Abortion demonstration just doesn't sound right.

petros

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in that case the baby isn't unwanted.
Noooooooo. once they have they they don't let go. Do you have any idea how many gals decide to keep the child after going full term in order to give the child up for adoption?

He slipped and fell into her.......
No doubt. He couldn't even come up with rubbers for his shoes let alone for an accidental sex act.
 

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The guy accidentally stuck his penis inside her and came? Slid down a hill and kablam....instant sex act?

That is one complex accident.


it's an extremely stupid accident if you have no intentions of having a child yet use no contraception, but i still say it's an accident ...

Noooooooo. once they have they they don't let go. Do you have any idea how many gals decide to keep the child after going full term in order to give the child up for adoption?

I think this is that fantasy world crap TenPenny was referring to
 

petros

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it's an extremely stupid accident if you have no intentions of having a child yet use no contraception, but i still say it's an accident ...



I think this is that fantasy world crap TenPenny was referring to
It's no accident when you put you penis inside a woman and ejaculate. That is 100% intentional. There is only one way to make a baby and none of it is by accident.
 

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No it's not irresponsible, it's more responsible. If you don't want the baby, do NOT have it! Because otherwise, you're forcing an unwanted child into a world that may have to sit through terrible foster homes, a child that may have depression or other psychological problems as a result of feeling unwanted by his biological parents , a child that could potentially turn to crime.. it's all detrimental if we try to force unwanted babies into society.

Baloney

I know, I know.....crime rates in the USA were greatly reduced by abortion....but gee whiz, they would also be greatly reduced by surrounding the inner cities of the larger US cities and setting them afire, shooting anyone that tries to flee........

Somehow, I don't think you would find that acceptable. I hope not, anyway.

The point being, to one that believes in the sanctity of life in the womb, how much worse is it to oversee the murder of their babies????

As a moral argument, your position is extremely untenable.
 

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No it's not irresponsible, it's more responsible. If you don't want the baby, do NOT have it! Because otherwise, you're forcing an unwanted child into a world that may have to sit through terrible foster homes, a child that may have depression or other psychological problems as a result of feeling unwanted by his biological parents , a child that could potentially turn to crime.. it's all detrimental if we try to force unwanted babies into society.


How is killing the baby more responsible? How is deciding to have sex, knowing the possibility of getting pregnant, and then killing the baby more responsible? I'm having a real problem understanding how killing is the more responsible act. What I see killing as, is the cowards way out. The irresponsible way out. The selfish way out. Not wanting to take ownership for your own actions or the consequences of those actions. That's what abortion is all about. You're not doing the child any favours by killing it.
 

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As per usual, the abortion debate is getting a little heated. I thin I'll bow out of this one for a while. But I will just say this. Though I am pro-life (and yes, even in cases of rape), I also believe in quality compulsory education for all, and a right to work for all. And I also believe that before we waste public money on things like the CBC, official bilingualism, and wars abroad, that we ought to focus instead on the well-being of the people. I realise for some here that still doesn't make up for my pro-life stance.

But like I said, this will likely be my last comment on the subject in this thread.

As per usual, the abortion debate is getting a little heated. I thin I'll bow out of this one for a while. But I will just say this. Though I am pro-life (and yes, even in cases of rape), I also believe in quality compulsory education for all, and a right to work for all. And I also believe that before we waste public money on things like the CBC, official bilingualism, and wars abroad, that we ought to focus instead on the well-being of the people. I realise for some here that still doesn't make up for my pro-life stance.

But like I said, this will likely be my last comment on the subject in this thread.

Oh and I'll add this, in the case of a rapist, I'd put him into prison labour possibly for life.
 

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As per usual, the abortion debate is getting a little heated. I thin I'll bow out of this one for a while. But I will just say this. Though I am pro-life (and yes, even in cases of rape), I also believe in quality compulsory education for all, and a right to work for all. And I also believe that before we waste public money on things like the CBC, official bilingualism, and wars abroad, that we ought to focus instead on the well-being of the people. I realise for some here that still doesn't make up for my pro-life stance.

But like I said, this will likely be my last comment on the subject in this thread.


Yeah, I don't blame you....I usually avoid this subject like the plague, simply because it is nearly impossible to find middle ground.......
 

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I know, I know.....crime rates in the USA were greatly reduced by abortion....

Interesting tidbit that supports my argument, thank you for that.

but gee whiz, they would also be greatly reduced by surrounding the inner cities of the larger US cities and setting them afire, shooting anyone that tries to flee........

Doesn't sound like that would reduce crime at all, just create chaos and a ****load of angry people. .. Basically what Izrael is doing to the Palestinians, no crime reduction there.


The point being, to one that believes in the sanctity of life in the womb, how much worse is it to oversee the murder of their babies????

As a moral argument, your position is extremely untenable.

It's a moral obligation not to bring in unwanted babies, as you pointed out abortions have reduced crime... How could anyone want this earth flooded with unwanted babies and have the audacity to say I'm immoral?
 

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Interesting tidbit that supports my argument, thank you for that.



Doesn't sound like that would reduce crime at all, just create chaos and a ****load of angry people. .. Basically what Izrael is doing to the Palestinians, no crime reduction there.




It's a moral obligation not to bring in unwanted babies, as you pointed out abortions have reduced crime... How could anyone want this earth flooded with unwanted babies and have the audacity to say I'm immoral?

There are options.....the most obvious being adoption.
 

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As per usual, the abortion debate is getting a little heated. I thin I'll bow out of this one for a while. But I will just say this. Though I am pro-life (and yes, even in cases of rape), I also believe in quality compulsory education for all, and a right to work for all. And I also believe that before we waste public money on things like the CBC, official bilingualism, and wars abroad, that we ought to focus instead on the well-being of the people. I realise for some here that still doesn't make up for my pro-life stance.

But like I said, this will likely be my last comment on the subject in this thread.



Oh and I'll add this, in the case of a rapist, I'd put him into prison labour possibly for life.



again, you aren't pro-life, you're anti-abortion.
 

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How is killing the baby more responsible? How is deciding to have sex, knowing the possibility of getting pregnant, and then killing the baby more responsible? I'm having a real problem understanding how killing is the more responsible act. What I see killing as, is the cowards way out. The irresponsible way out. The selfish way out. Not wanting to take ownership for your own actions or the consequences of those actions. That's what abortion is all about. You're not doing the child any favours by killing it.


Think of how absolutely moronic the parents are if they're having sex without any contraception but don't want a child... I don't think you want these type of people raising children ....
 

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Think of how absolutely moronic the parents are if they're having sex without any contraception but don't want a child... I don't think you want these type of people raising children ....


I don't want to see people raising children that have such little regard for them that they can kill them even before they are born. Kill them when they are the least "intrusive" on ones life. Ones that are so selfish that all they can think about is themselves.
 

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There are options.....the most obvious being adoption.
I mentioned to him to maybe look into how many women who think they will give the baby up decide to be a mother to the child instead.

I don't know how to put into words how instant the change is when you first look at your little amazing creation. It's the wildest and most amazing emotional ride I've ever been on.
 

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if abortion wasn't allowed these foster homes would be flooded so ridiculously over capacity, worse than prisons in America.
 

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That response was directed to PoliticalNick, specifically for his use of the word 'touchy', in response to me.
If you say so.

You don't know enough people.

So that's your excuse for accusing him of beating his wife and raping his kids?

Weak.

I'll correct that right now. As soon as you post something intelligent, I'll give you one too.

The thumbs up was for making me laugh at the last sentence......I needed that;-)