National Post: NDP making huge gains as Canada tilts leftward

[CDNBear]

You really have no clue, Bear.

And yet it's you that keeps making the mistakes, interesting.

And the self determination of peoples is not erga omnes (the correct term, not ergas omnes) so throwing a bit of Latin you got from Wiki into your 'argument' does not help you. Erga omnes can be involved where a people claims the right because of its oppression, but, in general, it is the obligation of a state to its citizens.

I guess that's why I used the term ergas omnes then...

Obviously about the weather, since you obviously don't know anything about the fundamental human right of self determination or where it derives the power of ergas omnes.

Everything I wrote about self determination stands and you should leave it there.

It stands as wrong, but keep going.

What is the saying about digging oneself into a hole?

Not sure, but you really are good at it.

Apart from that, I will not continue this with you. Until you can learn the rudiments of civility I have no interest in what you say.

Ummm, if you don't like uncivilized banter, why do you start it, then cry about it?

What paragraph of which article, do you find those prerequisites in the Helsinki Accords?

Really? Are you sure?

I'm well aware of what the world adheres to on self determination.

Nope, no uncivil commentary there...

If you are well aware then why do you ask?

And I am, indeed, quite sure that NO province other than Newfoundland has any legal claim to a Right of self determination.

You should avoid getting into a Constitutional hassle. The implication of your post shows that it is far beyond your education.

Oh there it is!

 

[Cabbagesandking]

My education, Bear, includes University degrees in the subject: practical experience in court action and years of involvement in the question.

You have not the slightest idea of what you are getting into.

 

[mentalfloss]

Woah.. watch a bit of star trek and the thread goes somewhere else.

Anyway, good chatting on this with you guys. Even gerry, whom I prolly gave an anyeurism (spl) lol

I still think there are external factors that are out of ones control, but will get more into that later.

Cheers.

 

[CDNBear]

My education, Bear, includes University degrees in the subject: practical experience in court action and years of involvement in the question.

And yet you mistakenly call it the Helsinki Agreements, and erroneously think it's the framer and empowerment of self determination.

You have not the slightest idea of what you are getting into.

Given your glaring errors. The effort you are willing to go to, to avoid actually discussing it...

I think I have an excellent idea of what I'm getting myself into. Nothing. You shot your mouth off like you knew something, got called on it, and will now do anything and everything to avoid conceding or actually discussing. For fear of looking more foolish than you already do.

 

[gerryh]

My education, Bear, includes University degrees in the subject: practical experience in court action and years of involvement in the question.

To put it bluntly. Bullshyte. You're lying through your teeth and I can smell the bullshyte from here.

 

[CDNBear]

To put it bluntly. Bullshyte. You're lying through your teeth and I can smell the bullshyte from here.

BINGO!!!

Which is why we hear about her highly educated mind and nothing about the fundamental human right of self determination.

Tell me Ger, how many times do you think I've debated self determination, what is or isn't a nation, and similar legal and moral arguments, on these boards?

 

[captain morgan]

BOOMer was the one who actually mentioned "social programs and a free ride" and you chimed in with the term "entitlements" which are the same thing. Maybe in Canada they mean something else but here they are synonymous.

In any case, contrary to what you or anyone thinks or wants to think, NOBODY is demanding welfare handouts except for corporate welfare queens.

I can't speak for the attitudes/beliefs in the USA, but in Canada, the track record is rapidly morphing into a circumstance that is appearing to resemble a welfare state. The 'protests' in Quebec by the student body is potential representation of what some folks expect. A jurisdiction with the lowest tuition fees (in Canada) in a province that is ranked #5 in all the industrial nations for the size of its debt...

That's quite an accomplishment in itself.

What is especially alarming is that this attitude is no different from the 'Occupier' philosophy that was spawned in your nation and had a shadow movement here in Canuckistan. By in large, it is the same (similar) demographic and the spirit of the demands is essentially identical.

In my view, the demands for 'equality' (whatever that really means) represents such an intangible ideal that the only reasonable interpretation is that it would manifest itself in a redistribution of the wealth from one group to another. We can argue all day about why or why not it could possibly happen, but in the end, it comes down to one group (in this case the ows'ers) looking to gain materially for doing nothing.

Call it entitlement or equality or whatever you like, it is still a form of welfare in my eyes.

 

[petros]

BINGO!!!

Which is why we hear about her highly educated mind and nothing about the fundamental human right of self determination.

Tell me Ger, how many times do you think I've debated self determination, what is or isn't a nation, and similar legal and moral arguments, on these boards?

I may not be Ger but I can say "plenty" and you know your ****.

