Anonymous threatens cyber crusade against Israel

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That would be unless you are a Jew. Someday you should clue in that your **** stinks just as bad as any other ****, perhaps even more in most cases.

Oh i do realize that. Part of being human.
 

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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear We already know that about you, cubbyabtfetgoreobsessed and MHz.
Compared to stuxnex creators I doubt the hackers can do very much, just like not very much can be done to a big bad Jew like yourself.


Know what? useful idiots or oxymorons? Both?
My what big words from the weasel minded, feel all big and strong and brave now?

Oh i do realize that. Part of being human.
You spread too much **** around for you to 'realize that', perhaps you 'gung-ho' is all about trying to not face up to the facts that Israel/Jews cause a lot more **** in the world than anybody else, biggest crybabies also.
 

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Compared to stuxnex creators I doubt the hackers can do very much, just like not very much can be done to a big bad Jew like yourself.



My what big words from the weasel minded, feel all big and strong and brave now?


You spread too much **** around for you to 'realize that', perhaps you 'gung-ho' is all about trying to not face up to the facts that Israel/Jews cause a lot more **** in the world than anybody else, biggest crybabies also.

You are certainly on a roll tonight now aren`t you.
 

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They disrupted fire and rescue services.... Isn't that like a ...uh ... crime against humanity or something?
'You think only one side was 'committing a crime', seems like Israel has hackers on stand-by if they responded so quickly, does that make hackers a 'noble profession' now?

"in response Israeli and pro-Israeli hackers attacked the websites of the Saudi and Abu Dhabi stock exchanges, and published the details of Saudi credit cards and of thousands of Facebook accounts belonging to Arabs"

You are certainly on a roll tonight now aren`t you.
Unlike you and your klan at least I'm not rolling downhill constantly..
 

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'You think only one side was 'committing a crime', seems like Israel has hackers on stand-by if they responded so quickly, does that make hackers a 'noble profession' now?

"in response Israeli and pro-Israeli hackers attacked the websites of the Saudi and Abu Dhabi stock exchanges, and published the details of Saudi credit cards and of thousands of Facebook accounts belonging to Arabs"
Interpret as you wish. Anonymous targeted hospitals and fire and rescue services. Not exactly legitimate targets are they? In my book that makes them attacking civilians. Israeli hackers tweaked the situation. That makes them just as bad - the way it ALL stinks in the Muddled East. I wouldn't expect you to know the difference
 

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They disrupted fire and rescue services.... Isn't that like a ...uh ... crime against humanity or something?
Here is what I wrote:
...I am against publishing people's personal information, like credit card numbers on the internet. I am against interfering with emergency services. However if Anonymous wants to battle the Israeli government, then government websites, prominent newspapers and the Tel Aviv stock exchange would be fair targets. I'm not saying I support Anonymous, but I am following the cyber war which appears to be escalating...

I wouldn't describe hacking an emergency service website as a "crime against humanity", but its definitely not a legitimate target. I would not classify the act as cowardly as soldiers forcing an 11 year old girl at gunpoint to draw enemy fire. Which act do you think is more cowardly?

BTW, I don't have a problem with the stuxnet virus. I do have a problem with assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists.
 

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BTW, I don't have a problem with the stuxnet virus. I do have a problem with assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists.
Why would that be or is it part of your stance that ties in with spies (doing just what you claim you don't support) being a legimitate way to deal with other nation. For clarity are you giving all nations the right to use spies to effect changes desired in another Nation? Say like delivering a stuxnet type of virus to every nuclear plant in the US successfully, is that what you mean by 'not having a problem with it'?
 

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Here is what I wrote:


I wouldn't describe hacking an emergency service website as a "crime against humanity", but its definitely not a legitimate target. I would not classify the act as cowardly as soldiers forcing an 11 year old girl at gunpoint to draw enemy fire. Which act do you think is more cowardly?

BTW, I don't have a problem with the stuxnet virus. I do have a problem with assassinating Iranian nuclear scientists.
How far away were the hackers?

See ... I'm just as much against Israeli booshyte as I am Palestinian booshyte as I am against giving any of them airtime.
 

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How far away were the hackers?

See ... I'm just as much against Israeli booshyte as I am Palestinian booshyte as I am against giving any of them airtime.
Which ones? Anonymous or the Israeli Retaliation Squad, how fast was their response, if it was 'very fast' then they were already on 'stand-by' or they were pulled 'off other jobs'.

