Obama - What is your opinion so far on his Presidency

BaalsTears

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It is has been reported that today the wealth gap is greater than at any time since the 1920s. It was that gap that caused the Great Depression and today's Great Recession. Simply use the same strategy to take back the wealth that has been stolen and the USA will be fine again.

You aren't talking about taxing incomes. You are referring to the seizure of assets. That's what dictators do in banana republics.

Truly wealthy people aren't going to allow the federal govt. to seize any portion of their assets. Capital will flee. That leaves only the middle class to milk and eat.
 

JLM

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I guess that explains why the forum right wingers keep coming up with threads like this:

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/us-american-politics/100613-clinton-could-have-done-something.html




It is has been reported that today the wealth gap is greater than at any time since the 1920s. It was that gap that caused the Great Depression and today's Great Recession. Simply use the same strategy to take back the wealth that has been stolen and the USA will be fine again.

Not surprising as the rich get more and more while the poor remain near zero! :lol:
 

ironsides

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President Obama ordered the cabinet to cut $100 million from the $3.5 trillion
federal budget.

I'm so impressed by this sacrifice that I have decided to do the same thing
with my personal budget. I spend about $2000 a month on groceries, household
expenses, medicine, utilities, etc, but it's time to get out the budget
cutting axe, go through my expenses, and cut back.

I'm going to cut my spending at exactly the same ratio, I'm going to cut my spending at exactly the same ratio, 1/35,000 of my total
Budget. After doing the math, it looks like instead of spending $2000 a
month; I'm going to have to cut that number by...
six cents
. Yes, I'm going
to have to get by with $1999.94, but that's what sacrifice is all about.
I'll just have to do without some things, that are, frankly, luxuries.



 
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ironsides

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Yet the miserable good for nothing still smiles.

"In the wake of Friday's woeful jobs numbers, President Obama acknowledged that "we still have a long way to go and a lot of work to do" before the economy is working for Americans again.
"The economy as a whole just isn't producing nearly enough jobs for everybody who's looking," Obama said in prepared comments in the White House Rose Garden. He cited "tough headwinds" that are exerting a drag on the economy, including natural disasters, high gas prices, economic turmoil in Europe, and state and local government budget cuts."

Obama:
 

petros

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President Obama acknowledged that "we still have a long way to go and a lot
of work to do" before the economy is working for Americans again. "The economy as a
whole just isn't producing nearly enough jobs for everybody who's looking,"

Ya think? Nearly 1/3 with no jobs.

Send people here. We have a 4.3% unemployment rate. Judging by customer service around the Province they'll even hire dead people.

Hell even Obama could get a real job in SK.
 

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You can't forget about the comment on "job-ready" - he stated that he thought that the Job-ready jobs weren't quite as job-ready as he thought and then and others at the news conference laughed about it! Yeah, really funny Mr. Pres. who has never held a "real job" in his life!

JMO

You can't forget about the comment on "job-ready" - he stated that he thought that the Job-ready jobs weren't quite as job-ready as he thought and then and others at the news conference laughed about it! Yeah, really funny Mr. Pres. who has never held a "real job" in his life!

JMO

oops - that should read he and others at the news conference laughed. (my bad)
 

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You can't forget about the comment on "job-ready" - he stated that he thought that the Job-ready jobs weren't quite as job-ready as he thought and then and others at the news conference laughed about it! Yeah, really funny Mr. Pres. who has never held a "real job" in his life!

JMO



oops - that should read he and others at the news conference laughed. (my bad)


Ahhhh... do you mean all "shovel ready" projects that weren't as shovel ready as he thought? Classic Obama


YouTube - ‪Obama Shovel ready jobs from Huckabee.mov‬‏



But then....


YouTube - ‪Obama: Shovel Ready jobs not shovel ready‬‏
 

JLM

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We hear a lot about these "shovel ready" jobs, but I'm wondering before those can be filled there may be lots of jobs building shovels. :lol:
 

YukonJack

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"Obama - What is your opinion so far on his Presidency"

Unemployment rate when he assumed office was less than the 9.2% today.

One must admit that He is doing the best he can.
 

ironsides

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The above show the unemployment rate for the past 10 years. The rate was acceptable till he and his Liberal friends took office.

With NASA shutting down, there will be 9,000+ jobs lost and most of them in Florida. Those engineers will be looking for works and the only ones hiring right now are China and Russia. We know most of them will not be working at Walmarks.
 

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The above show the unemployment rate for the past 10 years. The rate was acceptable till he and his Liberal friends took office.

With NASA shutting down, there will be 9,000+ jobs lost and most of them in Florida. Those engineers will be looking for works and the only ones hiring right now are China and Russia. We know most of them will not be working at Walmarks.

It appears that Obama is willing to make cuts to sacred cows but the Repubs want no taxes on high incomes. Really - Cuts for the poor and leave the wealth alone - Obama is winning this PR war. As that is what it is - Positioning and PR. But he appears will to cut spending, cut sacred cows and close loopholes for the wealthy - Now who do you think will take the rap on a supposed default.
 

ironsides

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Sorry the graph dissapeared. If the rich paid their fare share it would do nothing to change anything. Absolutely nothing except make the other 40% or so who pay taxes feel better. Over 40% of Americans do not pay any Federal taxes through what ever exemptions they claim. I would like to see everyone over 21 years old pay a fair tax, say 15% over $20,000, no exemptions. Exact number can be worked out, but get pretty much everyone paying something.
 

