Why are Passports so Expensive?

bobnoorduyn

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You guys really are free!

I don't think you'll find too many folks here boasting about our freedom considering the glut of liberty choking statutes on the books, with even more being proposed, especially in the nanny-statist province where I reside. But that is fodder for a separate thread.

It costs more for a driver's license. So, not a big deal.

NS driver's license - $79.43 / 5 years
NS Boat trailer - $42.29 / annually
NS Chev Suburban - $253.72 / 2 years
NS Mid sized car - $203.40 / 2 years
NS Motor vehicle inspection - last one kicked the crap out of $2000 / 2 years
These fees are just for the regular Joe Sixpack.

Now, if you travel:
Air traveller security fee, Domestic - $7.12 - $14.25
Cross border - $12.10 - $24.21
International - $25.91(all subject to GST/HST/PST, go figure)
Airport inprovement fees vary by airport and range from $15 to $40 in Canada.
Fees are just tax increases by stealth.
 

SLM

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What is this citizenship card?

For the most part it is identification for individuals who have emigrated to Canada and become citizens.

If you were born in Canada you can apply to get one as well but for those born here a provincial birth certificate is sufficient usually.
 

PoliticalNick

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What is this citizenship card? I heard it listed as an acceptable form of ID the other day but not before this. I mean I have my SIN, my driver's license and passport but I have no idea what this thing is...

When you become a Canadian citizen you get a pretty certificate and a wallet card which proves that you are a Canadian even though your birth certificate is from another country. Those born in canada can apply for the wallet card if they choose to pay the $75 and wait the 10 months. It used to get you into certain countries in lieu of a passport but that is gone since 9/11.
 

WLDB

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Now, if you travel:
Air traveller security fee, Domestic - $7.12 - $14.25
Cross border - $12.10 - $24.21
International - $25.91(all subject to GST/HST/PST, go figure)
Airport inprovement fees vary by airport and range from $15 to $40 in Canada.
Fees are just tax increases by stealth.

Fortunately I never fly. Trains as far as I can remember doing have nearly as many fees even when crossing borders.
 

Omicron

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A passport from Canada costs $85 or more from the US or Bermuda, for a document that is only good for 5 years. This cost is way out of line, compared to other countries.

Can anyone explain just WHY the fees are so high?

Because they love you so much they are afraid you will not return.

Anyway, yes... obviously if you can show up with a tax return you should be given a license if you can pass the road test.

Lucifer seriously does not like it when humans think.

I offered him perpetual survival like how the Sicks (Six?) brewery of Calgary created the greatest aquarium ever seen before on this planet, much less Calgary, and how the Six family understood the invisible hand and fed it back... therefore in terms of the excellence the the Six family did for Calgary with its best aquarium and zoo (still the world's best) if I have to do thing in New York like when Jesus kicked out the money changes.

I might have to swat some under-aged little retard brats your way...


I am going to kill Lucifer.

Then we can talk about time.
 
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DavidB

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I don't think $85 is high considering the amount of checking and scrutiny necessary to obtain an absolutely fool proof document. Renewing a drivers license can cost as much as $75, and we know how foolproof they are! :smile:

I think they are both too high.
I agree with a previous reply: it is a monopoly, so the government can gouge people and use licence renewals as a source of revenue.
When I renew my Drivers Licence, and shell out $75, I always wonder how they can justify such a high fee. I mean, I could take my own digital photo, print it out, and get it laminated at Staples for a lot less than $75. And if you have a higher level Driver Licence, such as a Class 3, the fee is higher--and you have to go for a medical exam, which is not covered by MSP. So another $100 - $125 for that.
 

gerryh

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I think they are both too high.
I agree with a previous reply: it is a monopoly, so the government can gouge people and use licence renewals as a source of revenue.
When I renew my Drivers Licence, and shell out $75, I always wonder how they can justify such a high fee. I mean, I could take my own digital photo, print it out, and get it laminated at Staples for a lot less than $75. And if you have a higher level Driver Licence, such as a Class 3, the fee is higher--and you have to go for a medical exam, which is not covered by MSP. So another $100 - $125 for that.


