per cent) will put pressure on our government to spend more – or stop pretending we can participate in international efforts such as the Libyan campaign, Haitian earthquake relief, and the like.
Sounds like a good plan. We need to get our own house in order before we blow billions abroad.
Of course there’s energy: Romney loves the Keystone XL pipeline, intended to ease the passage of Alberta oil to the Gulf coast. Obama may approve it post-election despite his reservations, or he may not. And that has follow-on consequences. For one thing, a speedy go-ahead for Keystone would relieve some market pressure behind Enbridge’s plan to push its own Gateway pipeline across B.C. to the Pacific. Gateway has already caused tension between Alberta and B.C. and the chosen route has riled environmentalists, people who live along the route, as well as aboriginal groups.
F*ck the Keystone! Part of that deal is to sell the product cheap to the US. I prefer the Gateway so we can get premium price from Asia....unless of course Harpo decides to give away billions a year in yet another free-trade deal that f*cks the Canadian citizens.
In fact, Obama has never – not a single time, that I know of – appeared to care a jot about Canada’s economic interests, in any way. His interests, as one might expect, are his own, and his concerns domestic. Good on him
Harpo could learn an important lesson here. Look after Canada first, everyone else pays to play!

Well I gotta go back to work for a bit today. Damn it, why on this day. Have fun watching the circus today!
 
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karrie

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Looks like you're covering your bases already.

Will this be the excuse if Obama loses?
It will be the excuse for either side, and sadly, likely the reality.

The more I read, the more convinced I become that money and power really do decide a vast majority of American politics. Those who own the system, own the outcome.
 

petros

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Are we there yet?
The wheels of the campaign bus go round and round, round and round....

It will be the excuse for either side, and sadly, likely the reality.

The more I read, the more convinced I become that money and power really do decide a vast majority of American politics. Those who own the system, own the outcome.
When 100s of Billions of dollars are at stake, politics has no choice but to follow that route sometimes.

They squabble about it make it look like they are busy doing something for and against to appease the TV audience.
 

JLM

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It will be the excuse for either side, and sadly, likely the reality.

The more I read, the more convinced I become that money and power really do decide a vast majority of American politics. Those who own the system, own the outcome.

The more I think about it I'm not sure that their system, morals or ideals are much different from ours. The basic platform is greed on both sides of the border.
 

petros

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8O:lol:F*ck the Keystone! Part of that deal is to sell the product cheap to the US.
Keystone has been pumping for a few years already. XL is a newer fatter line. Second line of about a dozen to come. We are in competion with US in oil export as we are partners. Their untapped sources run from N. TX straight to MT N. Dakota border with SK and MB.
 

JLM

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Keystone has been pumping for a few years already. XL is a newer fatter line. Second line of about a dozen to come. We are in competion with US in oil export as we are partners. Their untapped sources run from N. TX straight to MT N. Dakota border with SK and MB.

Yep, I think the pipeline is much cheaper and safer than sending it by ship and can also get it right to its destination.
 

TeddyBallgame

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- PoliticalNutterNick ... You are one annoying A-Hole who considers that all business people and all politicians are inherently and totally selfish, greedy, crooked bastards who are in league together to con, cheat and screw eveyone else and who cannot possibly measure up to the one person on the planet with integrity, selflessness, honesty, etc, - YOU!

- I know personally several business and political people who actually care about making a difference in their communities and in their countries and who have sacrificed a great deal of time and money trying to make a difference.

- I would expand on this with examples of people I know or, as in John Diefenbaker's case, knew but it is pointless because you are a F'ing nutter.

- I told you several days ago that I had quite enough of your irrationality and insanity and had decided to simply ignore your posts from now on.

- You responded `good, my plan is working!`.

- Yet you still continue to stalk me and to attempt to harrass me on every one of my posts no matter the topic or the tone with your cracked pot purple prose and manic moronicity.

- I am still resolved to ignore you as a dispicable and disturbed creature and only wish that this board had a monitor who would actually do something about clearly deranged individuals like you with too much time on your hands (you must be a snivel serpent) who clearly and maliciously stalk other posters and attack every one of said posters`posts.

- In any case, talk to yourself all you want if the moderator allows it but I shall continue to ignore you.
 

karrie

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- In any case, talk to yourself all you want if the moderator allows it but I shall continue to ignore you.

pssst.... I think he can tell that you're not ignoring him. The paragraphs long post replying to him is a dead giveaway.
 

