Welfare People Who Want To Work Go To Alberta

Kakato

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There is no place on the planet that wasn't impacted by the contributions of others, but all that is simply academic.

Let's hear about the fair and equitable treatment of the West by the East. You can start with the NEP and regale us with your version of how this was a real favour and boon to the economy.
More Alberta,less Ottawa.
"You often hear people outside the province talking about Alberta's wealth and defining it in terms of luck, saying, 'Anyone can be successful in Alberta, any government can be successful in Alberta.'
"I think what irritates Alberta is there's no recognition of the energy that's going into this, the entrepreneurial spirit, the tough times we've had in this province. That's where I think Albertans are looking for a greater respect."
60 per cent of Albertans want more respect: poll - Canada - CBC News


Were like the Rodney Dangerfields of Canada....We get no respect!
 

petros

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I suppose that you'd have to ask Trudeau?
Why should I ask Trudeau why living people in Ottawa are selling our resources lock stock and barrel to nationalized foreign oil and resource companies for one time payment no royalties?

What do you think he'd say? "I told you so you bunch of dumb ****s"?
 

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Why should I ask Trudeau why living people in Ottawa are selling our resources lock stock and barrel to nationalized oil and resource companies for one time payment no royalties?


Cuz they can! And when the money's gone, they can blame the other party, already having split the loot, and retired with full pension etc.
 

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Wow... Really tremendous response as to why Canada's labour and mfg sectors can't compete

I've said before why they can't compete, with specific reference to Germany's economy...But progressive taxation isn't socialist...socialism means something specific, not just any government policy that someone doesn't like.
 

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Why should I ask Trudeau why living people in Ottawa are selling our resources lock stock and barrel to nationalized foreign oil and resource companies for one time payment no royalties?

What do you think he'd say? "I told you so you bunch of dumb ****s"?


What would Trudeau possibly say?... I'm sure that he'd say something incredibly retarded akin to his idea of NEP or funding a gvt run loser (for decades I might add) like PertoCanada.

By the way, in terms of the incorrect assertion that no royalties are paid, ya might want to look into that before you make that same mistake twice.

I've said before why they can't compete, with specific reference to Germany's economy...But progressive taxation isn't socialist...socialism means something specific, not just any government policy that someone doesn't like.


Ya, whatever,

Do you have anything relevant to contribute on the issue or do you just want to play the role of school marm?
 

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Ya, whatever,

Do you have anything relevant to contribute

Yeah, I schooled Durry already about equalization and transfers. Your post was also good for taxslave to see a real socialist suggestion. Though I don't know if they care to learn anything at all or not. Meh.
 

Kakato

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I like the SNL skit with Blue oyster Cult better but thats pretty good!

Gene Frenkle: I'm standing here, staring at rock legend Bruce Dickinson!

Bruce Dickinson: The cock of the walk, baby!

Gene Frenkle: And if Bruce Dickinson wants more cowbell, we should probably give him more cowbell!

Bruce Dickinson: Say it, baby!

Gene Frenkle: And, Bobby, you are right - I am being selfish. But the last time I checked, we don't have a whole lot of songs that feature the cowbell.

Bruce Dickinson: I gotta have more cowbell, baby!

Gene Frenkle: And I'd be doing myself a disservice -- [begins to slightly laugh. Jimmy Fallon turns away and bites down on his drumstick to keep from laughing] and every member of this band, if I didn’t perform the HELL out of this!

Bruce Dickinson: Guess what? I got a fever! And the only prescription.. is more cowbell!
 

petros

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What would Trudeau possibly say?... I'm sure that he'd say something incredibly retarded akin to his idea of NEP or funding a gvt run loser (for decades I might add) like PertoCanada.

By the way, in terms of the incorrect assertion that no royalties are paid, ya might want to look into that before you make that same mistake twice.
Open market upgraded or direct raw exports to China? Would you prefer Canadian made drills, heavy equipment, trucks, tires, forges, steel and all the other goodies involved including skilled labour used to supply the Canadian oil patch our do you prefer they bring in their own people and their own supply lines? It's not tlike they are new to oil extraction or processing and guess what they don't live in straw huts either.

Yeah, I schooled Durry already about equalization and transfers. Your post was also good for taxslave to see a real socialist suggestion. Though I don't know if they care to learn anything at all or not. Meh.
Speaking ofd socialism. Those Socialist Stimulus projects are in full swing in AB. You can't swing a dead wildcat without hitting one.
 

Kakato

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Open market upgraded or direct raw exports to China? Would you prefer Canadian made drills, heavy equipment, trucks, tires, forges, steel and all the other goodies involved including skilled labour used to supply the Canadian oil patch our do you prefer they bring in their own people and their own supply lines? It's not tlike they are new to oil extraction or processing and guess what they don't live in straw huts either.

Funny how the Ontario manufacturing sector never jumped on the chance to take some of the niche when the auto industry went for a crap.We still buy lots of things from the states that could be made here.
Even the big Aluminum power line structures we use on the big lines comes from Texas.
The oilsands alone could keep Ontario steel mills and forges busy as hell.
They do build a lot of rigs in Nisku though.
Stimulus money in Alberta is mostly in infrastructure like water lines to all rural communites,one of the pipeline contractors I used to work for made about 50 million the last 3 years doing only 10 inch water mains all over Alberta.
 

petros

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Ontario forges already do heavily supply the Canadian oil patch and sands. Majority of valves, elbows, spooled lengths, blinds etc are ON made but now they'll have to compete even more or be ignored by foreign resource owners.
 

