U.S. impatient for Canadian move on Khadr

[captain morgan]

Is his mindset the same now as it was when he was 15?

Couldn't tell ya, in fact I couldn't tell you what his mind set will be 10 years from now either.

 

[EagleSmack]

Mmm.. our government has that air of republicanism, don't they?

Not at all... your government has an air of Canadian.

 

[Spade]

I agree with the differences in treatment but do not agree the results should be similar.

Were it in my pervue; I'd get him into the new Kenny announced rules for immigrants proceedings for having committed a crime, then deport his azz directly from Guantanimo to Pakistan or some other chit hole of a country he spent time in as a youth. He's no different than one of the Jamaican gang-bangers mentioned as example in the legislation modifications.

Canada has already re-inforced his hatred for the west by leaving him to the whim's of the Guantanimo trial system. To believe he will now return with a warm and cozy feeling towards Canada and become a fine functioning contributing citizen would be a stretch.

He will be attending the first radical muslim mosque he can get to after arrival back here to simply be held up as a hero by all those radicals looking for a figurehead and another example of the evil wests treatment.

Omar was born in Canada. He was a child soldier. Bring him back to Canada.

 

[captain morgan]

Omar was born in Canada. He was a child soldier. Bring him back to Canada.

I believe you're mistaken here. Omar was neither a child nor a soldier.

 

[relic]

I guess nobody remembers that he might be where he is now because of some misinformation from "witnisses" in the beginning.

 

[WLDB]

I believe you're mistaken here. Omar was neither a child nor a soldier.

According to international laws he was.

 

[JLM]

Omar was born in Canada. He was a child soldier. Bring him back to Canada.

Glad someone makes some sense. It's not all that complicated. I think the pound of flesh has been abstracted. He was in a situation as a child and doubt if he really understood all of the ramifications. However, he should be given a chance to progress, even if it means being under strict curfew, I'm sure he's employable in some capacity and could be contributing rather than being a parasite!

According to international laws he was.

And even more important he was according to CANADIAN laws. :smile:

I guess nobody remembers that he might be where he is now because of some misinformation from "witnisses" in the beginning.

That is a distinct possibility. Anyway he's done about 11 years, which is close to what dear little f**king Karla Homolka did for far worse!

I believe you're mistaken here. Omar was neither a child nor a soldier.

Is there a possibility you are speaking from an emotional standpoint more than fact?

 

[Durry]

He was a child soldier. Bring him back to Canada.

He was no soldier, just where do you get your facts from,,,from your dreams??
He was a terrorist, he should be sent back to Afgan to serve out the balance of his 40 year term.

 

[lone wolf]

Like it or not, he's Canadian - just like some other trash

Omar Khadr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[EagleSmack]

Like it or not, he's Canadian - just like some other trash

Omar Khadr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hey Omar... You Just got WOLFED!

 

[captain morgan]

According to international laws he was.

According to the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child, under the age of 15 was the standard until Khadr was caught at which time it was raised to under 18.... The point being, Khadr was not a 'child' in the eyes of groups like Unicef until later that year when they changed the legislation.

Further, he was (and is) a terrorist in every sense of the word, the tag of 'soldier' doesn't apply to him.

Glad someone makes some sense. It's not all that complicated. I think the pound of flesh has been abstracted.

I wonder how many pounds of flesh were stripped from the US soldier by the shrapnel from the grenade that Omar tossed?

He was in a situation as a child and doubt if he really understood all of the ramifications.

Arguing on Omar's behalf that he is an idiot doesn't help. At 15, if he didn't understand, then he never will.

However, he should be given a chance to progress, even if it means being under strict curfew, I'm sure he's employable in some capacity and could be contributing rather than being a parasite!

Great, give him the chance in Afghanistan and if he passes muster, then repatriate him (maybe)

And even more important he was according to CANADIAN laws. :smile:

Too bad for Omar that he didn't heave the grenade at someone on CANADIAN soil.:icon_smile:

That is a distinct possibility. Anyway he's done about 11 years, which is close to what dear little f**king Karla Homolka did for far worse!

How about 11 years for each life Khadr took... There are some excellent pics and testimony from Omar regarding the numerous IED's that he fabricated... That ought to justify him doing a few thousand years in the klink.

Is there a possibility you are speaking from an emotional standpoint more than fact?

Nope

 

[earth_as_one]

I don't think Omar Khadr is harmless.

He's been brainwashed by extremists, tortured and abused. If I treated a dog that bad, I'd have a vicious mad dog and the SPCA would rightfully be on my ass. I wouldn't want Khadr walking free until after he's been treated by a psychologist and legally certified as no danger to society.

 

[Just the Facts]

I'll bet that baby Khadr's passport has expired and that's where the hold up is on this.

lol that would be perfect, lose him in a catch 22. Can't come back without a passport, and you can't get a passport without coming back.

 

[earth_as_one]

Omar Khadr is a Canadian citizen and legally met the definition of a child soldier. "terrorist" is a propaganda term for our adversaries and illegal combatant is just an excuse to ignore international laws regarding POWs.

Border Services cannot stop a Canadian from returning to Canada for an expired passport. Only other countries can refuse entry without a valid passport. The catch 22 situation occurs if the Canadian has an expired passport and needs to enter Canada via a third country, which denies entry.

 

[captain morgan]

I don't think Omar Khadr is harmless.

He's been brainwashed by extremists, tortured and abused. If I treated a dog that bad, I'd have a vicious mad dog and the SPCA would rightfully be on my ass.

The SPCA would likely recommend that the dog be put down

Omar Khadr is a Canadian citizen and legally met the definition of a child soldier. "terrorist" is a propaganda term for our adversaries and illegal combatant is just an excuse to ignore international laws regarding POWs.

Gotta call you on that one, apparently there is some confusion in this area.... And yes, he was/IS a terrorist.

 

[earth_as_one]

This link examines the term "terrorist", international law and human rights.

Terrorists Have Rights Too: What International Law Says about the Killing of Bin Laden - SPIEGEL ONLINE

 

[taxslave]

Good to see you would sacrifice justice for your own personal prejudice.

Just interested in protecting loyal Canadians from a known terrorist.