Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza

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First off... Calling someone a Nazi violates forum rules. Anyone following this thread can see that I have maintained a much higher respect for forum rules and that I back my points up with references. Goober JTF and others here have responded with unfounded personal insults and taunts. Many of their arguments are based on $hit they pulled out of your asses rather than evidence. Let's start with the definition of ethnic cleansing:

Have I recently referred to you as a NAZI- or a NAZI scum sucking piece of ****- Have I recently insulted you-
I have noted that you slandered Colpy- Yet as always you now quote Forum rules.

Please post where I have recently insulted you- That would be the time frame after you apologized to me and retracted posts.

First off... Calling someone a Nazi violates forum rules. Anyone following this thread can see that I have maintained a much higher respect for forum rules and that I back my points up with references. Goober JTF and others here have responded with unfounded personal insults and taunts. Many of their arguments are based on $hit they pulled out of your asses rather than evidence. Let's start with the definition of ethnic cleansing:

And Just the Fact moniker is appropriate- He has taken you to school- ripped your BS apart- left your position in tatters- And to you that is offensive.

Just proves that you find Truth & Facts repugnant when they do not coincide with your very limited view and knowledge of the ME.
 

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Have I recently referred to you as a NAZI- or a NAZI scum sucking piece of ****- Have I recently insulted you-
I have noted that you slandered Colpy- Yet as always you now quote Forum rules.

Please post where I have recently insulted you- That would be the time frame after you apologized to me and retracted posts.



And Just the Fact moniker is appropriate- He has taken you to school- ripped your BS apart- left your position in tatters- And to you that is offensive.

Just proves that you find Truth & Facts repugnant when they do not coincide with your very limited view and knowledge of the ME.


wow :roll:

off your meds?
 

gerryh

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And what is problem with my post- I did not insult- I stated facts and asked where I had recently insulted him or her.


He didn't specifically call you a nazi, but you sure took it as if he did. he mentioned you and the fact that you had been insulting, and I am sure if I went back through this thread(ignoring your rant that we are talking about) I will find posts where you have been insulting.... so...either you're off your meds, or you're feeling guilty.
 

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He didn't specifically call you a nazi, but you sure took it as if he did. he mentioned you and the fact that you had been insulting, and I am sure if I went back through this thread(ignoring your rant that we are talking about) I will find posts where you have been insulting.... so...either you're off your meds, or you're feeling guilty.

Neither- I posted that he posts drivel- not really insulting.
 

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Have I recently referred to you as a NAZI- or a NAZI scum sucking piece of ****- Have I recently insulted you-

He didn't refer to YOU as a nazi, so what's with this question AND insult?


off your meds goob?
 

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EAO, you weren't invited here by the indigenous people.

When are you leaving?
CB is quite correct. The indigenous people never invited the Europeans. But the Canadian government currently treats our indigenous people much better than the way the Israeli government currently treats their indigenous people.

Canada recognizes fundamental rights and freedoms for all Canadian citizens, including First Nation people who have additional land and resource rights other Canadians lack. The Canadian government builds and funds schools, nursing stations, airports and many other government services in most (all?) First Nation communities.

Canada does not impose a food and medical aid embargo on First Nation communities. Canada does not assassinate First Nation political and religious leaders. Canada does not arbitrarily detain and torture First Nation people. Canada does not impose restrictions on where First Nation people can travel or live. Canada does not toss First Nation families onto the street and then award their homes to newly arrived immigrant families. Canadian soldiers do not destroy hospitals, schools, water distribution and sewage treatment systems in First Nation communities. Canada does not bomb First Nation communities with high explosives and chemical weapons............ and so on.

I'm 3rd generation European. I grew up in a Northern Ontario town where discrimination against First Nation people is common. But I was taught by my parents to judge people by their actions, not race or religion. I do not treat First Nation people differently than anyone else.

During an earlier part of my career, I worked to improve the lives of First Nation people living in remote communities. I maintained and repaired air navigation and communication systems at dozens of remote First Nation communities across Northern Ontario, Manitoba and Nunavut. Most of these communities had a better quality of life as a direct consequence of their local airport. (moving people, food, mail, retail items...) for many remote First Nation communities air travel is their life line to the rest of the world.