 

[CDNBear]

I may not be Ger but I can say "plenty" and you know you ****.

Thanks Pete.

I doesn't make me an expert by any means, which is why I love to continuously argue it. I learn something new each time.

I wonder why Cabbagefarts, the almighty, is afraid to have a discussion on self determination with me. If she's so well educated on it.

 

[gerryh]

BINGO!!!

Which is why we hear about her highly educated mind and nothing about the fundamental human right of self determination.
Tell me Ger, how many times do you think I've debated self determination, what is or isn't a nation, and similar legal and moral arguments, on these boards?

What Petros said....lol

 

[Omicron]

No amount of research into the market would've prepared anyone for 2008.

Actually, if you'd been reading the London Economist, you would have seen it making cover-stories out of the impendingness of it a year before it happened.

Which is why we hear about her highly educated mind and nothing about the fundamental human right of self determination.
Tell me Ger, how many times do you think I've debated self determination, what is or isn't a nation, and similar legal and moral arguments, on these boards?

Lemme guess... you'll demand to not share weath made possible by an infrastructure built by the cooperation of others, but you'd be super-charitable about financing ways for people to commit suicide because they can't afford to live as old people.

Or are you the type so hatefully mollested as a child that you'd tell them to pay for their own suicide?

How many of the guys in here thinking their dicks are so long they can stick it up their own ass think they could make as much as they did if they'd done what they did in a nation with no infrastructure?

 

[CDNBear]

Actually, if you'd been reading the London Economist, you would have seen it making cover-stories out of the impendingness of it a year before it happened.

Lemme guess... you'll demand to not share weath made possible by an infrastructure built by the cooperation of others, but you'd be super-charitable about financing ways for people to commit suicide because they can't afford to live as old people.

Or are you the type so hatefully mollested as a child that you'd tell them to pay for their own suicide?

How many of the guys in here thinking their dicks are so long they can stick them up their own ass think they could make as much money as they did if they'd done what they did in a nation with no infrastructure?

Whodini - Freaks come out at Night (original) - YouTube

 

[JLM]

No amount of research into the market would've prepared anyone for 2008.

No, but a little common sense would have or knowledge of Aesops fables! :lol:

 

[Omicron]

No, but a little common sense would have or knowledge of Aesops fables! :lol:

You forgot a comma between the "have" and "or".

 

[JLM]

You forgot a comma between the "have" and "or".

Indeed, I did, I was remiss! :lol:

 

[Omicron]

http://tunes.digitalock.com/Augusts_Rhapsody.mp3

This is extrremly complicated to explain... but...

I don't know how to put this...

... but...

What if you were an angel with all it/his/her strength and the rules of quantum time/space were to get reorganized exactly along those line where Heavenly Father suspected...


Nobody ever solved the question of why the big H ranted Moses into the ground when Moses asked the question of where God came from.

Would you, if you crawled out of quantum chaos from no thing other than will power, and then as the only thing there was left with the option of encouraging good or easy dick-sucking?

Then you get lonely, and the angels are not enough, so you make a Lucifer.

Then you're still bored, so you go wild and fling it all out to see what the chaose of creative evilution brings up.

Then you get a jerk like me, saying...

... in order for all this to win, regardless of what you used to have to say to people thousands of years ago to get them feeling on track, the deal is this:

1) Us humans are so cool we would not to be as cool as we are unless the time-space prophesy gets changed where we get to freeze Lucifer into something like an iceberg.

2) All Angels are forgiven. They got weird beyond lots of possibilities such that some of them can only be accepted by bikers, and Lucifer is going to get saved and his perfect way of thinking like a computer with emotion is going to get understood and *not* taken back against Heavenly Father and used against Him.

The whole issue is about how big infinity is.

Infinity does not exist. It's not a number. It's like chasing a rainbow. You can keep going toward it forever, and you will never get there. Yes those pathetically semi-brain damaged ratards Moses hauled out of Egypt were so stupid they'd start danceing... and...


And... pretend you are in heaven and before God one must figure out a way to bow down and ask for time in the bathroom.

Would it be more complicated than bowing before Japanese Makado?

I'm going to try.

http://tunes.digitalock.com/fromsmallthingsonedaybigthingscome.mp3

Lucifer is freaking out.

I posted a soluton making it normal empoyment to get to mars even with it being the one in charge.



