Freedom of Speech to be Returned!!!

In Between Man

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Good luck. I suspect you'll be about as successful as you were proving that other thing you falsely claimed in this thread. Apology accepted, by the way.

Admittedly you do think hate speech should be protected, but you still haven't claimed an absolute, inalienable standard for your freedom of speech. When someone denies your freedom of speech, how do you know that it is wrong? What standard are you comparing the denial to? John Stuart Mill's opinion? (Answer: You know it's wrong for you speech to be denied because you're comparing the denial to the absolute moral standard God put inside of you).

Until you can claim the absolute, inalienable standard for your freedom of speech, IMO you do not believe in freedom of speech in a truly objective sense.

You're pretty close though! You obviously believe in freedom of speech, just not an untouchable standard. If John Stuart Mill, you, and everyone else in the world says freedom of speech is deserved, well, who cares? Those are just opinions, and opinions don't determine what is right and wrong!

See you tomorrow! :)
 
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Corduroy

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Not so fast, I haven't apologized. That's because you still haven't claimed an absolute, inalienable standard for your freedom of speech.

At the beginning of this thread you were clearly attempting to make me out as a hypocrite. This opinion was based on your own ignorance. You were unaware of my positions on free speech, but you attempted to disparage me for them anyway. You've come in here, without any knowledge whatsoever of my opinions, bent on showing that I don't support free speech. That is both intellectually lazy and dishonest. You failed to prove your accusations. You even resisted calls to prove it. And now that I've shown you were wrong, which I didn't have to do, you refused to admit you were wrong. Instead you've invented some extra criteria. Demanding I provide an inalienable standard for free speech. Again, lazy and dishonest.

I don't have to prove a ****ing thing to you. Especially not after your behaviour. Show me you have some integrity, admit to and apologize for your failings here, pray to your god to forgive your dishonesty, and then I'll give you the philosophical argument you're asking for.
 

taxslave

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Admittedly you do think hate speech should be protected, but you still haven't claimed an absolute, inalienable standard for your freedom of speech. When someone denies your freedom of speech, how do you know that it is wrong? What standard are you comparing the denial to? John Stuart Mill's opinion? (Answer: You know it's wrong for you speech to be denied because you're comparing the denial to the absolute moral standard God put inside of you).

Until you can claim the absolute, inalienable standard for your freedom of speech, IMO you do not believe in freedom of speech in a truly objective sense.

You're pretty close though! You obviously believe in freedom of speech, just not an untouchable standard. If John Stuart Mill, you, and everyone else in the world says freedom of speech is deserved, well, who cares? Those are just opinions, and opinions don't determine what is right and wrong!

See you tomorrow! :)
How can moral standards come from god when god is just as figment of some peoples over active imagination?
 

Tonington

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How can moral standards come from god when god is just as figment of some peoples over active imagination?

The wheels of the illogical bus go round and round, round and round, round and round. The wheels of the illogical bus go round and round, all day long.

Don't bother jumping on the bus...it's a horrible loop of appeal to authority and circular reasoning. No matter where you jump off.
 

SLM

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The wheels of the illogical bus go round and round, round and round, round and round. The wheels of the illogical bus go round and round, all day long.

Don't bother jumping on the bus...it's a horrible loop of appeal to authority and circular reasoning. No matter where you jump off.

And the illogical wipers go "swish swish swish"?

Thanks guys, now I'll have that song stuck in my head all day. I'll owe you both one for that! (Revenge will be sweet :))
 

gore0bsessed

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What's this Ezra dork talking about, jesus christ this guy has the I.Q of a chimp born through incest.
Trudeau was the greatest P.M in Canadian history bar none, this Ezra dork just whines a lot about not having the freedom to offend people.

Meanwhile this dork is the first to sue if someone were to mark slanderous remarks about him through any media outlet. Yet he wants the freedom to do the same to Muslims. F this guy!
 

Corduroy

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What's this Ezra dork talking about, jesus christ this guy has the I.Q of a chimp born through incest.
Trudeau was the greatest P.M in Canadian history bar none, this Ezra dork just whines a lot about not having the freedom to offend people.

Meanwhile this dork is the first to sue if someone were to mark slanderous remarks about him through any media outlet. Yet he wants the freedom to do the same to Muslims. F this guy!

I hate it when people say something so stupid you can't be sure if they're joking.