During my travels I occasionally encountered First Nation people who were hostile and racist towards me, because I'm not a First Nation person. I know their anger is justified by how they've been treated by various governments, religious organizations and other authorities... but I never harmed anyone personally and I feel that my work improved people's lives. They have no right to be angry with me personally...

One site ... Deer Lake was particularly nasty. Some locals would give us dirty suspicious looks. I constantly picked up bags of garbage people threw over the fence into the equipment site. Occasionally someone would shoot up the equipment trailer. Once they shot out a critical component on the Navigation Beacon (NDB)... during poor weather conditions. The service outage delayed the medevac plane until the weather cleared. (before GPS) The person requiring medical attention.... had shot themselves in the foot... I'd like to believe it was the same idiot who took out the NDB.

I don't feel personally guilty or responsible for the poverty and abysmal conditions on many First Nations communities. I support increased assistance to improve conditions. I support preserving, promoting and teaching First Nation language and culture with government support in compensation for deliberate damage caused by past government policies of cultural assimilation and abuse (residential schools)

I support fair and just resolutions to unresolved First Nations issues. (compensation for past wrongs and unsettled land claims for example),

If First Nations communities want to give up their social assistance, medical benefits, funding for schools, nursing stations, airports and all the other government services which improve their lives and return to the land... feel free as far as I'm concerned.
 
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earth_as_one

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Great, you agree with me.

The rest of your post was an excellent example of moral relativism and BS.

So when are you leaving?

You weren't invited here.
If I leave, can I take all the airport services to these remote communities with me?

Please don't feel any need to express your gratitude for the services I provided to many remote first Nation communities. BTW, you don't happen to have a self inflicted firearm injury to the foot that required the services of an air ambulance?

I never expected thanks or even an acknowledgement for the years that I worked to provide airport services which improve the lives of remote First Nation Communities. I only expected that I could work in a safe environment without fear that some idiot might shoot up an equipment building while I was working inside. That thought was always in the back of my mind... it tended to make me work quicker and want to leave ASAP.

I will also make some distinctions between the various communities. I never had any problems at any Inuit community. The Inuit might live in the coldest parts of Canada, but they are the warmest, friendliest people I've ever met. I would go back again if I had the chance.

The most dangerous communities were specific Cree and Ojibway communities which allowed alcohol. I could tell as soon as I walked off the plane if the community was wet or dry.

The plane lands... no fuel truck... Pilot has to look for services. The terminal building is falling apart. siding is missing, graffiti, garbage all over the place, toilets don't work and are a disgusting health hazard.... This must be a wet community. I better get out of here as soon as I complete my work.

Plane lands and is met by the fuel truck. The terminal building is not only clean and in good repair, it has many examples of local art on display. Clean toilets that work... This must be a dry community. I think I'll go into town after I finish my work and look for a restaurant that specializes in local wild foods. Also I'll check out arts and crafts stores and chat up the locals.

Regarding your question:

I'll gladly emigrate in shame if/when the Canadian government ever imposes a food and medical aid embargo on First Nation communities, or starts assassinating First Nation political and religious leaders, arbitrarily detaining and torturing First Nation people, imposing restrictions on where First Nation people can travel or live, tosses First Nation families onto the street and then award their homes to newly arrived immigrant families, destroying hospitals, schools, water distribution and sewage treatment systems in First Nation communities and/or bombs First Nation communities with high explosives and chemical weapons.

Also I wish I had as same rights and freedoms as indigenous Canadians. I'd also like special rights regarding the land and resources. I'd like to be able to send my children to university with the same level of government support as First Nation children. I wish my children had the same medical/dental services as First Nation children.
 
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If I leave, can I take all the airport services to these remote communities with me?

Please don't feel any need to express your gratitude for the services I provided to many remote first Nation communities. BTW, you don't happen to have a self inflicted firearm injury to the foot that required the services of an air ambulance?

I never expected thanks or even an acknowledgement for the years that I worked to provide airport services which improve the lives of remote First Nation Communities. I only expected that I could work in a safe environment without fear that some idiot might shoot up an equipment building while I was working inside. That thought was always in the back of my mind... it tended to make me work quicker and want to leave ASAP.

I will also make some distinctions between the various communities. I never had any problems with people in Inuit communities. These people might live in the coldest parts of Canada, but they are some of the warmest, friendliest people I've ever met. I would go back again if I had the chance.

