Quebec’s anti-protest legislation tramples basic rights: legal experts

mentalfloss

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And how many $millions are you prepared to squander on a referendum to arrive at this unlikely outcome!

What a silly post.

A few polls with representative sample sizes won't cost much.

Transparency - it's what's for dinner in 2K+
 

Cliffy

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I once heard some bozo on the radio say something to the effect, "It is wonderful that Canadians are so willing to give up their freedoms for a little security." I would be willing to jail politicians who write such draconian laws before I would stifle freedom of assembly and protest. I might even add those who support this kind of erosion of our rights and freedoms.
 

willqccan

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Well, not quite completely bonkers! There's a method to their madness, when the entire population is pissed off with these a$$holes, then there is likely to be more citizens arrests made and they just don't have only the cops to worry about but the whole population at large. Of course that could back fire too and what you get is a MEGA riot. :lol:

It's true that people are pissed off. Here's an example (see video): Chauffard impatient | Éducation | Actualité | Le Journal de Montréal. I call this "pulling the devil by its tail". Two people had only small injuries but it could have been worse.

Yesterday, in Montreal and Quebec, there was a huge gathering of people hitting on pans. Very disturbing too.
 

JLM

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willqccan

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Sorry, only spicca Le Dong lay.

I know but the video speaks for itself (couldn't find it on youtube). You see a driver getting tired and rushing through a man in front of him, that last one getting thrown about 15 meters further.
 

damngrumpy

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Ah for the joys of youth of course they are not going to get what they want
but the fight for those rights as they see them is the thread that keeps the
concept of democracy alive. The other thing here, the press has not seen
fit to mention the weak leadership of the current provincial government.
This government didn't do all they could to negotiate with students n the very
beginning. They just blindly did what other governments of late have done.
They just proceeded to act without consultation with all those involved and
when that happens the results end up on the street. yes they cannot continue
to pay what they are, unless the entire system changes. Changing an entire
system takes a decade or more, but the work could have begun with some
consultation. Then the government used an unreasonable law at least from
the view of Canadians. It does not matter what other countries do it matters
how we do things. Now they have parents, adults, students and other activists
adding to the discussion. This government needs to act first by announcing
a plan to get people to come together to talk and cool things off. Second they
need to decide on the system they want to finance post secondary education
and that discussion must be with, the entire public not just students. Students
don't pay the bill totally the taxpayers pay it and they need to be part of the
consultation process.
 

taxslave

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Wow, this is really making headlines.

The government and the cops in Quebec are seriously screwing this up.



Montreal student protest ends in record arrests after police kettling | News | National Post

Nope. They are just doing their job. It is the protesters with no respect for the law that are screwing it up.

And if the entire province is willing to pay for lower tuition fees, raise taxes and let them pay.

Other than the students and a few lefties what makes you think the entire province wants to pay for lower tuition?
 

JLM

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Nope. They are just doing their job. It is the protesters with no respect for the law that are screwing it up.



Other than the students and a few lefties what makes you think the entire province wants to pay for lower tuition?

You have it figured Taxslave. As a person who over many years worked with dozens if not hundreds of summer students, I found you can roughly divide them into two categories.................25% who had a good work ethic toward both school and work and 75% who didn't really give a sh*t about either, there was even a small number who while working in the bush I had to keep them lined up with a stump to see if they moved.

This government needs to act first by announcing
a plan to get people to come together to talk and cool things off. Second they
need to decide on the system they want to finance post secondary education
and that discussion must be with, the entire public not just students. Students
don't pay the bill totally the taxpayers pay it and they need to be part of the
consultation process.

And third they have to devise a means to determine who the genuinely serious and capable students are (not the ones going to university to drink beer, play cards and find a spouse) and who will do anything within reason to get their education and do well while doing it.
 

Nuggler

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Well, not quite completely bonkers! There's a method to their madness, when the entire population is pissed off with these a$$holes, then there is likely to be more citizens arrests made and they just don't have only the cops to worry about but the whole population at large. Of course that could back fire too and what you get is a MEGA riot. :lol:


usually there's good reasons for mega riots. hence the intimidation tactics.

bought some bus tickets for montreal this evening.

see ya there.

you care about democracy, see ya there.
 

Dixie Cup

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This isn't the first time Maclean's raised the ire of Quebecers. A 2010 cover story "Quebec: The Most Corrupt Province" raised the ire of Quebec's political class and even earned the magazine criticism from many MPs in the House Of Commons. That issue featured Quebec's beloved Bonhomme mascot carrying a suitcase of money.


Guess the truth hurts eh? I used to live and work in Ontario and the company I worked for was trying to get contracts that were being tendered in Quebec (we were right on the border). Talk about corruption - gez. My boss was told in no uncertain terms that if the price was right, he could "possibly" win the tender. This, incidentally, was back in the early 80's. I doubt if things have changed.

JMHO
 

mentalfloss

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Yea, MacLeans has it in for Quebec.

There's something about the English-speaking part of Canada that really has an inferiority complex with the French.
 

skookumchuck

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Yea, MacLeans has it in for Quebec.

There's something about the English-speaking part of Canada that really has an inferiority complex with the French.

Your silly assertion aside, IMO, the fact that for decades a minority (Quebec) made up a vast majority of the federal cabinet had much to do with the dissatisfaction of the ROC.
Those of us who know a little of the history of Quebec that has been carefully swept under the rug regarding two world wars and the ugly reality of conscription, still carry a grudge. Understandably, since we experienced our families being torn apart as children in the ROC lied about their age to enlist, while far too many Quebecers hid in their closets. They would not fight for France and they would not fight for Canada, so what were they?
The tired excuse that we were fighting for the British monarchy was made moot by the fact that all of Europe was involved as well as France.

What other ethnic group had to be conscripted? Inferiority? Au contraire.
 

JamesBondo

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Bill 78 is almost useless. Somebody please call the rcmp and tell them that there will be a public gathering every night until further notice.