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On the news this evening, the US is being compared to Greece in terms of financial problems ... in fact, it's suggested that the US will surpass Greece as the biggest financial mess. I think this is a problem that was mostly inherited by Obama, but I don't think anyone will remember that when the election roles around.
 

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Sorry the graph dissapeared. If the rich paid their fare share it would do nothing to change anything. Absolutely nothing except make the other 40% or so who pay taxes feel better. Over 40% of Americans do not pay any Federal taxes through what ever exemptions they claim. I would like to see everyone over 21 years old pay a fair tax, say 15% over $20,000, no exemptions. Exact number can be worked out, but get pretty much everyone paying something.

We have a Prov flat tax in AB - Guess what - Those over 100 k and higher really benefit from the flat tax. Flat tax does not work.

On the news this evening, the US is being compared to Greece in terms of financial problems ... in fact, it's suggested that the US will surpass Greece as the biggest financial mess. I think this is a problem that was mostly inherited by Obama, but I don't think anyone will remember that when the election roles around.

That comparison is BS - Check the debt ratios first - Greece has been a basket case for decades - and they kept borrowing -
In Greece people panic when a chopper flys overhead - why - because they photograph those with pools and then go after them for taxes. approx 1 in 6 work for the govt - taxes paid honestly are under the 35 % mark - why - corruption - pay someone off.
 

Ariadne

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We have a Prov flat tax in AB - Guess what - Those over 100 k and higher really benefit from the flat tax. Flat tax does not work.

That's true ... the middle earners always pay the most. As soon as someone moves into the $60k bracket, taxes bring them back to when they were in the $40k bracket and so on. In the $200k bracket, it's very comfortable (except when it comes to child support).
 

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The above show the unemployment rate for the past 10 years. The rate was acceptable till he and his Liberal friends took office.

With NASA shutting down, there will be 9,000+ jobs lost and most of them in Florida. Those engineers will be looking for works and the only ones hiring right now are China and Russia. We know most of them will not be working at Walmarks.

What? You have no high-tech private sector?

Who cares if they move abroad, unless of course they are of some social benefit to the US? Here's the thing, the argument that they are so useful to the US economy because they pay so much in taxes holds water only if their salaries themselves are not directly or indirectly supported by taxes. After all, if the government is largely responsible for nearly 100% of your salary and then you pay even as much as 50% of it back in taxes, it's still a net loss for the US.

Now, if they can find other productive jobs in the private sector or education and such, then I can see the point. In the private sector though, the government need not worry sinse the private secor is paying their salaries anyway, the government simply benefiting from the tax revenue. And if they go into education, then sure the government is paying their salaries, but is also getting something back by way of investment.

Or, if you absolutely insist they stay in the country, how about you establish a Department of International Trade and Industry (DITI). Each taxpayer would pay 15% of his income directly to it, would get to vote for its board of directors which would determine its research and development objectives, and would collectively own all knowledge accquired by it. One possibility would be that each US resident would be granted access to its official website, whereas non-residents would not (so in principle companies that hire US residents would have indirect access to this knowledge via their workers, thus potentially making US residents more valuable in the labour market). This way you can be sure that only US residents would benefit from this knowledge. Also, since all research nationwide would be conducted under one umbrella, it would ensure efficiency by avoiding redundancy in research and development initiatives (for example, since Ford and Toyota workers residing in the US would all be pitching into the same fund, they could benefit collectively from its research, thus avoiding separate research establishments simply doing the sme research).

And if you want to increase efficiency still further by eliminating the potential for redundant research between the US and other countries, then yo could always arrange for the US, Canada and other countries to share a common such department, or alternatively separate departments, but with each sharing all knowledge, meaning that in principle any resident of any of these countries would have access to all the knwoeldge of all the other participating countries. To ensure it's fair of course, in each country residents would have to pay the same precentage of their income to it.

On the news this evening, the US is being compared to Greece in terms of financial problems ... in fact, it's suggested that the US will surpass Greece as the biggest financial mess. I think this is a problem that was mostly inherited by Obama, but I don't think anyone will remember that when the election roles around.

It may have been inherited by Obama for the most part, but he hasn't done much to change the siuation either. At the very least, he could have aimed to leave the country in no worse shape than he'd inherited it. Had that been the case, I may have been able to forgive him not having improved the situation seeing that he had inherited the recession too to be fair. But at worst he coudl have at least planned on leaving the country the way he'd found it.
 

Ariadne

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That comparison is BS - Check the debt ratios first - Greece has been a basket case for decades - and they kept borrowing -
In Greece people panic when a chopper flys overhead - why - because they photograph those with pools and then go after them for taxes. approx 1 in 6 work for the govt - taxes paid honestly are under the 35 % mark - why - corruption - pay someone off.

I saw that report about $15,000 application fees to build a pool, corruption and ... well, there's also the laziness factor with early retirement and extensive vacation time for everyone. I don't know what's going on in the US with finances except that the pyramid banking/real estate scheme put the country into a downward financial spiral that they're still trying to climb out of.