The most dangerous communities were specific Cree and Ojibway communities which allowed alcohol. I could tell as soon as I walked off the plane if the community was wet or dry.

The plane lands... no fuel truck... Pilot has to look for services. The terminal building is falling apart. siding is missing, graffiti, garbage all over the place, toilets don't work and are a disgusting health hazard.... This must be a wet community. I better get out of here as soon as I complete my work.

Plane lands and is met by the fuel truck. The terminal building is not only clean and in good repair, it has many examples of local art on display. Clean toilets that work... This must be a dry community. I think I'll go into town after I finish my work and look for restaurant that specializes in local wild foods. Also I'll check out arts and crafts stores and chat up the locals.

But you asked a question, so here is your answer:

I'll gladly emigrate in shame if/when the Canadian government ever imposes a food and medical aid embargo on First Nation communities, or starts assassinating First Nation political and religious leaders, arbitrarily detaining and torturing First Nation people, imposing restrictions on where First Nation people can travel or live, tosses First Nation families onto the street and then award their homes to newly arrived immigrant families, destroying hospitals, schools, water distribution and sewage treatment systems in First Nation communities and/or bombs First Nation communities with high explosives and chemical weapons.

Your moral relativism and silly caveats mean nothing. There's a fair portion of the Native population that consider you a squatter.

Your presence and occupation of our lands is only different from that of Israel, by virtue of the gov't succeeding in forcing our submission, and forced assimilation.

When are you leaving?
 

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First off... Calling someone a Nazi violates forum rules. Anyone following this thread can see that I have maintained a much higher respect for forum rules and that I back my points up with references. Goober JTF and others here have responded with unfounded personal insults and taunts. Many of their arguments are based on $hit they pulled out of your asses rather than evidence. Let's start with the definition of ethnic cleansing:

Now who hurt your feelings- I am sure that we have member who do have Nazi in their thinking when it come to Israel or Jews.

So let is begin with facts. We have them and you do not. Simply put so you may comprehend it.
 

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Your moral relativism and silly caveats mean nothing. There's a fair portion of the Native population that consider you a squatter.

Your presence and occupation of our lands is only different from that of Israel, by virtue of the gov't succeeding in forcing our submission, and forced assimilation.

When are you leaving?
I am well aware that some First Nation people are anti-White racists. Read my previous post. I try to ignore anti-white racists...

The majority of First Nation people aren't racists. Most welcome trained professionals like myself into their communities so that we can provide health, education, transportation and a myriad of other services which improves their lives.

As I already said I'd emigrate in shame if Canada starts treating our indigenous people as poorly as Israel treats their indigenous people.

BTW, perhaps you'd like to comment on First Nations people like yourself having more rights than non-first nation people like me? Would you prefer that Canada remove all your rights and freedoms and treat indigenous people like yourself similarly to the way Israel treats their indigenous people?

I would be against that change, not only because it would be unfair, unjust and oppressive, but also because the predictable result would be a similar level of violence. I would prefer that Canadians respect and support First nation language and culture. I support First Nations people having special rights to the land and resources as well as all the same rights enjoyed by other Canadians I also support special programs and assistance for the education of First Nation children. I would like to see a lot more First Nation children make it to college and university and graduate as Engineers, Nurses, Doctors, Lawyers....

BTW, how do you feel about the Israeli blockade of education material including reference books, pens, pencils, paper... as well as Israeli policies which prevent Palestinians from leaving Gaza to attend college and university?
 
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gerryh

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Wow... you're as ignorant, if not more so, concerning Injuns here in Canada as your are concerning pali's in the middle east.
 

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Places I've been or lived:

Nunavut: Resolute Bay, Iqaluit, Baker Lake, Rankin Inlet, Chesterfield Inlet, Whale Cove, Arviat

Northern Manitoba and Ontario: Churchill, Thompson, Sachigon Lake, Bearskin Lake, Big Trout Lake, Kasabonika, Weagamow, Sandy Lake, Deer Lake, Pikagikum, Armstrong, Sioux Lookout, Kenora, Dryden, Thunder Bay,....

I think I know what I am talking about when it comes to conditions in many First Nation communities. But if you have a point, feel free to make it. Just calling someone ignorant without any reason is a personal attack.