The new DL's are a lot more than just a laminated digital photo..... but why worry about the small things like facts, truth and security measures..... all so much better to leave shyte out and whine.
 

damngrumpy

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Perhaps our government actually investigates the claims of people making the application
especially in today's world. There are costs involved and yes I agree there may be a need
for more than one photo, its called verification. Imagine the behind the idea that somehow
the market decides. There is no way in hell that I want to start privatizing immigration and
control, that would open a flood gate of abuse.
As for poor people staying at home, that is like saying let them eat cake. Poor people are
not looking to leave the country, they are looking for work, food and housing for themselves
and their children. If they can find a job they would be happy to pay for a passport.
 

bill barilko

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As for poor people staying at home, that is like saying let them eat cake. Poor people arenot looking to leave the country, they are looking for work, food and housing for themselves and their children. If they can find a job they would be happy to pay for a passport.
Your post equates sucking and blowing @ the same time-they are or they aren't.
 

damngrumpy

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I am consistent in my statement I said if they could find a job they wouldn't mind
paying for a passport. Of course if they had a job they would have money and
they would no longer be poor would they?
 

Liberalman

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Canada will be coming out with the 10-year passport for triple the price, which includes the rubber gloves border guards use for the strip and cavity searches
 

Machjo

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A passport from Canada costs $85 or more from the US or Bermuda, for a document that is only good for 5 years. This cost is way out of line, compared to other countries.

Can anyone explain just WHY the fees are so high?

I don't know. What I will say though is that ideally a fair price would cover the cost of producing the passport along with security checks etc. without requiring any government subsidy, but without making any profit or a marginal profit at most.

What that is currently the case, I don't know.
 

Machjo

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To be fair, the cost of the passport has to cover part of the costs of having embassies and staff around the world.

Good point, and agreed. Again, following the user-pay principle, I'd rather pay more for my passport than have some poor sucker who never travels subsidize it. It's only fair.

Perhaps our government actually investigates the claims of people making the application
especially in today's world. There are costs involved and yes I agree there may be a need
for more than one photo, its called verification. Imagine the behind the idea that somehow
the market decides. There is no way in hell that I want to start privatizing immigration and
control, that would open a flood gate of abuse.
As for poor people staying at home, that is like saying let them eat cake. Poor people are
not looking to leave the country, they are looking for work, food and housing for themselves
and their children. If they can find a job they would be happy to pay for a passport.

And if an unemployed person on social assistance suddenly had an opportunity to get a job requiring a valid passport, I'd be more than happy to have my taxes buy him a passport as long as he has presented proof that his employer has already committed to hiring him as long as he gets his passport within x days.

I am not for subsidizing the passport of every Harry, Dick and Jane for no valid reason though.
 

Tonington

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Your post equates sucking and blowing @ the same time-they are or they aren't.

Do you even know what "if" means? People without jobs aren't looking for pension plans, they're looking for work. If they find jobs, then they'll consider pension options.

One before the other...that shouldn't have been difficult to follow.
 

taxslave

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A passport from Canada costs $85 or more from the US or Bermuda, for a document that is only good for 5 years. This cost is way out of line, compared to other countries.

Can anyone explain just WHY the fees are so high?

It costs that much to renue my drivers license every 5 years plus a medical exam that our so called free medical does not pay for so whats the big deal.

I am consistent in my statement I said if they could find a job they wouldn't mind
paying for a passport. Of course if they had a job they would have money and
they would no longer be poor would they?

Not necessarily. Working full time at a Mcjob will just qualify you as working poor instead of just poor.
 

DaSleeper

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It costs that much to renue my drivers license every 5 years plus a medical exam that our so called free medical does not pay for so whats the big deal.



Not necessarily. Working full time at a Mcjob will just qualify you as working poor instead of just poor.

The medical exam is free

What you pay for is the doctor filling out the form...(time is money);-)