How do you stop irrigated plants from transpiring water vapour?
Yes. I guess the spate of tornadoes and other weather systems that tore through the central US this year were fairly benign. BTW tornadoes in January and February used to be considered freak occurrences. Not any more.
2012 off to furious start in tornadoes
Some how this conversation reminds me of boiling frogs.
If you put a frog in a pot of water and turn on the heat, it will not try to get out. It will not even notice the water is heating up until it is too late.Boiling frogs is causing global warming.![]()
If you put a frog in a pot of water and turn on the heat, it will not try to get out. It will not even notice the water is heating up until it is too late.
I think I read it on here. Actually, I don't remember the source. I'll look it up.I have to ask. Why on Earth do you know this?
I know, but I do have a twisted mind so it is understandable that someone would ask. We did nasty things to frogs in our youth but I didn't know that folk tale then or would have tried to prove it.OK, cool. Just was curious how you knew that fact. Was wondering
how someone would discover that one, is all.
If you put a frog in a pot of water and turn on the heat, it will not try to get out. It will not even notice the water is heating up until it is too late.
I have to ask. Why on Earth do you know this?
I thought I said that about 14 billion times already, but you know.. petros.
Don't mind captain. He's too busy worrying about the country turning into Greece.
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Tonington, you mention that the statistic is from UAH. Could I ask you to post what satellite measurements are about. Many think that they are a direct measurement and, therefore, more accurate than the other major observers. I could post a link but cannot explain it in words myself.
Stupid scientists at UAH with the alphabet behind their names; no wonder they don't do things right. Who should we believe if not the scientists? Won't someone please think of the children. Tell me what to do, some scientists say the temp is warming and some say it's cooling and some sasy it's natural and others say that man is all powerful when it comes to climate. I'm so confused. Let's give them more money; that will solve the problem.The UAH and RSS temperature time series are indirect surface temperature measurements. The satellites are NOAA polar orbiting satellites with microwave sounding units. What they measure is microwave emissions from oxygen, which correlates with temperature. They measure these emissions in 4 thick bands. For the surface temperature series, they use the Tropical Lower Troposphere (TLT) band, which is actually a 10 km band that extends up from the surface. You can see the coverage of that band in this image:
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The weighting function removes almost all of the stratospheric influence. Not all of it, but almost. That's important to account for because the stratosphere is actually cooling. The farther up you go, the lower the temperature trend, due to the radiative cooling impact of all that retained infra-red in the troposphere. The data undergoes a large amount of processing, to produce the channels, to weight the channels for altitude, to correct for satellite drift, and to merge two satellite instrument data streams together (with different instruments, and thus different calibration protocols). Compound that with the fact that there are more than 12 satellites being used for this temperature product.
The calibration is what the recent work from the University of Washington was investigating. For as yet undetermined reasons, the calibration of those satellites changes between the laboratory calibration and when the satellites are finally launched into space. The satellites actually use their own on-board temperature to determine the temperature on Earth. Over the life of the satellite, it's temperature will increase. Using radiosonde weather ballon data, the researchers found that the UAH observation of temperature was going down in comparison to those radiosondes. The radiosondes are direct temperature measurements, and are independent of the satellite temperature which will change depending on the angle of the sunlight hitting the satellite. Basically the processing at UAH is insufficient, and introduces a spurious cooling bias to the entire 30 year record.
Stupid scientists at UAH with the alphabet behind their names; I'm so confused.
Give me some IPCC money and I'll understand very quickly.Make an effort to understand.
Give me some IPCC money and I'll understand very quickly.
Yes. I guess the spate of tornadoes and other weather systems that tore through the central US this year were fairly benign. BTW tornadoes in January and February used to be considered freak occurrences. Not any more.
2012 off to furious start in tornadoes
Whose science, yours or these guys:Doesn't work that way. I didn't get any IPCC money, don't see why you would need it to understand some basic science.