I'm not particularly fond of Hackers or TPTB. I would prefer music to come in a version that was low enough quality that it would not be considered 'piracy' and that way the music could be listened to by people in the gettos or places where money is not there, be lucky to afford bandwidth. Same with movies and shows after a certain length of time, something like a 'library edition' that came with a watermark and no jail-time for watching it.

I would classify that as even being a separate issue from computers and war-fare, even down to helping spies do their dirty work. Israel has shown how it responds to cyber invasions, they strike at where the 'attack is seen to be coming from', not where the hackers actually are. Does that not give the rest of the world the 'authority' to do that at the same provocation, regardless of guilt?

As for airtime, a lot of it might be the only way to stop 'them' and that means more than one side. Airtime not in this arena but out where everything was 'out in the open'.
 

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Which ones? Anonymous or the Israeli Retaliation Squad, how fast was their response, if it was 'very fast' then they were already on 'stand-by' or they were pulled 'off other jobs'.
Were Anonymous close enough to nab a local kid? If you're going to deposit your two cents worth, at least have brains enough to buy the whole package.

I'm not particularly fond of Hackers or TPTB. I would prefer music to come in a version that was low enough quality that it would not be considered 'piracy' and that way the music could be listened to by people in the gettos or places where money is not there, be lucky to afford bandwidth. Same with movies and shows after a certain length of time, something like a 'library edition' that came with a watermark and no jail-time for watching it.

I would classify that as even being a separate issue from computers and war-fare, even down to helping spies do their dirty work. Israel has shown how it responds to cyber invasions, they strike at where the 'attack is seen to be coming from', not where the hackers actually are. Does that not give the rest of the world the 'authority' to do that at the same provocation, regardless of guilt?
Shoot first and ask questions later might as easily be applied to folk who choose to respond to select portions of text rather than attempt to make sense of the complete thing.

As for airtime, a lot of it might be the only way to stop 'them' and that means more than one side. Airtime not in this arena but out where everything was 'out in the open'.
Crazy-making behaviour - you know: that Bart Simpson sort of "I didn't do it" booshyte - is a weapon both sides use to great effect. It's not just on formus where if you ignore a crybaby, they'll either go away or they'll up the anté to the point where they self-destruct.

BTW: The latter is the opinion of an observer - just so you don't read some form of implied expertise into it so you can sway the topic....
 

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I am against publishing people's personal information, like credit card numbers on the internet. I am against interfering with emergency services. However if Anonymous wants to battle the Israeli government, then government websites, prominent newspapers and the Tel Aviv stock exchange would be fair targets. I'm not saying I support Anonymous, but I am following the cyber war which appears to be escalating...
And you support them? Awesome. Just another group of criminals you support.

Compared to stuxnex creators I doubt the hackers can do very much, just like not very much can be done to a big bad Jew like yourself.
I'm not Jewish, but thanks for the illuminating post.

I wouldn't describe hacking an emergency service website as a "crime against humanity", but its definitely not a legitimate target.
I wouldn't describe attacking an ambulance being used by Hamas to transport militants as a crime against humanity, but you would. And that's a legitimate target.
 

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So how do our medics remove the wounded from the battle field? Oh that's right, our side are soldiers and their side are terrorists. That's why its a war crime if they shoot our ambulance drivers and not a crime if we shoot their ambulance drivers. Good point CB.
 

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So how do our medics remove the wounded from the battle field? Oh that's right, our side are soldiers and their side are terrorists. That's why its a war crime if they shoot our ambulance drivers and not a crime if we shoot their ambulance drivers. Good point CB.
Maybe you can point out where you got the bulk of that nonsense. Because I haven't made any statements about 'our side' (Perhaps you should quote me, where I said anything resembling what you have asserted).

I simply stated, attacking an ambulance, carrying combatants, isn't a war crime.

And in all honesty, if 'our side' were doing such a thing, I would condemn it and acknowledge the fact that doing so, is why it was attacked.

That's the biggest difference between you and I.

I wonder what nationality the driver of that UN vehicle is?

From what I can remember, under NO circumstances were UN personnel allowed to transport armed, non UN personnel, in UN security, or Peacekeeping vehicles, at all, whatsoever. Since the UN in the region, is not operating under a combat mandate. There would be no un-uniformed, armed UN personnel being transported in or out of a combat zone.

Kind puts Israels stance on the UN in the region, in perspective.
 

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You sure that vid was in Gaza, there were street-lights and since when does the IDF drive around the inner city in the middle of the night? Anybody run the plate number yet?