Harper warns Americans he will ship oil elsewhere

[Goober]

What does the CBC have to do with this thread?

Both have a ditinct culture shall we say - and it was humor. Now laugh.

 

[mentalfloss]

I am sure you are aware that Quebec has lots of Shale Gas - Enough for 50-100 years. That is cleaner than any oil. But they are and should study the impact on water sources etc.
New Technologies are a long ways off. Look at Ontario and what you are paying for electricity - look at the projected cost 5 and 10 years forwards. Premier dad's foray into a deal that costs billions in elec bills. 80C per Kilowatt for wind - Job killers.

There are two problems with their approach:

1.) Relying on private industry
2.) Too much change, too soon

Well, when you spoke of hypocrisy and political oppression, I naturally thought you were referring to the CBC.

If you pray to Santa Clause, he may just drop in with a nice gift for you.

(ah what the hell...)

 

[captain morgan]

There are two problems with their approach:

These 2 problems are a helluva lot less than the hundreds associated with public utilities

1.) Relying on private industry

Yep.. Why everyone knows how effective the gvt is when it comes to innovation, technological advancement and responsibility.

2.) Too much change, too soon

Isn't that what you've been pinning for all these years?.. An eco-utopia wherein all live in peace and hormony with Gaia?

If you pray to Santa Clause, he may just drop in with a nice gift for you.

Suzuki is working the 'Save Santa and the North Pole' angle pretty aggressively.. I'm guessing that he is praying to Santa that the public at large might take notice of him once more.

 

[mentalfloss]

Jeez cap'n. You've got some pretty pent up rage.

I created a catharsis thread for you and your ilk.

 

[captain morgan]

Jeez cap'n. You've got some pretty pent up rage.

I created a catharsis thread for you and your ilk.

Rage?... Hell MF, rebutting your commentary is a wonderful experience that, in the purest form, is almost Zen-like... I can't possibly explain to you the immense satisfaction that one gets by handing you the brush and a gallon or 2 of paint and observe the fun in watching you paint yourself into a corner time after time.

By the way; this catharsis thread you speak of; is that code for the propaganda sub-forum that RCS mentioned yesterday?

 

[petros]

Slave labour in China is inhumane, regardless of the industry.

There is more slave labour in US Prisons than in China and more people in US prisons than in Chinese prisons because prisons are an industry.

That makes oil look like were exporting some sort of fancy pancake syrup by pipe.

 

[Tonington]

Harper is confused. He's the Prime Minister of Canada, not the CEO of an oil producing corporation...the oil companies will ship their oil wherever they can find buyers, and however they can for the cheapest cost. It's not Harper's choice where their oil goes.

Merry Christmas CPC supporters! lol

Maybe he should announce some kind of National Energy Program if he wants that kind of control...

 

[DaSleeper]

By the way; this catharsis thread you speak of; is that code for the propaganda sub-forum that RCS mentioned yesterday?

Tsk tsk Skipper....he hasn't started an anti Harper thread or other greenie GW thread in 24 hrs;-)......Give him a break...:lol:

 

[CDNBear]

A huge huge portion of CDN oil isn't even labeled yet.

That's not true, I label all my oil.

 

[SLM]

There is more slave labour in US Prisons than in China and more people in US prisons than in Chinese prisons because prisons are an industry.

Not denying that prisons are industry in the U.S., they definitely are, but the population difference could also be because the Chinese have a tendency to execute a lot of their prisoners. Just sayin'.

That's not true, I label all my oil.

Get a label maker for christmas last year?

 

[Goober]

Harper is confused. He's the Prime Minister of Canada, not the CEO of an oil producing corporation...the oil companies will ship their oil wherever they can find buyers, and however they can for the cheapest cost. It's not Harper's choice where their oil goes.

Merry Christmas CPC supporters! lol

Maybe he should announce some kind of National Energy Program if he wants that kind of control...

Kinda dumb economics to import oil in the East when we have it in the West - Damm straight it should be used - an energy policy - Do you have any idea of the revenue that can be gained or lost. And also AB, BC, Sask are paying the bills on equalization.

Think of how many doctors, universities Profs, teachers that pays for just in PEI - along with a host of other uses

 

[petros]

Harper is confused. He's the Prime Minister of Canada, not the CEO of an oil producing corporation...the oil companies will ship their oil wherever they can find buyers, and however they can for the cheapest cost. It's not Harper's choice where their oil goes.

