NATO nations set to reap spoils of Libya war
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Never did. It is nothing but a propaganda line , a catch phrase posed to a nation and the world in order to incite wars for reasons where terrorism is but a small part .
The phrase is the ultimate in stupid abuse of language. How can one war on terror?? think about it. what is terror?? It is an emotion in response to a percieved threat. To be terrified in such circumstances is normal.
One cannot 'war" on that. One cannot war on terrorism either. How the hell can one militarily slaughter the ideology of terrorism??
the phrase came from a man with limited language skills and even fewer cells in the brain dept. So what happens? The population drinks it up like the controlled / brainwashed robots they can be.
But still managed to pull off the biggest black op, 9/11, in history?
What population? Who drank what up?
right, you can't militarily fight and destroy terrorism. that's stupid and defies any logic.
to truly defeat terrorism you would have to eliminate oppression and imperialistic aggression.
I always sorta thought of fighting panic like take a downer. Now gangsters, on the other hand....
Leaked: UN’s Plan for Post-Gadhafi Libya
NATO 'Mandate' to Continue Beyond Regime's Fall
by Jason Ditz, August 29, 2011 Leaked: UN’s Plan for Post-Gadhafi Libya -- News from Antiwar.com
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A new leaked document today reveals the United Nations’ vision for and preparations toward the inevitable post-Gadhafi Libya, complete with plans for foreign “military observers” and UN-run elections.
The UN plan also insists that the UN Security Council “mandate” that NATO used as a pretext for war isn’t going to actually end with the fall of the Gadhafi regime, and that the UN considers NATO to have an open-ended mandate to do whatever it wants to “protect civilians” going forward
Leaked: UN’s Plan for Post-Gadhafi Libya -- News from Antiwar.com
......amazing how they phrase their plans and decisions so as to be vague enough to almost sound reasonable and favoring the Libyan people. when other motives are in play.
an aside: but one does wonder how these politicians can live with themselves.
NATO 'Mandate' to Continue Beyond Regime's Fall
by Jason Ditz, August 29, 2011 Leaked: UN’s Plan for Post-Gadhafi Libya -- News from Antiwar.com
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A new leaked document today reveals the United Nations’ vision for and preparations toward the inevitable post-Gadhafi Libya, complete with plans for foreign “military observers” and UN-run elections.
Leaked: UN’s Plan for Post-Gadhafi Libya -- News from Antiwar.com
......amazing how they phrase their plans and decisions so as to be vague enough to almost sound reasonable and favoring the Libyan people. when other motives are in play.
an aside: but one does wonder how these politicians can live with themselves.
Doesn't it make sense to be sure the rebels really ARE the good guys?
I mean ... ya don't get to be a rebel without bending some rules....
Not sure UN, in its present form, has balls enough to do the job, though. The Cold Was is supposed to be over. Sort of makes sense to me to solidify and dump Veto....
I mean ... ya don't get to be a rebel without bending some rules....
Not sure UN, in its present form, has balls enough to do the job, though. The Cold Was is supposed to be over. Sort of makes sense to me to solidify and dump Veto....
furthermore, the only thing it accomplishes by trying to fight terrorism militarily only exacerbates the situation. creates more tension and leads to more terrorism (see 9/11).
Colpy's Lockerie buddy who was cut loose by Scot Corrections officials is in Libya and alQaeda won't allow extradition. HAHAHAHAHA
Doesn't it make sense to be sure the rebels really ARE the good guys
Who is going to do this and under what right?? How is this to be done without appearing biased or prejudiced???
If there was a walk through scan to indicate "good guy" and "bad guy".....;-)
Who is going to do this and under what right?? How is this to be done without appearing biased or prejudiced???
If there was a walk through scan to indicate "good guy" and "bad guy".....;-)
You are absolutely RIGHT. War against "terrorism" is not even possible. Only a brain dead prez would make that statement. Terrorism is an ideology. a destructive one...........usually based on some built up resentment and motivated by fanatics of various persuasions.
Dealing with terrorism militarily only angers the ones who already have an issue with the US and its policies......and motivates them to turn to vengence .
a terrorist act is an act of vengence. It has little to do with 'hating the US life styles etc " and same brain dead prez indicated and the sheeple bought into.
Most of these are not even familiar with US lifestyle or understand it's freedoms. What they do understand and SEE.....is how the US has treated many on the planet for decades.
This has been a build up of anger, resentment HURT over many years.
but most of the kool aid drinking sheeple refuse to give this any thought and understand how things to that bad......and simply prefer the USG version of things........which is simplistic and inaccurate. But it so much easier to fall in goose step mindset and follow the party line from the govt.
when a govt wants firmer control over its people .......no matter how subtle.....all it has to do is have a fear policy . And then say that anyone who questions the issues and events and the Gov't decisions......is being "un patriotic". And that , folks is how the govt has the sheeple by the short hairs. Not only that.......the true "believers" call their fellow citizens un patriotic for THINKING and ASKING questions.......as if the gov't statement is the word of their gods.
A fascinating dynamic has evolved in the last decade. And yes......bush has left an indelible mark. Those that follow the bush doctrine and believe in aggressive . militant responses to what is a crime......do not stop and think ......as all they want is revenge. And a cycle of violence is born.
the reality is that terrorism of all kinds has been a part of the human behavior since man started walking upright. AND it will contine long after all of the current population has fossilized. How we handle it is what matters.
How can it be prevented?? Not sure it can......not fully as there will always be folks that feel resentful for one reason or another. BUT.......the more educated the west becomes about the east and its culture the wiser it will be. Gradually .....the East will get more aware of the west as a people , through education , travel , exposure ....etc.
Currently we are in the midst of so much dynamic change , people are standing up for their version of freedom and rights. ( not follow the wests..........as it should be) and are defining their own uniqueness.
One thing is certain.............the west better not gloat about "helping " change the various regions it is involved in......as that just make the west look like the idiot it can be.
sorry for being so verbose.........but your fine post prompted a lot of thoughts that I have had for some time.
No... You OBSERVE - something like the UN's mandate was supposed to be. Good or bad, they show their hands around the time the honeymoon's over. Life doesn't flip as fast and easy as enter and exit buttons make it appear.
Too bad you skipped over the rest of the post....
...cherrypicker
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze
Doesn't it make sense to be sure the rebels really ARE the good guys
How come I knew right from day one?
How come I knew right from day one?
WHO observes?? And HOW, WHERE etc??*** foolish name caller.
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze
Doesn't it make sense to be sure the rebels really ARE the good guys
How come I knew right from day one?
LOL...........you had inside info?? an inside track???;-):lol:
who are you kidding. After so many years and major historical events.........we have learned almost noth;ing and keep repeating the same mistakes over and over .....hoping for a different result. ( and that dear sleeper, is called insanity)
History repeats itself._ unfortunately. Mankind is not the bightest learner from experience.
Well I sure in Hell hope it isn't you....
Does scrollback not work in your world? Even your thing said UN.
Foolish namecaller.... Cherrypick is exactly what you did - which would make you a cherrypicker (among other adjectives)