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Yeah, I schooled Durry already about equalization and transfers. Your post was also good for taxslave to see a real socialist suggestion. Though I don't know if they care to learn anything at all or not. Meh.
You haven't schooled me on anything d...o. Don't try to take credit for something your not entitled too.
I know you like doing this because because that's all you folks out east can do, talk talk and more talk. How about some action to get off the dole...eh !!
We have been paying your bills for so long now, you now think we are supposed to keep paying your bills for you all the time!!

Oh, and don't worry about AB, it is very capable to look after itself. I know your worried about AB, because they pay your bills for you... But, look at it this way, if you could only muster up enough entellegence to be to pay your own bills, you would not have to rely on AB.... Just give it a try....eh?? It's really not that difficult with the use of a little brain power, although I know it's a little short down east...

FYI, here's what Ont & Quebec got in equalization payments. The AB taxpayer is the largest contributor to this welfare fund...

Growing equalization payments to Ontario threaten country: expert | News | National Post

e ON made but now they'll have to compete even more or be ignored by foreign resource owners.
Aahhhh geeeee, you mean they'll have to compete??? That's not very good, is it???? We can't have that, that means they might have to give up their spa breaks !!!!

Well, we'll just have to change that. How about the Feds intoduce an import tax,,, you know,,,, just like they do with the auto imports!!! That should ensure they can keep their jobs and still keep their spa breaks!!!!

Problem solved !!!!
 

petros

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We have been paying your bills for so long now, you now think we are supposed to keep paying your bills for you all the time!!
Why does AB need Socialist Stimulus money?

Aahhhh geeeee, you mean they'll have to compete??? That's not very good, is it???? We can't have that, that means they might have to give up their spa breaks !!!
Yup compete. Just like now but right now they can still bid on tenders. Should a foreign State owned owned and operated business ignore Canadian suppliers or any other established supply company operating in Canada to ensure the economy and jobs of the people in the oil biz supply in their country? Yes or no?
 

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Should a foreign State owned owned and operated business ignore Canadian suppliers or any other established supply company operating in Canada to ensure the economy and jobs of the people in the oil biz supply in their country? Yes or no?
Hey, Petros, your talking AB here, we are a free and democratic economy!!! We do not scratch people's backs.... Lowest cost supplier/contractor that's meets the spec's,,,gets the job,,,,always !!!!
Never has changed in all my yrs in the patch.. How can I tell your a corrupt socialist ????
 

petros

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Hey, Petros, your talking AB here, we are a free and democratic economy!!! We do not scratch people's backs.... Lowest cost supplier/contractor that's meets the spec's,,,gets the job,,,,always !!!!
Never has changed in all my yrs in the patch.. How can I tell your a corrupt socialist ????
But when AB is removed from the picture by a nationalized foreign company whose best interests is to self-supply then Canadians or established foreigner suppliers operating in Canada are out of the picture. I know I'd trust a Canadian, American. German, Swede, japanese, S. Korean etc valve keeping my community from being blown to bits or dieing in a H2S venting incident thanks to cheap, piss poor quality. How about you?
 

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Yeah, I schooled Durry already about equalization and transfers. Your post was also good for taxslave to see a real socialist suggestion. Though I don't know if they care to learn anything at all or not. Meh.


Yawn... You still here?

I understand that you know all about the attitudes of Albertans and the memories/hardships they experienced - afterall, you did work in AB for one or 2 summers didn't ya.

Thanks for the input, really, but stop wasting my time... OK?

Open market upgraded or direct raw exports to China? Would you prefer Canadian made drills, heavy equipment, trucks, tires, forges, steel and all the other goodies involved including skilled labour used to supply the Canadian oil patch our do you prefer they bring in their own people and their own supply lines? It's not tlike they are new to oil extraction or processing and guess what they don't live in straw huts either.

Does Canada charge a royalty on ever drill mfgd in Canada?

I never would have thunk it!

Why does AB need Socialist Stimulus money?

We don't... Fact is, the conditions tied to that money stipulates the we 'buy Canadian'.

All of that cash heads due East and lands in Ontario and Quebec where the money was intended.
 

Durry

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But when AB is removed from the picture by a nationalized foreign company whose best interests is to self-supply then Canadians or established foreigner suppliers operating in Canada are out of the picture. I know I'd trust a Canadian, American. German, Swede, japanese, S. Korean etc valve keeping my community from being blown to bits or dieing in a H2S venting incident thanks to cheap, piss poor quality. How about you?
Petros, you have been living a very very sheltered life in SK. You really gotta get out more and see how the world operates. In spite of what your SK gov friends tell you, it is one big world now!!

You see Petros, the oil price is set by the world markets. So, that means all refineries/facitilties have to also compete for market share, profits and shareholders.
It's one big world now Petros, it's nothing like it used to be in SK at one time..

I buy specialty valves from italy, modules from Korea and instrumentation from the US, or who ever provides the lowest price. I do it the same as everybody else does in the energy business..