Here are some examples of problems in these communities:

Ontario nurses blast gov't inaction on First Nations drug crisis

BY ELIZABETH PAYNE, POSTMEDIA NEWS JANUARY 10, 2012

OTTAWA — The federal and provincial governments have failed to adequately address the prescription drug abuse crisis that is devastating remote northern Ontario communities, says the association that represents 33,000 registered nurses in Ontario.

"This letter is to implore your ministries to work together to immediately address the devastating impacts of opiate addiction in remote and isolated areas of northern Ontario," Doris Grinspun, executive director of the Registered Nurses Association of Ontario, wrote this week to federal Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq and Ontario Health Minister Deb Matthews.

In some remote First Nations communities in northern Ontario, up to 80 per cent of adults are addicted to OxyContin and other synthetic opioids. The addiction crisis has hollowed out communities and has resulted in growing numbers of babies being born addicted to the drugs to which their mothers are hooked.

The Nishnawbe Aski First Nation, the political organization that represents 49 First Nations communities in northern Ontario, has worked to address the issue but has grown increasing frustrated with what they say is a lack of response by both levels of government to the addiction epidemic.

First Nation drug crisis draws nursing groups and political organizations into battle | Media.Knet.Ca


Canada, home to the suicide capital of the world
In Pikangikum, gas sniffing is rampant and young people are taking their own lives at a shocking rate.
Canada, home to the suicide capital of the world - Canada - Macleans.ca

Remote nurses demand better security
Nurses at stations on remote northern reserves are calling for improved security after a nurse was raped in Berens River...
Remote nurses demand better security - CBC News
 
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gerryh

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Places I've been or lived:

Nunavut: Resolute Bay, Iqaluit, Baker Lake, Rankin Inlet, Chesterfield Inlet, Whale Cove, Arviat

Northern Manitoba and Ontario: Churchill, Thompson, Sachigon Lake, Bearskin Lake, Big Trout Lake, Kasabonika, Weagamow, Sandy Lake, Deer Lake, Pikagikum, Armstrong, Sioux Lookout, Kenora, Dryden, Thunder Bay,....

I think I know what I am talking about when it comes to conditions in many First Nation communities. But if you have a point, feel free to make it. Just calling someone ignorant without any reason is a personal attack.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2000/03/13/03132000_nurses.html


I really don't give a rats ass where you've lived. Your entire rant was reminiscent of dumpy's posts and don't deserve anymore than what I gave.

I'm stopping now, cause the only thing that will come from this is a time out for me and a new asshole ripped for you. You ignorant peice of shyte.
 

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I am well aware that some First Nation people are anti-White racists. Read my previous post. I try to ignore anti-white racists...

Just Anti-White Racists- Really - The rest are OK

As I already said I'd emigrate in shame if Canada starts treating our indigenous people as poorly as Israel treats their indigenous people.

Perhaps a thread on your experiences working with First Nations. Tell us what you have seen, learned and such.
 

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..."They (Nurses) have a phenomenally broad knowledge base and function pretty much as physicians," delivering babies, suturing and casting.

"One evening I was sitting with a plastic arm learning how to suture when the ambulance came in with a man with 50 self-inflicted knife wounds," recalled Taylor. "There was no time. We just had to get in there and, with another nurse, we sutured him up."


Taylor found the Cree people to be "very polite, warm and kind." When the time came to head back south, "They didn't say a lot, but the hugs said it all."


Not surprisingly, she also experienced some of the hardships of living on the James Bay coast. Unable or unwilling to drink the community's tap water, she went to the general store and handed over a $20 bill for a case of water that would normally cost $2.99 in Toronto, only to discover that the price in Attawapiskat was $47. A bag of apples the size of golf balls was $10. By the end of the four weeks, she had shed 10 pounds.


Although Attawapiskat is officially dry, alcohol still finds its way into the community through a thriving black market. Gas sniffing continues to be a problem and girls as young as 14 are having babies. By the time they're 25, it's not unusual for them to have six or seven children, said Taylor.

Program links Toronto, James Bay nurses | Northern Ontario Medical Journal

I really don't give a rats ass where you've lived. Your entire rant was reminiscent of dumpy's posts and don't deserve anymore than what I gave.

I'm stopping now, cause the only thing that will come from this is a time out for me and a new asshole ripped for you. You ignorant peice of shyte.
Most other people here on this forum don't have problems expressing their viewpoint in a polite way that doesn't violate forum rules. Sounds to me like you have a problem.