The Hague Asked To investigate the Catholic Church
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I hope that no one in your family is in the teaching profession... Considering that there has been some criminal cases that involve teachers and pedophilia, according to Goober, all those that have ever taught in the past and teach in the present are pedophiles... No exceptions.
Maybe Goober can lobby to have all Universities omit any curriculum that seeks to train teachers - it'd be nothing more than a school to instruct future pedophiles by seasoned and experienced pedophiles.
No institution I can think of in the modern world should be left to its own devices to investigate crimes within its ranks. That's a pretty simple fact. Couch it in insults of cultism or slanders against the members of said institution all you want, it's a pretty universal issue, from the army investigating its own potential war crimes, the government reviewing its own role in residential schools, to the RCMP investigating its own killings.
So, why single out and denigrate one group when it should be a pretty universal truth? That's where you'll run into accusations of bigotry.
So, why single out and denigrate one group when it should be a pretty universal truth? That's where you'll run into accusations of bigotry.
Me, can't carry a tune in a bucket - That is why I listen and give credit to those that can play a single or a variety of instruments.
My neighbor cannot sing - Plays Ok - They have a few family get togethers and the guitars come out,some beers as well, playing the music i grew up with.
And i love that.
If the people took the wheel investigating institutions and corporations there will be those who complain about the costs and that issue seems to trump justice day in and day out.
I pay taxes to fund the RCMP already. They should be investigating cases of child abuse, and the institution should be held liable if found aiding in the flight or sheltering of a wanted criminal. Seize diocesan property until a trial can be held in the courts I already pay for. As for investigating other institutions, it's all case dependent but for the most part we already pay for oversight. The end message should always be the same though... hiding criminals within your ranks so that your institution doesn't look bad is unacceptable practice.
Do you get what you pay for right now or would it cost more to meet the basics first before tackling massive institutions and corps?
What's the alternative when it comes to tangible victim crimes... abuse, molestation, murder?
Charge the people known to have instigated crimes rather than a blanket investigation of an institution? What about emotional abuse? Should we investifgate the entire entertainment industry for ****ing with people's emotions?
I never said anything about a blanket investigation... what I did say is that if an institution is found to be aiding or harbouring someone, their assets should be seized until a trial can be held, in other words, until they help cough up the accused.
Not a blanket seizure. Seize the priests' residences of the diocese, for example. Institutions should be held accountable in a way that makes sense to the institution, when they are actively impeding an investigation.
You can't seize what the Priest doesn't own. They aren't Pastors who get cut a monthly cheque or own their houses.
One thing you seem to be ignoring is that the Church's hierarchy, by in some cases refusing to cooperate with civil authorities and removing priests from the jurrisdictions where incidents have occurred, has also made itself cuplable under many of our legal codes: interfering with an investigation is a crime, and so is covering up other criminal activities. The Church has made itself complicit through its own actions.
Many of our governments do not recognize any church, be it the Roman Catholic, the Anglican, the United, the Mormons or any other denomination, as holding any legal power to get involved in criminal matters, thus these governments do have a legitimate grievance, and one they could act on fairly simply: remove the tax exempt status of any religious institution or body that does interfere in these cases. Unfortunately, there needs to be political will to do this and I highly doubt there would be. If something like this were to come to pass, Vatican City would become the only place safe for these priests (and non-Catholics wouldn't even have that refuge).
Sieze what the institution owns, as I've said, diocesan land/housing, etc., when the institution is impeding an investigation. honestly, that will clear up all of these issues really quickly. While a diocese may be willing to move a priest around to protect itself from scandal, it won't be willing to when it knows it own holdings could be put at risk. Right now they face no real risk.
Yesterday I signed a juicy contract after spending two days dealing with Govt geeks, board members and stockholders. Not one lick of my environmental assement submitted was review by any govt agency. They took it at face value because the govt can't afford to double check the paperwork God forbid ever send an inspector out to see for themselves.
When people are willing to buck up for oversight of an institution or corp in all facets of their operration then maybe, just maybe there will be fairness across the board. There used to be such a system known as the Soviet Union. How did that work out?