Minnesota boy, fed up with parents' pot, helps spur bust

Cliffy

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I smoked for many years when I was younger and never once in front of my kids. I had a heated workshop with cable TV for that or went for a walk etc etc...

That said putting the kid in the middle of a parental dispute is just wrong!
It would seem that most divorces end up with using the kids as weapons against each other. That is why I recommend that parents let their children raise them. It might help them grow up (the parents that is).
 

gerryh

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What I'm seeing here, for the most part, is that the kid should have just sucked it up and not said anything. That's crap. Regardless of what your personal opinion on pot is, the fact is that pot is illegal, and a child should not have to subjected to it. Period.

I hear people bitching about second hand smoke and children, but it appears from this thread that second hand Pot smoke is perfectly fine.
 

karrie

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Alcohol is a drug and advertised on TV and drank openly in the home with kids in full view .

The difference is that me drinking it doesn't get it into their lungs. It's not an issue of a drug being used, it's the issue of him being made to live in the cloud of that drug. How can you not see that?

I have plenty of friends who smoke pot. None would dream of doing it in a manner in which a child would need to complain about the haze.
 

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Hard to believe the parents didn't have the good sense to exercise a bit of discretion. Must have seemed like a good idea when they were stoned.

Hindsight, especially when your head is up your ass, is often 20/20.
 

petros

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The difference is that me drinking it doesn't get it into their lungs. It's not an issue of a drug being used, it's the issue of him being made to live in the cloud of that drug. How can you not see that?

I have plenty of friends who smoke pot. None would dream of doing it in a manner in which a child would need to complain about the haze.
Well then parents should all be busted for the use of the drug nicotine in their homes.
 

karrie

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Well then parents should all be busted for the use of the drug nicotine in their homes.

I agree. The debate about making it illegal to smoke in confined spaces with children present has been raging for a long time.
 

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Well then parents should all be busted for the use of the drug nicotine in their homes.

When marijuana is endorsed and sold on the open market your complaint will have merit. And I agree that smoking cigarettes around your kids is moronic, as is smoking pot around your kids, as is masturbating, 69ing, anal sex, and watching Celine Dion.
 

petros

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It takes an open market to make it okay?

The father used his kid, that is the real issue and that is abuse.

I agree. The debate about making it illegal to smoke in confined spaces with children present has been raging for a long time.
We expose our kids and expose ourselve to carcinogens in the home just by cooking a steak.
 

karrie

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It takes an open market to make it okay?

The father used his kid, that is the real issue and that is abuse.

We expose our kids and expose ourselve to carcinogens in the home just by cooking a steak.

Necessary cooking by-products versus unnecessary drugs. Sorry petros but you're grasping at straws here even when takling to someone who is pro-legalization.
 

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What I'm seeing here, for the most part, is that the kid should have just sucked it up and not said anything. That's crap. Regardless of what your personal opinion on pot is, the fact is that pot is illegal, and a child should not have to subjected to it. Period.

I hear people bitching about second hand smoke and children, but it appears from this thread that second hand Pot smoke is perfectly fine.

The child has a right to a marijuana free environment. But marijuana doesn't necessarily make someone a bad parent. Its in the same class of drugs as alcohol and tobacco. An easy solution is that the parents should have to smoke outside. But another part of this is using your child to get back at your ex. I agree with Petros... this child will regret his actions when he gets older and understands more fully the consequences of his actions.
 

Cliffy

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It takes an open market to make it okay?

The father used his kid, that is the real issue and that is abuse.

We expose our kids and expose ourselve to carcinogens in the home just by cooking a steak.
Hell, our life style requires that we polute the hell out of our environment, indoors and outdoors. We expose our kids to all kinds of deadly stuff from the day they are born. Picking on one substance seems a little hypocritical. And I agree, the real problem is using the kid to get back at the wife but said wife is an ass for not listening to her kid. Whatcha gonna do? I think all the adults involved here need a good caning.
 

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HASTINGS, Minn. — An 11-year-old boy who said he was fed up with marijuana smoke in his house took pictures of the drug which led to a raid by authorities and sent his mother and stepfather to jail in Dakota County......

Oh, I bet he'll be pretty popular in college/university. Nobody will invite him to any parties or fraternities.

Hell, if he'll rat on his own mother, that says a lot. :lol:

The difference is that me drinking it doesn't get it into their lungs.

True, but it's not unheard of that a whiskey bottle will get into a kids head when thrown. :twisted:

It's not an issue of a drug being used, it's the issue of him being made to live in the cloud of that drug. How can you not see that?

On a serious side, I see clearly what you're saying and if someone (parent) wants to smoke up, do it somewhere else.

I have plenty of friends who smoke pot. None would dream of doing it in a manner in which a child would need to complain about the haze.

Agreed.
 

karrie

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The father used his kid, that is the real issue and that is abuse.
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I've been mulling over what bugged me so badly about this statement, and I can finally put my finger on it....

There's no such thing in parenting as 'one is right and one is wrong'. Just because he was wrong to walk his kid through doing this, doesn't excuse the fact that she was making her kid live in pot smoke. To assume there's always a right and a wrong is to fall into one of the biggest traps families can succumb to.
 

gerryh

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Kids in school are taught to say NO to drugs.

The kid and his Father did the right thing. The kid was being subjected to an illegal substance. THAT is child abuse. The Mother refused to do anything about it. THAT is child abuse. Period. There is no grey area here. Pot is an illegal substance. Unless, of course, you all are advocating that we teach our kids that you obey some laws but not others, and it is up to the individual to determine which laws they need to follow and which laws they don`t.
 

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What a great idea dad. Use your kid to get back at your ex.

Now I think the biological Dad should be prepared to take the son under his roof, as I doubt with Step daddy and mum, pie and ice cream will be regular fare for dessert.

It takes an open market to make it okay?

The father used his kid, that is the real issue and that is abuse.

We expose our kids and expose ourselve to carcinogens in the home just by cooking a steak.

Hey Petros, you'v had a long day at it, some of your brain cells are flagging and could use a nap. :lol:
 

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The way this was reported locally was that the kid genuinely was disgusted and was not put up to it by his dad. The mother said MJ was used for medical purposes but state law prohibits this so that this argument won't wash in court. We'll see what happens next.