Welfare People Who Want To Work Go To Alberta

[petros]

I buy specialty valves from italy, modules from Korea and instrumentation from the US, or who ever provides the lowest price. I do it the same as everybody else does in the energy business..

So you don't want to be able to bid on nationalize foreign owned and operated refineries, upgraders, pipelines, pumping station etc and they should cut you out completely and supply their own?

It's big world Durry and only some of the world has money and it's not us. All we have is resources.

 

[Durry]

All we have is resources.

Oh, speak for your self Petros.
In AB we have very bright and hard working talented people, we have the resources and the money to do almost anything that makes economic sense. We can take anybody on and comptete !!!
It's just too bad we have to use a lot of this money supporting the easterners!!!

 

[petros]

Oh, speak for your self Petros.
In AB we have very bright and hard working talented people, we have the resources and the money to do almost anything that makes economic sense. We can take anybody on and comptete !!!
It's just too bad we have to use a lot of this money supporting the easterners!!!

Wakie wakie, hands off snakie! What money? Aren't you in debt like all the other Provinces and the Feds?

 

[Kakato]

But when AB is removed from the picture by a nationalized foreign company whose best interests is to self-supply then Canadians or established foreigner suppliers operating in Canada are out of the picture. I know I'd trust a Canadian, American. German, Swede, japanese, S. Korean etc valve keeping my community from being blown to bits or dieing in a H2S venting incident thanks to cheap, piss poor quality. How about you?

Well if it cant pass specs it wont be installed period.And the patch works through contacts and the best in the patch in Alberta are Albertans and share info.
As a pipeline inspector I would get fined if I signed off on a pipe or anything that wasnt to specs before it was buried.
And Albertas oil patch is very well established,the roc doesnt hear much about it because they dont need to know,we learned from the NEP to not say anything to the feds a long time ago.

Plus Encanna will run your ass off any site if you did say anything. The ROC is on a need to know basis,and they really dont need to know what's happening in Alberta.

 

[petros]

Most people who claim to have worked for Encana can spell it right.

 

[Kakato]

So you don't want to be able to bid on nationalize foreign owned and operated refineries, upgraders, pipelines, pumping station etc and they should cut you out completely and supply their own?

It's big world Durry and only some of the world has money and it's not us. All we have is resources.

Give me a break,it's cheaper to buy all that from the states and you know it.
Stick to drilling rock Petros,The peeps building the oilsands have billions of dollars and all the metal that has to come here to develop them and all the infrastructure will come from whoever can supply them.
You have no idea how big these operations are,it will take people from all over the world just to develop them.
There isnt enough ships to haul all the **** they want to from overseas,there isnt enough trucks in all North America to haul the loads needed to get these projects onstream.
Unless you have been to fort mac you have no idea what is happening there,you wont see it on the daily news,We dont want you to.
The oilsands have a bad enough rep from crazy environuts so most folks have no idea what go's on at the oilsands because they dont need to know.

 

[captain morgan]

Wakie wakie, hands off snakie! What money? Aren't you in debt like all the other Provinces and the Feds?

Deficit and debt are 2 different things... But just for sh*ts and giggles, what are the respective provincial debts outstanding?

I'm guessing that I shouldn't really expect a response to that question.

 

[Kakato]

Most people who claim to have worked for Encana can spell it right.

Well I dont like them so couldnt care less but ya,Resdin inspectors in cold lake weapons range.
Stick to drilling rock petro's.
That's your field,this is mine.

 

[petros]

Deficit and debt are 2 different things... But just for sh*ts and giggles, what are the respective provincial debts outstanding?

I'm guessing that I shouldn't really expect a response to that question.

Debt is a lack of money. If you have money what's the point of going into debt?

 

[captain morgan]

Debt is a lack of money. If you have money what's the point of going into debt?

Correction, debt is sourcing money to satisfy a need for the cash... And there are a variety of reasons that people, corps and gvts use debt financing as an alternative.

 

[petros]

Well I dont like them so couldnt care less but ya,Resdin inspectors in cold lake weapons range.
Stick to drilling rock petro's.
That's your field,this is mine.

Your feild is sitting atop a dozer being told by smart people where to push dirt and you maybe good at it but bull****ting isn't your forte.

Correction, debt is sourcing money to satisfy a need for the cash... And there are a variety of reasons that people, corps and gvts use debt financing as an alternative.

Either you have it or you don't. When you don't have it but need it you do what? Go in debt?

 

[captain morgan]

Either you have it or you don't. When you don't have it but need it you do what? Go in debt?

Ah... Yeah.

 

[Kakato]

Your feild is sitting atop a dozer being told by smart people where to push dirt and you maybe good at it but bull****ting isn't your forte.

Actually I have my own numbered company and work as a consultant in the energy industry as well as work for the power company building structures as a prefferred contractor,I hold every single certificate and ticket you can get,Im a camp manager in many Arctic exploration camps and hold a supervisors ticket for that also.
I could get you blackballed anywhere in B.C. or Alberta in the blink of an eye in the mining industry.
I didnt pay ten grand to get my company started to deal with small players like you bud.
You know nothing about oil and gas,nothing.

 

[petros]

And an engineering degree too eh?

 

[Kakato]

And an engineering degree too eh?

With 35 years experience,I dont need one.
Sorry if it's hard for you to understand as you probably held the same job for the last 30 years.I branched out and im very good at what I do.

Let me know when the KIA grants you an award for reclamation in the Arctic.Then you might be on the same playing field as I.

 

[petros]

Nooooo they hire dozer jockies all the ****ing time as jr inspectors and completly ignore the degree required. Yup goes on every ****ing day.

 

[Kakato]

Nooooo they hire dozer jockies all the ****ing time as jr inspectors and completly ignore the degree required. Yup goes on every ****ing day.

None of the inspectors mentoring me had degrees either,you dont need one for a field inspector,just experience and Resdin is one of the biggest and best in Alberta,35 years experience trumps a degree any day in the patch but you dont work in the patch so I forgive you for being ignorant.
Only our chief inspector was an engineer,you should stick to hard rock drilling petros,seems thats all you have done all your life.
Stick to stuff you know,like when I schooled you on blasting,you didnt even know the differance between a det cap and a booster.You also dont need a degree to be a blaster.

 

[Tonington]

You haven't schooled me on anything d...o.

Yeah, because that would require you to be capable of learning something...you claimed Alberta has never received transfer payments. False. You still are. Even if you meant Equalization payments. False. Alberta received them from 1957 to 1964.

That's simple facts, but your ideology apparently makes you impervious to reality, hence your inability to learn.

 

[JLM]

Yeah, because that would require you to be capable of learning something...you claimed Alberta has never received transfer payments. False. You still are. Even if you meant Equalization payments. False. Alberta received them from 1957 to 1964.

That's simple facts, but your ideology apparently makes you impervious to reality, hence your inability to learn.

Is something that happened 50 years ago, REALLY worth trying to get a Donnybrook happening? :lol:

 

[TenPenny]

Funny how the Ontario manufacturing sector never jumped on the chance to take some of the niche when the auto industry went for a crap.We still buy lots of things from the states that could be made here.
Even the big Aluminum power line structures we use on the big lines comes from Texas.
The oilsands alone could keep Ontario steel mills and forges busy as hell.
They do build a lot of rigs in Nisku though.
Stimulus money in Alberta is mostly in infrastructure like water lines to all rural communites,one of the pipeline contractors I used to work for made about 50 million the last 3 years doing only 10 inch water mains all over Alberta.

Don't worry; one of our local shipyards in NS is building the tailings water reclaim barge for Kearl Lake.

We're not all stupid easterners, you know.