JLM

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- PoliticalNutterNick ... You are one annoying A-Hole who considers that all business people and all politicians are inherently and totally selfish, greedy, crooked bastards who are in league together to con, cheat and screw eveyone else and who cannot possibly measure up to the one person on the planet with integrity, selflessness, honesty, etc, - YOU!

As ruthless as he may seem, we need more voices like Nick's. He's good at identifying A$$holes, although I'll admit sometimes his net is a little wide. (But he can always apologize later) :lol:
 

petros

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Yep, I think the pipeline is much cheaper and safer than sending it by ship and can also get it right to its destination.
Some of it's going from Canada to TX to go on ships. Why have just full ships coming to North America dropping off oil when they can be leaving full with oil on their way out.

The rest going for manufactured products to export from S.US

Oil isn't all the same. There are oodles of different grades with different chemical properties which make different end products so it's more than just oil being exported. It's plastics, pharma, agro, and more.
 

JLM

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It's going from Canada to TX to go on ships. Why have just full ships coming to North America dropping off oil when they can be leaving full with oil on their way out.

Oil isn't all the same. There are oodles of different grades with different chemical properties which make different end products so it's more than just oil being exported. It's plastics, pharma, agro, and more.

So, there's a need for 3 or 4 pipes within the same R/W?
 

petros

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So, there's a need for 3 or 4 pipes within the same R/W?
More like 8 just down to TX and few more over the Mtns to BC then a couple up to Churchill and a couple more to Montreal and to the E. Coast.

We have no choice. Have you seen what the Saudis/OPEC are up to with their resource investment into output?
 

#juan

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- PoliticalNutterNick ... You are one annoying A-Hole who considers that all business people and all politicians are inherently and totally selfish, greedy, crooked bastards who are in league together to con, cheat and screw eveyone else and who cannot possibly measure up to the one person on the planet with integrity, selflessness, honesty, etc, - YOU!

Teddy why don't you go home and mourn the wasting of billions of dollars on a ridiculous election that takes a full year to do what most
other countries do in a month or two. Mourn the stupid recounts that for some reason take weeks when other countries do their count in a few hours. And Teddy, don't dwell on "annoying A-holes" people will recognize you.
 

JLM

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More like 8 just down to TX and few more over the Mtns to BC then a couple up to Churchill and a couple more to Montreal and to the E. Coast.

We have no choice. Have you seen what the Saudis/OPEC are up to with their resource investment into output?

Sounds good Petros, should create lots of needed employment!

Teddy why don't you go home and mourn the wasting of billions of dollars on a ridiculous election that takes a full year to do what most
other countries do in a month or two. Mourn the stupid recounts that for some reason take weeks when other countries do their count in a few hours. And Teddy, don't dwell on "annoying A-holes" people will recognize you.

Amen!
 

PoliticalNick

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- PoliticalNutterNick ... You are one annoying A-Hole who considers that all business people and all politicians are inherently and totally selfish, greedy, crooked bastards who are in league together to con, cheat and screw eveyone else and who cannot possibly measure up to the one person on the planet with integrity, selflessness, honesty, etc, - YOU!
Not all, just most.;-)
- I know personally several business and political people who actually care about making a difference in their communities and in their countries and who have sacrificed a great deal of time and money trying to make a difference.
Me too, they are just few and far between.
- I would expand on this with examples of people I know or, as in John Diefenbaker's case, knew but it is pointless because you are a F'ing nutter.
Examples not required, I know there are some really good people out there.
- I told you several days ago that I had quite enough of your irrationality and insanity and had decided to simply ignore your posts from now on.
So why are you responding? :roll:
- You responded `good, my plan is working!`.
I was obviously mistaken.:lol:
- Yet you still continue to stalk me and to attempt to harrass me on every one of my posts no matter the topic or the tone with your cracked pot purple prose and manic moronicity.
Delusions of grandeur there Teddy. I do not stalk you and if responding to some of the more ludicrous points you try to make with facts and opinion you do not like is harassment in your view, well, get used to it!
- I am still resolved to ignore you as a dispicable and disturbed creature and only wish that this board had a monitor who would actually do something about clearly deranged individuals like you with too much time on your hands (you must be a snivel serpent) who clearly and maliciously stalk other posters and attack every one of said posters`posts.
This is an open forum Ballsack. That means opposing views are welcome. If you don't like it go find a forum that is totally conservative where you can all circle jerk to your favorite radical republican.
- In any case, talk to yourself all you want if the moderator allows it but I shall continue to ignore you.
You are not doing a very good job of it so far but keep trying.:p