Israeli court rejects US activist's family lawsuit

[Goober]

How many times have you posted the same misleading image to create an erroneous impression of the ISM?

Information which accurately describes the ISM's non-violent resistance activities, what they do and who they are is relevant to a thread on Rachel Corrie's death and the ISM.

How many times have you poted the following:

Lies -

Altering member Posts

Slanderous remarks

And when posting what you consider to be fact, when shown it is not. Refuse to accept that.

And oh yes - My challenge- a discussion free from all of the above- would that constrict your posts. Are you afraid of a rational discussion free from lies, slanderous remarks and altering a members post. It is appearing that you are.

 

[earth_as_one]

More defamatory remarks

Back on topic:

Historian writes of 'pleasure' at murder of pro-Palestinian activist

Author of op-ed article in Jewish Chronicle tells me he 'rejoiced' at death of Vittorio Arrigoni

Vittorio Arrigoni, murdered in Gaza last month. Photograph: ISM/EPA

I was sent a link this week to a piece published in the Jewish Chronicle by historian Geoffrey Alderman, the opening sentence of which I found pretty shocking.
Under the headline This Was No Peace Activist, Alderman wrote:

"Few events - not even the execution of Osama bin Laden - have caused me greater pleasure in recent weeks than news of the death of the Italian so-called 'peace activist' Vittorio Arrigoni."
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Arrigoni, an activist with the International Solidarity Movement, was murdered in Gaza last month after being abducted by Islamic extremists. He was strangled with a plastic cord. Hamas subsequently killed those responsible for Arrigoni's death.
His murder, wrote Alderman, "was immediately pounced upon by the western media as an affront to the civilised world". This is indeed the case; many newspapers - including the Guardian - ran stories and profiles describing Arrigoni's commitment to the Palestinian cause and the extremist stance of those who killed him.
But, wrote Alderman, "the truth is very different. Vittorio Arrigoni, a disciple of the International Solidarity Movement, had travelled to Gaza to assist in the breaking of the Israeli naval blockade. As a supporter of Hamas he was a consummate Jew-hater."
He said Arrigoni's Facebook page - in Italian - contained "explicit anti-Jewish imagery".
I asked Alderman - who has occasionally contributed to the Guardian - whether he regretted recording his "pleasure" at Arrigoni's death. "It's still my view," he told me on the phone from London. "He was a Jew-hater like Adolf Hitler. Yes, he deserved to die for being a Jew-hater. I rejoiced in the death of a Jew-hater. I have no regrets."
Jeff Halper, an Israeli activist and academic, who knew Arrigoni well, said Alderman's charges against him were "outrageous".
"Sometimes things are so outrageous there simply isn't a response. Vik [Arrigoni] was unique. He was political and he had strong opinions. But the idea that he would differentiate between someone Jewish and someone non-Jewish - there has never been a hint of that."
Stephen Pollard, the editor of the Jewish Chronicle, told me he had no qualms about publishing the piece. "I have no problem at all with publishing it. I don't agree with [Alderman], it's not my view - it's his."
He rejected the description of Arrigoni as a "peace activist". "He was a member of the ISM, for God's sake. That's not peace activism, that's hard core Palestinian terror."
Neta Golan, an Israeli founder of the ISM, denied the organisation supported terror attacks or backed Hamas. "The ISM supports the avenue of non-violent and popular resistance," she told me. "It is a grassroots group, and we will work with anyone who wants to organise non-violent resistance. The ISM does not have a position on internal Palestinian politics."
She also rejected suggestions that Arrigoni was anti-Semitic. "It was so obvious he wasn't a racist. Absolutely he was not anti-Semitic."
I never met Arrigoni and I don't know what his views (if any) on Jews, as opposed to his views on Israel, were. Attempts to conflate opposition to Israeli policies with anti-Semitism are not new.
Scenes of Palestinian militants handing out sweets to celebrate suicide bombings or other deadly attacks are familiar - and sickening.
Now Alderman's rejoicing in the death of a pro-Palestinian activist seems to me a new and repugnant development.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/vie...od/2011/may/18/israel-palestinian-territories

eao: I'm curious ES, about how you feel about the death of ISM activists like Rachel Corrie, Tom Hurndal (both killed by the IDF) or Vittorio Arrigoni (who was killed by a Palestinian militant group.

 

[MapleDog]

Arrigoni, an activist with the International Solidarity Movement, was murdered in Gaza last month after being abducted by Islamic extremists

Noticed this line in your post,its odd that if they are there to help them,from israeli aggression,he gets killed by islamist.

 

[earth_as_one]

Palestinians are as diverse group of people as Israelis. While most Palestinians understand that foreign activists support justice and freedom for Palestinians. Many Palestinians also have an erroneous perception that all foreigners support Israeli war crimes and crimes against humanity.. Some are criminals motivated by money (kidnappers)...

 

[MapleDog]

Palestinians are as diverse group of people as Israelis. While most Palestinians understand that foreign activists support justice and freedom for Palestinians. Many Palestinians also have an erroneous perception that all foreigners support Israeli war crimes and crimes against humanity.. Some are criminals motivated by money (kidnappers)...