Merry Christmas CPC supporters! lol

Maybe he should announce some kind of National Energy Program if he wants that kind of control...

Canada is a Corporation by Jesus and oil is most definetly one of our products.

 

[taxslave]

100 years? Try 500 or more.

Only 5% of SK's oil has been explored and tapped. That big yellow area is alllll oil.

And that is not counting the potential reserves off the west coast that Ottawa will not let us explore in case BC has Ideas of leaving confederation and taking our port facilities and equalization payments with us.

What a buffoon Harper is. He should be worrying about developing a refining industry in Canada and shipping finished product to markets instead of establishing Canada in permanent colonial status as a supplier of raw materials to the U.S. I mean what a stupid, weak little fart we have as Prime Minister.. a real disgrace. He has surrounded himself enough fellow quislings and failed Canadians.. that no one seems to be able to present a viable response to him. I'm still hopeful the Old PC nationalists will finally kick this fool into the dustbin of history before he totally dismantles the Canadian nation state.

SO explain to us why in all the years of Liberal rule none of this was done but now it is all Harpers fault.

 

[petros]

And that is not counting the potential reserves off the west coast that Ottawa will not let us explore in case BC has Ideas of leaving confederation and taking our port facilities and equalization payments with us.

Don't worry. BC's offshore gas will come in real handy for smelting and co-gen electricty in short time.

 

[Tonington]

Kinda dumb economics to import oil in the East when we have it in the West

Well there's no pipeline. Besides, oil is a global commodity. Alberta has no shortage of buyers of the rights. Oil is infra-marginal, excess capacity will be bought. A corporation selling it's product to another corporation isn't dumb. That's what they do. That's who buys and sells oil and petroleum.

- Damm straight it should be used - an energy policy - Do you have any idea of the revenue that can be gained or lost. And also AB, BC, Sask are paying the bills on equalization.

Think of how many doctors, universities Profs, teachers that pays for just in PEI - along with a host of other uses

It was kind of a joke. I had said merry Christmas to CPC supporters, because Harper is just throwing them a bone. He has no authority to tell oil companies whom to sell their oil to. It's pure political pandering. That's why I went next to suggesting a national energy policy...because conservatives in the West will foam at the mouth over any such plan that would nationalize oil, lol. But strangely Harper is talking as if he had these broad influences over domestic production and marketing of oil in Canada.

:lol:

 

[petros]

Oil is already part nationalized. Look into what employee pensions, union pensions, CPP, EI, WDF, Action Plan is invested into and /or funding socially. It's oil. It's nuclear. It's coal, it's nickel, it's iron, it's gold, it's copper, it's aluminum, it's gas, it's human capital like student loans and everything under the sun is part owned by you and me. We own lots.

 

[Goober]

Well there's no pipeline. Besides, oil is a global commodity. Alberta has no shortage of buyers of the rights. Oil is infra-marginal, excess capacity will be bought. A corporation selling it's product to another corporation isn't dumb. That's what they do. That's who buys and sells oil and petroleum.

It was kind of a joke. I had said merry Christmas to CPC supporters, because Harper is just throwing them a bone. He has no authority to tell oil companies whom to sell their oil to. It's pure political pandering. That's why I went next to suggesting a national energy policy...because conservatives in the West will foam at the mouth over any such plan that would nationalize oil, lol. But strangely Harper is talking as if he had these broad influences over domestic production and marketing of oil in Canada.

:lol:

Correct he cannot - But Pipelines fall under the Feds. Were you aware of that? Enough oil to ship both East and West.

 

[petros]

Alberta has no shortage of buyers of the rights. Oil is infra-marginal,
excess capacity will be bought. A corporation selling it's product to another
corporation isn't dumb. That's what they do. That's who buys and sells oil and
petroleum.

Leases. It's all about leases.

 

[Goober]

Leases. It's all about leases.

And they can place a ton of restrictions on them - Upgrade the product to fully refine it.

 

[petros]

Sometimes it only makes them worth more the longer they sit unproductive.

Keep an eye on this one Goobs. Oilsands Quest Extends Creditor Protection; Reduces Size of Board of Directors