You guys are too Canadian retard to know how to jerk the undernuts of the testics of a childish retard and feed this into internation inteligence competition: http://tunes.digitalock.com/a3/01.mp3

You ****s are so slow. You do not understand how on hyperspace I shall forgive you.

http://tunes.digitalock.com/a3/01.mp3

http://tunes.digitalock.com/a3/02.mp3

Seriously... you guys gotta read ... plus get it on the understanding of how quantum hyperspace works... the angels thought it was nuts for Him to set it loose of Adam and Evites to come up out of the garden of chaos and in the end I get to save angels... and... I can stick Lucifer in a zoo and...

And...

http://tunes.digitalock.com/a3/04.mp3

I think I've getting it.

Heavenly Father is having relationship issues with the female Hevanely Gost.

http://tunes.digitalock.com/Augusts_Rhapsody.mp3

This is extrremly complicated to explain... but...

I don't know how to put this...

... but...

What if you were an angel with all it/his/her strength and the rules of quantum time/space were to get reorganized exactly along those line where Heavenly Father suspected...


Nobody ever solved the question of why the big H ranted Moses into the ground when Moses asked the question of where God came from.

Would you, if you crawled out of quantum chaos from no thing other than will power, and then as the only thing there was left with the option of encouraging good or easy dick-sucking?

Then you get lonely, and the angels are not enough, so you make a Lucifer.

Then you're still bored, so you go wild and fling it all out to see what the chaose of creative evilution brings up.

Then you get a jerk like me, saying...

... in order for all this to win, regardless of what you used to have to say to people thousands of years ago to get them feeling on track, the deal is this:

1) Us humans are so cool we would not to be as cool as we are unless the time-space prophesy gets changed where we get to freeze Lucifer into something like an iceberg.

2) All Angels are forgiven. They got weird beyond lots of possibilities such that some of them can only be accepted by bikers, and Lucifer is going to get saved and his perfect way of thinking like a computer with emotion is going to get understood and *not* taken back against Heavenly Father and used against Him.

The whole issue is about how big infinity is.

Infinity does not exist. It's not a number. It's like chasing a rainbow. You can keep going toward it forever, and you will never get there. Yes those pathetically semi-brain damaged ratards Moses hauled out of Egypt were so stupid they'd start danceing... and...


And... pretend you are in heaven and before God one must figure out a way to bow down and ask for time in the bathroom.

Would it be more complicated than bowing before Japanese Makado?

I'm going to try.

http://tunes.digitalock.com/fromsmallthingsonedaybigthingscome.mp3

Lucifer is freaking out.

I posted a soluton making it normal empoyment to get to mars even with it being the one in charge.



You guys are too Canadian retard to know how to jerk the undernuts of the testics of a childish retard and feed this into internation inteligence competition: http://tunes.digitalock.com/a3/01.mp3

You ****s are so slow. You do not understand how on hyperspace I shall forgive you.

http://tunes.digitalock.com/a3/01.mp3

http://tunes.digitalock.com/a3/02.mp3

Seriously... you guys gotta read ... plus get it on the understanding of how quantum hyperspace works... the angels thought it was nuts for Him to set it loose of Adam and Evites to come up out of the garden of chaos and in the end I get to save angels... and... I can stick Lucifer in a zoo and...

And...

http://tunes.digitalock.com/a3/04.mp3

I think I've getting it.

Heavenly Father is having relationship issues with the female Hevanely Gost.

Kiss off Lucifer, I know how to make your life better.

Go ahead and seduce me into your entropy food stomach pit.

You are so terrified of dying you didn't notice how God's secret society is using your idea of eating people into hell is spinning off stuff into the fifth dimention while you are going to need to be kept alive by five-dimansional, bacteria you will do what I think I am strong enough not to do for I have explored all places to camp out in the wilderness however if Vatican city can cure you of Demon Bacterian I would not only accept the cure but would grant them license to use learned kill-antiob against evil.

 

[CDNBear]

http://tunes.digitalock.com/Augusts_Rhapsody.mp3

This is extrremly complicated to explain... but...

I don't know how to put this...

... but...

What if you were an angel with all it/his/her strength and the rules of quantum time/space were to get reorganized exactly along those line where Heavenly Father suspected...


Nobody ever solved the question of why the big H ranted Moses into the ground when Moses asked the question of where God came from.

Would you, if you crawled out of quantum chaos from no thing other than will power, and then as the only thing there was left with the option of encouraging good or easy dick-sucking?

Then you get lonely, and the angels are not enough, so you make a Lucifer.

Then you're still bored, so you go wild and fling it all out to see what the chaose of creative evilution brings up.

Then you get a jerk like me, saying...

... in order for all this to win, regardless of what you used to have to say to people thousands of years ago to get them feeling on track, the deal is this:

1) Us humans are so cool we would not to be as cool as we are unless the time-space prophesy gets changed where we get to freeze Lucifer into something like an iceberg.

