The Hague Asked To investigate the Catholic Church
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When will an 'offending' school board get bankrupted in paying these penalties? I haven't heard of one yet.
Me either because they are a govt of local elected on municipal ballot. It makes perfect sense to close your schools on your own kids.
Well, the question is:
Is a young boy or girl that is sexually abused in a school setting somehow less important or less traumatizing such that a different set of less punitive rules be applied?
The same municipal run cops can arrest a teacher but they can insure themselves for such liabilities yet still do funky staff shuffles where a Church can't carry such liability insurance.
I changed the date to 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Have never denied that the Church has been guilty of doing exactly that in the past.
Do you think that this is still an ongoing problem within the RCC. Meaning the RCC is still covering this up and I refer to after 2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by Goober
Do you think that this is still an ongoing problem within the RCC. Meaning the RCC is still covering this up and I refer to after 2011.
Completely off topic. You want to discuss that, bring it to the proper thread or start one.
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Amen amen amen Kinder Part Kumbaya my Lord - YouTube
Problem with morals - They are guilty so I am not so guilty.
Do not ever talk to me or any poster about morals again. Yours are fuked.
I'll talk to whomever I want about what ever I want. You don't want to see what I have to say, then put me on ignore.
Neither am I, and I have never condoned it, but You, obviously, haven't been around when these discussions were had in the past and I'm not about to have them again with you.
Like I said, I will back this investigation when they are not one sided.
But you condone not investigating it, because of a perceived bias? While you still fund the Church that evades any investigation? Dodges any culpability? And still hides alleged criminals?
Ya, there's a great moral idea/position...:roll:
I thought you didn't believe in the erroneous premise that two wrongs make a right?
The whole of the US is guilty of child molestation?
So you are waiting for the 2nd coming. Biased - Really - How is it biased based upon decades of Church condoning and hiding freaks. Proven time and again in courts of law in many Democracies.
‘Underlying systemic issues’ need to be dealt with in abuse scandal, nun says | Holy Post | National Post
When Sister Nuala Kenny addresses a conference this weekend, which is meeting at McGill University to explore the sexual-abuse crisis in the Catholic Church, her message will be stark and even a bit frightening.
No matter what has been done so far to deal with the crisis, no matter how many new protocols are now in place, it is still not enough, she will tell those in attendance. The fundamental question of how a systemic breakdown came to pass throughout the worldwide Church, she said, has not been answered, let alone properly asked.
“What kind of people are we? How could bishops, priests and lay people allow it to go on as long as we did: the denial, the minimization, the secrecy and even the ostracization of whistle-blowers?
“For a people called to goodness and holiness, with a particular call in the Christian understanding of the protection of the marginalized and vulnerable, how could we have responded the way we did?”
In September 2009 Sr. Kenny was driving to her convent in Nova Scotia when a news flash came on the radio about Raymond Lahey, then the Bishop of Antigonish.
Bishop Lahey had been in the news in the months previously because of a historic and compassionate settlement he had reached with victims of clerical abuse in his diocese. For a short time he was considered an enlightened hero — someone who practised justice instead of deflection.
Sr. Kenny said the Church has done excellent work in attempting to solve the myriad issues that came together to create the crisis. The Church has improved the education of priests and the laity about abuse, adopted stringent protocols for reporting allegations to civil authorities and made clear that there is zero tolerance for the abuse of children.
“We didn’t believe children who told us they were being abused. And this was not just the fault of priests and bishops, but of the laity who were also complicit.
“I’m so frustrated by those Catholics who say, ‘Oh my God, Nuala, you’re not talking about that again.’ But by not talking about it from start to finish is part of why the problem went on as long as it did. How can anyone be tired talking crimes committed against our young people?
“Whatever the protocols and policies focus on, if we don’t get to the underlying systemic issues the problem will once again rear its ugly little head in another form.”
When Sister Nuala Kenny addresses a conference this weekend, which is meeting at McGill University to explore the sexual-abuse crisis in the Catholic Church, her message will be stark and even a bit frightening.
No matter what has been done so far to deal with the crisis, no matter how many new protocols are now in place, it is still not enough, she will tell those in attendance. The fundamental question of how a systemic breakdown came to pass throughout the worldwide Church, she said, has not been answered, let alone properly asked.
“What kind of people are we? How could bishops, priests and lay people allow it to go on as long as we did: the denial, the minimization, the secrecy and even the ostracization of whistle-blowers?
“For a people called to goodness and holiness, with a particular call in the Christian understanding of the protection of the marginalized and vulnerable, how could we have responded the way we did?”
In September 2009 Sr. Kenny was driving to her convent in Nova Scotia when a news flash came on the radio about Raymond Lahey, then the Bishop of Antigonish.
Bishop Lahey had been in the news in the months previously because of a historic and compassionate settlement he had reached with victims of clerical abuse in his diocese. For a short time he was considered an enlightened hero — someone who practised justice instead of deflection.
Sr. Kenny said the Church has done excellent work in attempting to solve the myriad issues that came together to create the crisis. The Church has improved the education of priests and the laity about abuse, adopted stringent protocols for reporting allegations to civil authorities and made clear that there is zero tolerance for the abuse of children.
“We didn’t believe children who told us they were being abused. And this was not just the fault of priests and bishops, but of the laity who were also complicit.
“I’m so frustrated by those Catholics who say, ‘Oh my God, Nuala, you’re not talking about that again.’ But by not talking about it from start to finish is part of why the problem went on as long as it did. How can anyone be tired talking crimes committed against our young people?
“Whatever the protocols and policies focus on, if we don’t get to the underlying systemic issues the problem will once again rear its ugly little head in another form.”