Parks Canada staff banned from criticizing Feds

Kakato

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What do park staff do anyways? I spent a couple years in Peter Lougheed prov. park and never saw a soul except tourists,maybe the folks swimming in the lake were actually park staff.
 

Kakato

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Jasper,banff,waterton,Nahanni.
Jaspers about the only one I saw any staff at.The peter lougheed is right next to Banff and yes it is provincial.
I would love to work at Waterton.
 

eh1eh

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If one of my employees spouted off like that they would find themselves fired. Times are tough, had to let you go for lack of work.
Don't get me wrong I think Harpo is a weasel but you can't do this sh!t in the real world so why should you be able to do it even if your employer is the Gov?
 

petros

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Elizabeth Mao could be PM and the idea still holds it's ground. It's not about Harper or any particular party.
 

Niflmir

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Tit for tat MF... An employee decides to take action doesn't mean that the employer is prohibited from doing so.

From what you posted earlier, it sounded like your relative made a statement about the library that was highly public in nature - and in 'print' as well.

On that note, we must recognize that what was offered was opinion. Further, the comment may also negatively affect the library as well.

I can block my employer from seeing what is on my Facebook page and merrily say whatever I want. Heck, I can be friends with my boss on Facebook, and still block him from seeing what I say about him.

The recent act that the Conservatives passed makes it impossible for anyone to block the Government from viewing their Facebook page. So if I was a government employee, all my boss, as the head of DNR or whatever, would have to do is write to Facebook requesting access to all my posts. They don't even need a warrant.
 

karrie

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Tit for tat MF... An employee decides to take action doesn't mean that the employer is prohibited from doing so.




From what you posted earlier, it sounded like your relative made a statement about the library that was highly public in nature - and in 'print' as well.

On that note, we must recognize that what was offered was opinion. Further, the comment may also negatively affect the library as well.

His comments were in regards to conservative government policy and completely unrelated to his position in the library
 

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What do park staff do anyways? I spent a couple years in Peter Lougheed prov. park and never saw a soul except tourists,maybe the folks swimming in the lake were actually park staff.

They could have been hauling garbage out to the dump or cleaning sh*tters. :lol:
 

Kakato

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They could have been hauling garbage out to the dump or cleaning sh*tters. :lol:
Or suntanning,fishing,swimming.
The parks are my favourite place to work,cruising down the trans canada trail in a 200 JD.
Slipping off in the 145.










Good times! Good times! The track marks in the last pic kinda show what happened.It was time to throw the digging bucket out and stab the cleanup bucket in the mountain to keep from flipping.
 

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Folks don't take runs at Dear Leader in a tyrannical society... Ask anyone that spent time in the gulags or under Pol Pot what the consequences are

So, what did all of those people do to end up as political prisoners? The charges may be trumped up, but clearly there are people who take stands against oppression of freedom. It happened under the Nazis. It happened in the Soviet Union. It happens today in North Korea.

Maybe what you meant is that these people don't tend to reach their life expectancy...

It's very Big Brother-ish, because obviously if the government intends to enforce this ban, there has to be some form of surveillance of employees. I think we could probably all agree that in an era of cost cutting, that any resources used to enforce rules that punish people for political opinions, is ridiculous.
 

petros

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Surveillance? Like the employees passing out questionnaires asking "how did I do today?" or offering a $2 off coupon for filling out a customer satisfaction survey on-line?
 

Just the Facts

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It does clearly state "when speaking as an employee of the agency". I don't think that includes a bunch of employees singing "screw Parks Canada" in a beer hall on Saturday night. :)

I agree with people who said it's not a big deal, it's actually a pretty standard expectation of employee conduct across the board.
 

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In a way its kinda hypocrite,they ask employee to be clean,and be quiet,while they do the same thing,and screw everyone.

Makes me think about the demand they impose on potential future employees,to see what the person does on facebook.

Shouldn't Facebook be like Vegas "What happen on facebook,stays on facebook" ;)
 

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It does clearly state "when speaking as an employee of the agency". I don't think that includes a bunch of employees singing "screw Parks Canada" in a beer hall on Saturday night.

And it's not entirely clear when you are or are not speaking as an employee is it? Are you no longer an employee of your employer when you go home? Maybe you see it that way, in reality it's not that clear cut at all. If you were venting about work in a bar to a buddy how could that not be as an employee of that particular agency?

Yes, it is standard practice for businesses to protect their image. An owner or shareholder probably wants the reputation of their business protected. The government is owned by whom? Whose reputation does a move like this actually protect? It's the politicians, obviously. They aren't the sole owners of Canada.

I'm sure as the Third Reich rose to power, that there were plenty of seemingly innocuous changes on the way to becoming the bunch they are now known as, that would seem trivial.

Not saying that's the case here at all, just that I think it's probably always better to err on the side of freedom over the legislatively enforced protection of the reputation of politicians.
 

Just the Facts

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Yeah there are always gray areas in life that are open to interpretation, but bitching in a bar I think is clearly not public speaking, it's still a private conversation.
 

Tonington

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Yeah there are always gray areas in life that are open to interpretation, but bitching in a bar I think is clearly not public speaking, it's still a private conversation.

So public is only when there is a mic or journalist around? Dubious.
 

Kakato

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Best to keep your mouth shut,do your job and if you dont like it find another and go there and dont burn any bridges on the way.
Try posting anything about the oilsands if your working there you wont be for long,same as taking pics.

Same with Encanna.