2) All Angels are forgiven. They got weird beyond lots of possibilities such that some of them can only be accepted by bikers, and Lucifer is going to get saved and his perfect way of thinking like a computer with emotion is going to get understood and *not* taken back against Heavenly Father and used against Him.

The whole issue is about how big infinity is.

Infinity does not exist. It's not a number. It's like chasing a rainbow. You can keep going toward it forever, and you will never get there. Yes those pathetically semi-brain damaged ratards Moses hauled out of Egypt were so stupid they'd start danceing... and...


And... pretend you are in heaven and before God one must figure out a way to bow down and ask for time in the bathroom.

Would it be more complicated than bowing before Japanese Makado?

I'm going to try.

http://tunes.digitalock.com/fromsmallthingsonedaybigthingscome.mp3

Lucifer is freaking out.

I posted a soluton making it normal empoyment to get to mars even with it being the one in charge.



You guys are too Canadian retard to know how to jerk the undernuts of the testics of a childish retard and feed this into internation inteligence competition: http://tunes.digitalock.com/a3/01.mp3

You ****s are so slow. You do not understand how on hyperspace I shall forgive you.

http://tunes.digitalock.com/a3/01.mp3

http://tunes.digitalock.com/a3/02.mp3

Seriously... you guys gotta read ... plus get it on the understanding of how quantum hyperspace works... the angels thought it was nuts for Him to set it loose of Adam and Evites to come up out of the garden of chaos and in the end I get to save angels... and... I can stick Lucifer in a zoo and...

And...

http://tunes.digitalock.com/a3/04.mp3

I think I've getting it.

Heavenly Father is having relationship issues with the female Hevanely Gost.



Kiss off Lucifer, I know how to make your life better.

Go ahead and seduce me into your entropy food stomach pit.

You are so terrified of dying you didn't notice how God's secret society is using your idea of eating people into hell is spinning off stuff into the fifth dimention while you are going to need to be kept alive by five-dimansional, bacteria you will do what I think I am strong enough not to do for I have explored all places to camp out in the wilderness however if Vatican city can cure you of Demon Bacterian I would not only accept the cure but would grant them license to use learned kill-antiob against evil.

 

[Cabbagesandking]

Why I won't have a discussion with you is simply because upu have no interest in discussion. You are a poseur who is here only to parade your ego. And silly personal conflict is of no value. It informs nobody and is a waste of time.

For this particular topic, someone who does not know that it is 'erga' and not 'ergas; who does not understand the distinction in human Rights as opposed tot he self determination of peoples; who prattles about the Helsinki Accords while not grasping what the Helsinki Agreement is, is incapable of any contribution worth the trouble of reading.

You think that I have no background in this question. I wrote part of the Statement of Claim for the challenge by the Quebec Federation of Home and Schools Associations to Quebec's Bill 101. Not the legal parts since we had eighteen lawyers working on that with Frank Scott as the Constitutional advisor. I wrote the Profiles of the Plaintiffs and a couple of other sections. The question of self determination, though it was not part of the challenge, was a big part of the issue of whether the law was Constitutional.

In the case I mentioned earlier, I was not involved but the UN Commission investigating used verbatim a paragraph from an article I wrote about the illegality of Quebec's laws.

The decision of that committee was that the laws were beyond the power of Quebec but that it could not intervene until all domestic resources were exhausted. That, of course, meant never since the UN cannot intervene in any of the advanced nations affairs and offend the club.

I will not communicate with you until you drop your mantle of superiority and stop quote mining other's posts to put your own twisted constructions on their efforts - in bite sized, unsubstantiated comment.

 

[CDNBear]

Why I won't have a discussion with you is simply because upu have no interest in discussion. You are a poseur who is here only to parade your ego.

What a wonderful example of projection.

And silly personal conflict is of no value. It informs nobody and is a waste of time.

And yet you do it all the time.

Why?

For this particular topic, someone who does not know that it is 'erga' and not 'ergas

I already PWND you on that lie.

Nowhere in any post on the subject have I used the word erga.

Unless you can provide an unedited quite, it would be nice if you stopped lying so much.

You think that I have no background in this question.

I know you don't. Hence why you won'y actually discuss it, instead you prefer to chest thump, hoist your mantle of superiority and use baseless lies to do nothing more than avoid any meaningful discussion.

Your fear and anger is telling.

I will not communicate with you until you drop your mantle of superiority...

The irony of that statement is palpable!!!

 

[Cabbagesandking]

Precisely, twit. You did not use the word 'erga' because you did not know that you should have. IT IS THE CORRECT WORD.