I think those who support the war crimes commited by israeli soldiers would not be dumb enough to go over there,they'll stay way back in the safe zone,like GWB and Tony Blair did.

 

[DaSleeper]

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[earth_as_one]

I think those who support the war crimes commited by israeli soldiers would not be dumb enough to go over there,they'll stay way back in the safe zone,like GWB and Tony Blair did.

Reality and perceptions are often quite different.

Look at ES's efforts to endanger the lives of ISM activists by creating a perception of the ISM as an armed terrorist group, when in reality they are unarmed non-violent resisters to the oppression and injustice suffered by Palestinians. Likely some people have fallen for ES's deliberately deceptive misinformation about the ISM.

Many Palestinians have a perception of foreigners which is similarly divergent from reality

All forms of non-violent resistance involve some calculated risk. People like ES and Lee Kaplan use erroneous misinformation to increase the likelihood that ISM activists will be harmed. But misinformed IDF soldiers, are not the only risks. Many Palestinians are poor and desperate. While most Palestinians are not a threat, some are armed thugs and criminals who will kidnap a foreigner as a way to improve their situation.

 

[EagleSmack]

How many times have you posted the same misleading image to create an erroneous impression of the ISM?

This one? The one with ISM members holding AK-47s and smiling?

 

[MapleDog]

This one? The one with ISM members holding AK-47s and smiling?

OK like for the 9/11 pentagon videos,i wanna see more. ;-)

 

[EagleSmack]

Look at ES's efforts to endanger the lives of ISM activists by creating a perception of the ISM as an armed terrorist group, when in reality they are unarmed non-violent resisters to the oppression and injustice suffered by Palestinians. Likely some people have fallen for ES's deliberately deceptive misinformation about the ISM.

How many thousands of Israelis did you help kill with these posts? You're deliberately responsible for the deaths of innocent Jewish women and children with your posts here.

Arrigoni, an activist with the International Solidarity Movement, was murdered in Gaza last month after being abducted by Islamic extremists

Noticed this line in your post,its odd that if they are there to help them,from israeli aggression,he gets killed by islamist.

Yes MD... these are the killers that EAO supports and assists directly in his spread of hatred for Jews.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I'm curious, ES. How would you feel if you found out that an IDF soldier saw an ISM member waving an ISM banner and shot and killed them, because they believed the ISM is an armed terrorist organization. Would you feel any guilt or remorse for the part you played in promoting an erroneous perception of the ISM which contributed to the decision to kill an unarmed, idealistic young person whose bright future was cut short by an IDF soldier's misperception of what the ISM is and what they do?

Perhaps, but I would not want to be a contributor to any violent action against anyone, especially someone who appears to have not acted violently against anyone.

Are you suggesting that IDF uses CC as a source of information?

 

[EagleSmack]

Are you suggesting that IDF uses CC as a source of information?

Yes he is... he's that stupid.

 

[CDNBear]

This thread is about the Rachel Corrie and the ISM. I really don't care what crap smearing trolls think about me. You seem to have a creepy obsession with me. I am not going to respond to your insults or taunts. I will not get into a flame war with you or anyone else.

He just wants to address the lies you tell.

That's not trolling.

Your lying is trolling.

You know damn well that the ISM is not an armed terrorist organization.

That's probably why he has never said they were.

Stop lying troll.

Your posts are a deliberate effort to cause young idealist people with bright futures to suffer injury and death.

Oh that's rich coming from a terrorist defending Jew hater like you.

Notice ES didn't claim that the ISM members used these AK-47's to kill anyone...

Of course he didn't. You're the one that makes up lies, not ES.

More defamatory remarks

That's an excellent disclaimer for your posts.

 

[Goober]

Are you suggesting that IDF uses CC as a source of information?

Yes- I have to inform you that CC is just another arm of the WWJC- World Wide Jewish Conspiracy. EAO has once again broken our cover.

 

[MapleDog]

Yes- I have to inform you that CC is just another arm of the WWJC- World Wide Jewish Conspiracy. EAO has once again broken our cover.

 

[CDNBear]

How else does Israel tell the UN to STFU, as you have claimed?

 

[Goober]

To late MD- I just cleaned out your bank account.

 

[MapleDog]

to late md- i just cleaned out your bank account.

you bastard ;-)

 

[Goober]

you bastard ;-)

OK- Just because I am a big fan of your art I have returned the money with a bonus. But be careful others are always watching...

These Guys are under contract to the WWJC

 

[shadowshiv]

A picture of Rachel corrie, before and after she was killed is relevant to a thread about Rachel Corrie's death. If the moderators feel the image violates CC policy than i support its removal.

I don't believe that this has been the first time that you've had offensive pictures removed. For that last time, NO pictures of dead bodies, children or adults, are permitted at CC. This is an official warning to you. If you post ANY more pictures of that nature, you will receive an Infraction, any more times and it could lead to a vacation from CC on your part. DON'T do it again.

And FYI, I don't really care if you support it's removal or not. It would be removed regardless.