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AbtFet

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LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

OBJECTIVE LINKS!!!!!

I'm not sure I've ever seen you post a link...........

:)

You are a troll.

You don't see the links I posted, probably because you scroll past them and ignore them completely because they destroy whatever weak argument you can construct.
You haven't provided any real objective sources, I've seen mainly Israeli propaganda links on your end.
The non-bias sources you did provide (the interview with Finkelstein) did more to support my argument than it did yours.
 

CDNBear

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You don't see the links I posted, probably because you scroll past them and ignore them completely because they destroy whatever weak argument you can construct.
You unsubstantiated, untraceable Op/Ed oriented YouTube links, and plagiarized wiki quotes are not fact.
You haven't provided any real objective sources, I've seen mainly Israeli propaganda links on your end.
So then why can't you disprove the material? Instead of dismiss the site without merit.
 

Colpy

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You don't see the links I posted, probably because you scroll past them and ignore them completely because they destroy whatever weak argument you can construct.
You haven't provided any real objective sources, I've seen mainly Israeli propaganda links on your end.
The non-bias sources you did provide (the interview with Finkelstein) did more to support my argument than it did yours.

Sooooo.....the Interior Minister of Hamas is an Israeli propagandist.....

You are a very funny man.

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AbtFet

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Considering the fact that Hamas receives funding from nations like Syria and Iran and of course funnels money raised for the Palestinians by rich Arab Sheiks one would ask, "Why is it that they are not targeting the occupying Israeli force instead of purposely sending suicide bombers into markets where civilians are always killed?

The old "We have to deliver our bombs with our hands because we are but poor settlers." just isn't cutting it anymore. It might have worked back in the days of Black September, but this malarky just doesn't quite make the grade.

If the Palestinians and subsequently Hamas want to gain a sympathetic ear from the rest of the world they should change their modus operandi and stop deliberately killing civilians in their fight for freedom.

If they could do that, they might gain a bit more support and be proactive in ending the senseless bloodshed.

Okay I'm finished. I will now introduce to you the: "YEAH WELL ISRAEL KILLS CIVILIANS TOO!" crowd.

I don't know about the Hamas suicide bombers killing innocent civilians, however with all the disregard shown from Israel for Palestinian civilians maybe they're returning the favour?
Israel is completely against peace. When there was a ceasefire it wasn't Hamas that broke it, it was Israel.

Israel breaks Gaza ceasefire, assassinates six | The Electronic Intifada




‪CNN Confirms Israel Broke Ceasefire First‬‏ - YouTube
 

CDNBear

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I don't know about the Hamas suicide bombers killing innocent civilians, however with all the disregard shown from Israel for Palestinian civilians maybe they're returning the favour?
We are already well aware of the fact that you condone the murder of innocent women and children. So long as they're Joo's I guess.

Israel is completely against peace. When there was a ceasefire it wasn't Hamas that broke it, it was Israel.
So when I post a dozen videos from CNN, where Palestinian aggression, Hamas treachery and homicide, the real death toll of Cast Lead, and the legality of the blockade, are shown, you won't challenge the link?
 

CDNBear

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Which of course flies in the face of what Hamas says themselves. Old Finky ignores the tunnels (An invasion and act of war) that even Hamas acknowledged, lol.

I really loved this part...

Chief negotiator Saeb Erekat called the leaked documents "a pack of lies". In an interview with Egyptian editors late Sunday in Cairo, where he is holding talks with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas said, "I don't know from where Al-Jazeera came with secret things. There is nothing we hide from our brothers, the Arabs.''

So who's lying?

You say Hamas is honest.

Good article from Finkelstein and wikileaks shows that Palestinians have made every concession to broker a peace deal to no avail .
Do you vet your links at all?
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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I don't know about the Hamas suicide bombers killing innocent civilians, however with all the disregard shown from Israel for Palestinian civilians maybe they're returning the favour?
Israel is completely against peace. When there was a ceasefire it wasn't Hamas that broke it, it was Israel.

Israel breaks Gaza ceasefire, assassinates six | The Electronic Intifada




‪CNN Confirms Israel Broke Ceasefire First‬‏ - YouTube

Wow Durka is right. You are an extremist.
 

mentalfloss

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I don't understand why people are mobbing up on AbtFet and throwing out the one-liner insults instead of justly refuting his arguments.

As someone who is not well-versed on this debate, it isn't convincing at all when you have to sift through a page full of slanderous ad hominems.
 

Colpy

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I don't understand why people are mobbing up on AbtFet and throwing out the one-liner insults instead of justly refuting his arguments.

As someone who is not well-versed on this debate, it isn't convincing at all when you have to sift through a page full of slanderous ad hominems.

I try to avoid same, but AbFet goes out of his way to be ignorant, discounting excellent sources, refusing to debate every carefully built up argument, while supplying absolutely no support to his own erroneous and ridiculous arguments.

He is almost invariably wrong, and irritatingly smug in his ignorance.

That attracts the sharks.
 

mentalfloss

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I try to avoid same, but AbFet goes out of his way to be ignorant, discounting excellent sources, refusing to debate every carefully built up argument, while supplying absolutely no support to his own erroneous and ridiculous arguments.

He is almost invariably wrong, and irritatingly smug in his ignorance.

That attracts the sharks.

Sharks are agile but they don't wield pitchforks.
 

petros

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Sharks are agile but they don't wield pitchforks.
 

Goober

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I don't understand why people are mobbing up on AbtFet and throwing out the one-liner insults instead of justly refuting his arguments.

As someone who is not well-versed on this debate, it isn't convincing at all when you have to sift through a page full of slanderous ad hominems.

So how long would you interact with a fool - an hour - a day - then what -
 

AbtFet

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Wow Durka is right. You are an extremist.

What is extremist about that?

I try to avoid same, but AbFet goes out of his way to be ignorant, discounting excellent sources, refusing to debate every carefully built up argument, while supplying absolutely no support to his own erroneous and ridiculous arguments.

He is almost invariably wrong, and irritatingly smug in his ignorance.

That attracts the sharks.

Excellent sources? You have yet to provide even a decent source nevermind excellent.
I certainly am not going out of my way to be ignorant, nor am I acting smug. As well I've supported any argument I made, so you're blatantly lying.
This is just an all around ridiculous post and I'm irritated by the lack of quality this discussion has come to, mainly as a result of you and fellow trolls cdnbear and dasleeper.